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Last post Author Topic: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten  (Read 196210 times)

Dormouse

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #975 on: January 13, 2022, 02:51 PM »
Gödel's pkm performance tests

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #976 on: January 14, 2022, 04:45 PM »
I'm not saying that you should adopt asciidoc vs markdown, only that converting between any of these text formats is easy now with things like pandoc. This is why zimwiki's format is pretty solid as a choice. And the spec is clearer (worst case scenario that the tool goes away, I can still read it and render it easy.

Try it and you will see how much of a difference it makes on typing latency. It 'feels' different. You can measure with typometer (From Pavel Faltin).

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #977 on: January 17, 2022, 03:30 PM »
While I agree there are better formats than markdown, I don't even care anymore lol.  For me, I have achieved the dream of writing text files any way I wish (as long as it's markdown format loll), in terms of I can do it in a text editor, obsidian, zettlr, who cares.  Beautiful!  Next, I can have webpages created instantly as I modify.  To me, this setup is basically future-proof, and now I'm just creating content.

Also, I am pleased to say I am maturing in my use of the whole zettelkestan method.  THe last couple of years, I've been trying to "follow the rules" and so forth while I learn and adopt it.  But now I see it doesn't matter what the rules are, but the ideas are good.  I got into a habit of making fairly long notes, as once I start writing I just go.  But now I see the value of having short, concise rules as going back to read or use the notes is not very productive when they are long.  So now I'm in the phase of shortening the longer notes and linking them etc.

I don't do any of the unique numbering thing.  I label everything in plain english, I don't care.  I let the software keep track of the links.  I use yaml headers to manage slugs and titles properly. 

I am now (for certain subjects I have started) at a point where I can write a fairly long essay or chapter of a book by just opening notes up and reading while writing stuff (almost without thinking) because all the details I've already analyzed are right there.

At one point, I thought the value was going to be to write all these notes, then I can simply stitch them together.  SO i was very picky about what i wrote and how they are organized.  BUt now I'm not picky about either of those.  Because its faster just to rewrite as needed.  The benefit is having the key analytical stuff right there, no time wasted re-analyzing or figuring out the flow or logic.  THat's where the productivity has come in for me.

SO that's my update!!

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #978 on: January 17, 2022, 04:25 PM »
Oh another update....
you guys know I love that Emanote software.  I worked with the guy to create a way to easily install it on Windows with proper live file syncing and website updating.  Instructions found here:

https://github.com/s...d/emanote/issues/230

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #979 on: January 17, 2022, 04:48 PM »
While I agree there are better formats than markdown, I don't even care anymore lol.  For me, I have achieved the dream of writing text files any way I wish (as long as it's markdown format loll), in terms of I can do it in a text editor, obsidian, zettlr, who cares.  Beautiful!  Next, I can have webpages created instantly as I modify.  To me, this setup is basically future-proof, and now I'm just creating content.

This sums it up for me.

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #980 on: January 18, 2022, 09:59 AM »
Zim can produce sites that are very similar to what emanote does (if I got it right). I'm seriously considering having a public facing website (and internal docs) in zim.

The one thing I don't think it solves well is collaboration/molecular permissions.

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #981 on: January 18, 2022, 10:00 AM »
How do you guys collaborate with others (if at all) when using plain text? Say real time (like gdocs; MDhack for example) or asynchronoulsly (github for example)?

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #982 on: January 18, 2022, 12:47 PM »
How do you guys collaborate with others (if at all) when using plain text? Say real time (like gdocs; MDhack for example) or asynchronoulsly (github for example)?

Liveshare, Cryptpad, HackMD and/or gdocs (which one depends on who I need to collaborate with), or for longer term, github or bitbucket.

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #983 on: January 18, 2022, 01:01 PM »
Zim can produce sites that are very similar to what emanote does (if I got it right). I'm seriously considering having a public facing website (and internal docs) in zim.

The one thing I don't think it solves well is collaboration/molecular permissions.
zim is a very nice all in one solution.  It does make webpages too!  i could see myself replacing onenote with zim.  but the website thing, i feel emanote has better features under the hood.  and more to come!

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #984 on: January 19, 2022, 02:49 PM »
More on Zim:
what a great all in one solution!  I'm going to create a mini-book using it.  Fine piece of FREE ass.

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #985 on: January 21, 2022, 01:54 PM »
Cryptpad is great, no idea it existed!
if it could import zim files and keep the links it'd be a wonderful way of requesting comments.

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Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten
« Reply #986 on: January 24, 2022, 02:57 PM »
zim https://zim-wiki.org/
It's everything I wanted from a notetaking tool.

Sadly, no mobile version, despite several for various flavours of Unix/Linux/BSD.