Author Topic: Mechanical Keyboards (Read 38548 times)

wraith808 · « **on:** March 30, 2016, 01:56 PM »

Is anyone else overly interested in mechanical keyboards and buying/modding/making them?

I discovered that there was a difference quite by accident. I've been using a logitech k811 to connect to my laptop while it's docked and still have the keyboard in front of me- just in case multiplicity isn't responding, or I don't want to switch screens (gaming and such). I realized that the size felt better to me, after typing on it for a prolonged period. And I never took the time to program my Orion Spark or indeed, any of my massive keyboards before it. Nor did I really care about the lighting patterns.

I was going to begin with the infinity 60% on massdrop, but got cold feet, and instead started with a Poker 3 (MX Brown). Shortly after that, I ordered a Poker 3 (MX Clear) for work, and haven't looked back! I just got a Qisan 68-key (MX Brown) to replace that k811, and it's working great. Still haven't decided if that's better than using the function layers to get to the additional keys. Now I'm looking at trying a planck or preonic keyboard- but those have to have the switches soldered, and my soldering days were long ago, and not sure if I want to get to that point. I'm also negotiating for a Race2 on Reddit.

If you're interested, and not already in on it, the best communities I've found are at deskthority and geekhack and reddit (mk and mechmarket). I've bought all of my goodies from massdrop and amazon, though I did delve a bit into AliExpress and Store Uni.

Anyone else caught this particular bug?

mrHappy · « **Reply #1 on:** March 31, 2016, 12:21 AM »

Luckily have not caught that bug, as such.
Have the same old filco tkl for years, and finally payed enough attention to actually get in a groupbuy (round 5) on deskthority so I'm set, at least until round 7 unless I'm not interested in those keys.

Only board I'm still interested in is a 60% iso, for which I unfortunately still would have to buy keys for since no one makes a DK version.

wraith808 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 31, 2016, 12:07 PM »

Luckily have not caught that bug, as such.
Have the same old filco tkl for years, and finally payed enough attention to actually get in a groupbuy (round 5) on deskthority so I'm set, at least until round 7 unless I'm not interested in those keys.

Only board I'm still interested in is a 60% iso, for which I unfortunately still would have to buy keys for since no one makes a DK version.
-mrHappy (March 31, 2016, 12:21 AM)

How do the 'rounds' work on Deskthority? I surmise that they're group buys, and the ones left over are from the minimum production run and cancellations, but I haven't actually seen it spelled out.

mrHappy · « **Reply #3 on:** March 31, 2016, 01:08 PM »

basically that, at least that is also how I understand it.
It's definitely worth keeping an eye open and get in before the deadline of a group buy so you're certain to get what you want, that is unless there's not enough interest in one of the kits you've selected.

Mark0 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2016, 03:38 PM »

I loved the original Model M of a IBM PS2 Mod. 80 I have spent some time with, and then a Trust -something- of some years after that was very similar.
I'm missing the feel of a mechanical keyboard from when I started typing to late hours with people around expecting to be able to sleep!

wraith808 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2016, 11:58 PM »

Since that first post, I've spent way too much on this new hobby. I now have my plank, and jd45 besides.

But I just got back into soldering, and what I'm most proud of is the fact that I just built one from parts!

Mechanical Keyboards

Mechanical Keyboards

Ath · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2016, 03:09 AM »

Looks like a solid piece of work, but where did the numeric keys go

tomos · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2016, 04:03 AM »

Looks like a solid piece of work, but where did the numeric keys go
-Ath (June 26, 2016, 03:09 AM)

I was wondering for a moment there how it was soo small lol

Looks great wraith --
how much soldering was involved?

cranioscopical · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2016, 06:17 AM »

I just built one from parts!

-wraith808 (June 25, 2016, 11:58 PM)

It's a good-looking item. Are you about to enter space?

wraith808 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 26, 2016, 11:26 AM »

It's a 40% keyboard. I've gotten into them for writing, as it focuses me. I've actually considered making one of them my daily driver... you access the other keys in layers.

So the standard layout (which I tweaked a bit in the firmware)

Then the first function layer

And the second function layer

So, they're still accessible, and I get a keyboard that I can carry, and just like distraction free editors for writing, I consider this a distraction free keyboard for the same.

Looks like a solid piece of work, but where did the numeric keys go
-Ath (June 26, 2016, 03:09 AM)

I was wondering for a moment there how it was soo small lol

Looks great wraith --
how much soldering was involved?
-tomos (June 26, 2016, 04:03 AM)

I have a build log:

http://imgur.com/a/KQCt4

The only problem I had was in building the firmware. I ended up using an online configurator to get the hex file to flash it. I installed the toolchain, and mingw, and the programmer... but I was having problems with the references. Still want to figure that out... but the soldering, it was just two contacts for 40+ switches. The board already had the other components on it from the factory.

I just built one from parts!

-wraith808 (June 25, 2016, 11:58 PM)

It's a good-looking item. Are you about to enter space?
-cranioscopical (June 26, 2016, 06:17 AM)

Ouch. That really hurt

mrHappy · « **Reply #10 on:** June 27, 2016, 01:40 PM »

Since that first post, I've spent way too much on this new hobby. I now have my plank, and jd45 besides.

But I just got back into soldering, and what I'm most proud of is the fact that I just built one from parts!

Mechanical Keyboards

Mechanical Keyboards

-wraith808 (June 25, 2016, 11:58 PM)

I would not be able to go under a 60% board, but that is pure porn.

urlwolf · « **Reply #11 on:** July 02, 2016, 09:27 AM »

I have lots of mechanical keyboards. My favorite switch is now Matias alps, but it used to be cherry blacks.

sri · « **Reply #12 on:** November 09, 2016, 06:21 PM »

I will be receiving my Topre Realforce 87U White (Variable Weight) today.

wraith808 · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2016, 07:30 PM »

I will be receiving my Topre Realforce 87U White (Variable Weight) today.
-sri (November 09, 2016, 06:21 PM)

Pretty pricey item... nice!

Now I'm to the point where I have way too much money into it. I have so many keyboards that I need to build more computers LOL!

sri · « **Reply #14 on:** November 15, 2016, 06:46 PM »

Got it in a deal for 166.60 USD.

MilesAhead · « **Reply #15 on:** November 16, 2016, 09:09 AM »

-wraith808 (June 26, 2016, 11:26 AM)

I am curious how much this baby weighs?

Edit: I ask because it looks very cool. I use an external USB keyboard and mouse with my Laptop. I put up with wired keyboard and mouse because weight is a big factor when I have to drag all my stuff around in a suitcase. I figure the batteries must weigh something in wireless gear. Unless they use those small watch batteries.

If you used colored keys that made interesting patterns you might be able to sell custom keyboards as art. Or at least get a high price per unit.. personalized to the customer.

wraith808 · « **Reply #16 on:** November 17, 2017, 04:04 PM »

I've been working more lately on keyboards- but forgetting to post them here!

First up is one I did for Halloween.

Mechanical Keyboards

It's a 75% board- it has the arrow keys, and a column of keys to the right. It also has the function key row. But it's still pretty compact. I updated it with a couple of Halloween themed artisans (a ghost and an orange gradient), mostly because my daughter got on me that a starburst and an anchor are not Halloween themed!

One of my daily drivers:

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It's a Clueboard Rev 2 off of Dent and Ding. Silver Case and GMK Plum. Interestingly enough, even though I got the parts cheap because of dent and ding, I can't tell that there is any imperfection!

My other daily driver is a Clueboard Rev 2 that I paid full price for with a gray case, and GMK Honeywell.

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The one below that in that image is a Red Scarf Ver.B. It was my daily driver, and I can't bring myself to break up with it.

2017-01-19 Red Scarf II+ with Hyperfuse-50%.png

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wraith808 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 17, 2017, 04:31 PM »

More keyboards:

Two that I put together just because I have a problem:

Mechanical Keyboards

Mechanical Keyboards

The one on the bottom I took to work to replace this one:

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This one I did for my daughter:

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And one I did for my wife:

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wraith808 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 17, 2017, 04:48 PM »

And a family picture of all of my 40% boards:

Mechanical Keyboards

The sad thing is I have more assembled and unassembled. I'm hoping to move into my new office soon, and have shelves to put them on and display them to make me at least think that I don't have a problem.

Deozaan · « **Reply #19 on:** November 17, 2017, 04:51 PM »

Quite the collection you've got there!

Approx. how much does one of those things cost to make?

wraith808 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 17, 2017, 04:56 PM »

Quite the collection you've got there!

Approx. how much does one of those things cost to make?
-Deozaan (November 17, 2017, 04:51 PM)

It really depends. In the 40% family picture, there's this one custom one - the kb45p (which is the one on the bottom left). That's my cheapest one at about $100. You can make them cheaper- I just had to get custom plates cut which drove up the price. That purple one that I just made on a whim was about $102. Both of those prices are without the keycaps.

The economy of scale and quality come into play quite a bit. One-offs are inherently more, and if you can get a lot of people to join in, they're inherently less. And mass market is definitely a lot less. But for a keyboard in a reasonable range, of reasonable quality from a storefront, I'd say about $150 or so without the keycaps.

My wife and daughter's keyboards, I started with a standard keyboard I purchased from amazon, and just got the custom keycaps for the boards. So those were a lot less, as they keycaps on those are from non-top line manufacturers.

My daily drivers (the two clueboards) were $180 just for the keycaps, and the boards themselves were $229 for the dent and ding board, and 260 for the non-dent and ding.

Then I had to provide the switches; I tend to get them on massdrop in bulk when they have them, so they were just sitting around. For 120 gateron brown switches (which is what I tend to run) it's about $25 from there.

My most expensive board is probably my JD45- that was a complete custom with custom case and bluetooth. OR my ergodox, which I haven't put together yet: 276.98 for the kit, but not sure if I'm going to switch out the keycaps which would drive it up more.

wraith808 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 17, 2017, 12:29 PM »

Another one I just put together (did I mention I have a problem)

Mechanical Keyboards

Mechanical Keyboards

I need to find either the spacebars for this kit, or another set to put on it, as I didn't have the foresight to purchase a split spacebar kit when I got in the buy for these keycaps.

mouser · « **Reply #22 on:** December 17, 2017, 01:09 PM »

Whoa those are pretty cool.. Maybe we can commission one from you as a NANY prize..

Target · « **Reply #23 on:** December 17, 2017, 04:15 PM »

curious about recommendations for a mechanical keyboard nooby.

I'm interested in getting a tenkeyless board (nothing as extreme as 40%!) but all these switches and options mean nothing to me, and spending $140+ a time to test a keyboard isn't in my budget

tomos · « **Reply #24 on:** December 17, 2017, 05:07 PM »

curious about recommendations for a mechanical keyboard nooby.

I'm interested in getting a tenkeyless board (nothing as extreme as 40%!) but all these switches and options mean nothing to me, and spending $140+ a time to test a keyboard isn't in my budget
-Target (December 17, 2017, 04:15 PM)

below a 68key board (no F keys) recommended by wraith. If you scroll down (on amazon) it gets compared with a few others that also might suit

the Qisan keyboards are pretty nice for the price.

http://www.amazon.co...cforce/dp/B01872MCIA

The browns are more for some reason... the blacks and blues are a lot less. On this particular keyboard, you're giving up the function row (which can be accessed using the function key) and the numeric keypad. It's a good tradeoff.
-wraith808 (May 25, 2016, 02:22 PM)