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Maybe the dinosaur should be smaller than cody and on a leash next to cody (on his right hand side) like his pet?




Logo -  Logo_07.png

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WEBSITE: https://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Other/mobysaurus


moby_site.jpg


I love this new site so much and I think it looks much better than the program's namesake site. :D :D

In addition to the beautiful DC theme, now any user can look for useful information related to this program on our newly launched Help Desk:

helpdesk.jpg



And if you like, it's easy to join our DonationCoder.com IRC chat and let us help you, just click on the 'Live Chat' link on the left of the page:

moby_irc.jpg




Special Thanks to

nudone, for designing this wonderful DC theme  :Thmbsup:

jgpaiva and mouser, for offering me advice on site design and scripting



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SMF Forum Mods / Spam (please ignore this topic)
« on: January 25, 2007, 01:46 AM »
SPAM.  Please feel free to ignore this topic.  :)

- anderson

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SMF Forum Mods / Spammed Topic (please ignore this thread)
« on: January 24, 2007, 08:09 AM »
SPAM.  Please feel free to ignore this topic.  :)

- anderson

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SMF Forum Mods / Spammed Topic (please ignore this)
« on: January 23, 2007, 09:14 PM »
SPAM.  Please feel free to seriously ignore this topic.

Tip:
By manually editing the subject of your reply to something like "Spam (please ignore this topic)" or "Spammed Topic (please ignore this)" (if you agree it's spam), the risk of people accidentally clicking on this topic is reduced, when they see it appears in "Recent Posts". :)

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Really nice to have you here, Charles!

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SMF Forum Mods / Spamming Activity (please ignore this topic)
« on: January 23, 2007, 01:31 PM »
SPAM.  Please feel free to ignore this topic.  :)

- anderson

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SMF Forum Mods / Spamming Activity (please ignore this topic)
« on: January 23, 2007, 01:30 PM »
SPAM.  Please feel free to ignore this topic.  :)

- anderson

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BTW, HKCU is usually better than HKLM unless you need one local account to make the loading decision for all accounts. Again, it takes away a layer of control for the individual.

Thanks, modifying in HKCU is indeed a better choice, no drawbacks as I see it. :up:  (updated ver 1.0.52 reads/writes only in HKCU->Run)


On the flip side, the StartUp folder lets you temporarily bypass running those items at login (shift key) and you can drag & drop items in and out to change their behavior.

True. However I think users can still easily enable/disable the auto-run behavior in Moby just as what they can do with it in Startup folder; and even easier sometimes. (Just go to Options -> check/uncheck "auto-run")

Every time Moby starts, it checks out "Run" in the registry; if it finds a key named "MobysaurusThesaurus", the program checks the option "auto-run and minimize-to-tray when windows starts", and auto-updates the launch path if it's different from where the executable is located.


The shortcut properties sheet also lets you specify whether to start minimized, maximized, or "normal". What would the benefit be of a registry-based start? ;)

Would anyone want Moby to auto-start in any other way than "minimized"?  :D :D

(btw, the program always remembers its last window state - size, position, and max/min/normal)

It seems to me that the same level of convenience is offered to end users when they decide whether or not to allow auto-start, and in truth registry manipulation is much easier to program and adds less overhead to the code (if the program has to add/remove/check/update the shortcut/reg key)  ;)


P.S. you know I always let moby stay in my system tray, this 1.0.52 ver prevents it from auto-hiding from me even if I ignores it.  8)  (am I being unreasonable? :P)

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CodyQuote PRO is the way to go!  :-* :-* :-*

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The product is terrific!  Is there a way to start the application minimized-to-try, so that it can easily included in the startup group, and always be available?

Thanks carlz, very nice suggestion! I have added the option to "auto-run and minimize-to-tray when windows starts". When you enable this option, the program adds a key to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run in your registry so it'll be auto-loaded next time Windows starts up. Likewise, if you disable the option (default disabled), the registry key will be removed.

Screenshot - 23_01_2007 , 3_58_56 AM.png


Check out the first post of this thread to get the download link of this new version.  :)


Just a thought:
I tend not to recommend allowing Mobysaurus Thesaurus to auto-start with Windows because it may slow down Windows system startup.
Read topic Speed Up Mobysaurus Thesaurus Startup to see why.  :)

And the option does not imply that the program automatically goes to tray every time you minimize/close it. For that, you'll need to check "Minimize to tray" and/or "Close to tray" in options.


Thanks again!  :Thmbsup:

- anderson

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Thank you!  8)

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Mobysaurus / Re: Speed Up Mobysaurus Thesaurus Startup
« on: January 22, 2007, 03:17 AM »
Another nice way (suggested by mouser) to keep Mobysaurus Thesaurus always handy is to activate the "Minimize to Tray" and/or "Close to Tray" options.

Simply go to Menu "Settings -> Options" to check them:

Screenshot - 22_01_2007 , 8_11_05 PM.png


The program will just stay in your system tray area after you click on the minimize/close button, and it's easy to restore the main window:

1. Left-click on the tray icon            OR

2. Press the hotkey (Ctrl + Alt + A, by default)

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I'd like to see an SMF mod that provide me with an option in my profile to block every posting made by gri and every posting that is a reply to a posting by gri.

*** This is not a joke or a troll ***

I am seriously losing my patience with all of this and I am already visiting DC's forums less often and am starting to think about implementing some filters and not reading the random posts that often unveiled some interesting gem I wouldn't have seen otherwise. This would also mean visiting the forums indirectly via web watcher or some equivalent instead of directly, as I do now.

SO, if there exists a MOD for SMF that allows members to block all posting of chosen member(s), please install it on DC.com.

* update * I will make a donation to anybody who can find such a mod and provide the info to mouser to install it.

I cannot agree with you more, Tinjaw. I also find myself in desperate need of such a mod for filtering out every post made by gri and esp. any post that contains link to his so-called "forum". I'm reluctant to ignore the whole forum section (SMF Forum Mods) here but I'm finding gri's posts getting increasingly (and sometimes extremely) disturbing and annoying, so what can I do?  :(

(And as one of the Global Moderators here, I really don't think it's appropriate for me to ignore any forum section as a whole.)


To Farmsteader, Tinjaw, and Mouser:

Since I'm not at all familar with such mods and tools, I really would like to thank you all for your efforts! :Thmbsup:


- anderson

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Mobysaurus / Speed Up Mobysaurus Thesaurus Startup
« on: January 22, 2007, 01:51 AM »
It's not uncommon for a .NET application (like Mobysaurus Thesaurus) to take quite some time starting up when you *first* launch it (cold startup) after turning on your PC, or re-launch it after you have it closed for a long while.

Same to all .NET assemblies, the Mobysaurus Thesaurus executables cannot be started "straight away", they store "temporary code", in other words. Your operating system actually first loads .NET Framework components (the translator) into the memory and they will further compile the original assemblies to native code that will specifically run on your PC. So it would take longer for a .NET app to start up; and if Mobysaurus Thesaurus is usually the first .NET program to run on your PC, there are gonna be quite some hard disk activities during the launch because the system has to load all these .NET framework components into memory for the first time before any actual "temporary code" translation can begin.

There's a way to pre-compile the .NET assemblies, cache native images and thus improve startup time - with NGEN, a tool that ships with .NET Framework installation package. So if you have .NET Framework 2.0 installed, you can take advantage of this NGEN tool.

I've made a batch file, just download and run it from your local machine. Takes about 20 seconds to complete the whole speed-up process and the effects will remain until you update your Mobysaurus Thesaurus next time.

Click the link below to download:
http://www.mobysauru...saurus/moby_ngen.bat


Source code
REM change "c:\program files\Mobysaurus Thesaurus\" to your actual installation path of .NET Framework 2.0, if needed
REM change "c:\program files\Mobysaurus Thesaurus\" to your actual installation path of Mobysaurus Thesaurus, if needed

c:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\ngen queue pause
c:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\ngen install "c:\program files\Mobysaurus Thesaurus\MSThesaurus.exe" /queue:1
c:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\ngen install "c:\program files\Mobysaurus Thesaurus\MCLHotkey.dll" /queue:2
c:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\ngen update /queue
c:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\ngen executequeueditems 1
c:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\ngen queue continue


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I just timed it. It took 31 seconds for "cold launch" and 10 seconds for relaunch and those are pretty much consistent. This is on a 2.6 GHz XP SP2 machine.

That's really not cool.. :( Sorry for the inconvenience, tide.

I'm looking into this performance issue right now; in the mean while, could you tell me how much memory do you have on your PC? (will def help me diagnose the problem)

Thanks!  :)

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Am I the only one experiencing this? Mobysaurus takes just about forever to start up.

Hello tide and welcome to our forum!  :)

It's not uncommon for a .NET application (like Mobysaurus Thesaurus) to take quite some time starting up when you *first* launch it (cold startup) after turning on your PC, or re-launch it after you have it closed for a long while.

Usually for me its cold startups take about 10-15 secs and 2 secs for warm startups afterwards.

Same to all .NET assemblies, the Mobysaurus Thesaurus executables cannot be started "straight away", they store "temporary code", in other words. Your operating system actually first loads .NET Framework components (the translator) into the memory and they will further compile the original assemblies to native code that will specifically run on your PC. So it would take longer for a .NET app to start up; and if Mobysaurus Thesaurus is usually the first .NET program to run on your PC, there are gonna be quite some hard disk activities during the launch because the system has to load all these .NET framework components into memory for the first time before any actual "temporary code" translation can begin.

Anyway, "excuses" aside :P, definitely not looking good if it takes "forever" for you to start it up. :(  Hmmm, how long does it usually take and  does it start up like a turtle in a coma every time, if I may ask?

Thanks!  :Thmbsup:

- anderson

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SMF Forum Mods / Re: Is there a better way to handle Gri's posts?
« on: January 21, 2007, 08:42 AM »
Whew!  That's a relief!  As a demo, Moby, take a look back at my post.  It has been modified and you can do it too, unless Mouser has restricted you to your room for forgetting your manners! :)  Actually, I am gratified that it turned out this way otherwise the perception I had would have been perpetuated unknowingly.  Somehow things just work out at DC.  I hope this holds true for Gri.

LOL, that was hilarious!   :lol: :lol:   You know mouser was gonna  :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:  had I not replied in time!  :lol: :lol:

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SMF Forum Mods / Re: Is there a better way to handle Gri's posts?
« on: January 21, 2007, 07:41 AM »
I find an interesting contradiction here... 
On the one hand you defend Gri's place to post on DC and strongly deny that his posts will be censored/removed even to apologizing for Anderson's method of criticizing Gri, but you then make a unilateral (AFAIK) action of "censoring" Mobysaurus's post by clipping it and changing the subject in the name of "tolerance."   Why are the expressions of distaste and disdain from a bitter heart more sacrosanct than the alarmed passion of a sweeter one?

History has a library of lessons about the dangers of "tolerance."  Please be careful.

Hah, Farmsteader, that must have been a huge misunderstanding ;D (not your fault, since I didnt make this clearer)

I gave this whole thing a big second thought after mouser's reply and I edited it myself (well he did request that the topic be changed but I should do it anyway).

So it's not true that mouser modified my post (he never did such a terrible thing to me AFAIK :P) and I really don't think he would modify anyone's post here even if he gets very annoyed. :up:

Love you guys all!  :-* :-* :-*

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SMF Forum Mods / Re: Concerning posts subscription mod
« on: January 21, 2007, 03:49 AM »
I have seen posts by Gri on other forums related to the true meaning of the term "free speech".

You mentioned two of his posts:

http://talkinter.net...opic=3.msg131#msg131

To be honest, if his posts on DC forum show the same spirits and courtesy as in his above posts, I hope I can be the first one to welcome him to our forum.  :)

From what I see here, he's an "embittered" person, like what Farmsteader said, who is (in my opinion) -

1.  Trying to communicate in a way that effectively forces folks here to share his feelings/philosophy/ideology and/or eccentricity.

2.  If #1 does not work, just be an annoyance and gradually get attention anyway, won't hurt him/her anything.

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We also need to be careful that we don't scare people away either because we are perceived to be supremacist head-hunters.  Regardless of the validity/invalidity of their judgements, we must be cautious to guard how we are perceived by those that will judge.  As you stated in your post, you are young and I perceive your passion for the sanctity of the great treasure we all share here, but if I may, I might suggest that we let the sagacious leadership of DonationCoder exercise the strengths we know so well and that has caused us to grow to respect them like we do.  We are in good, capable, sober and strong hands.

I could not agree any more with you, Farmsteader. Perfect points you've made and I really should not have made such comments. Lessons learned.  :Thmbsup:

(my original comment strikethroughed.  :))

- Anderson

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SMF Forum Mods / Re: Concerning posts subscription mod
« on: January 21, 2007, 03:22 AM »
app103:

You have a good point there.

However what if someday you, or more broadly, other folks here, would have to see such posts on DonationCoder forum all over?

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Take this topic of Gri's for example:

https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=6997.0


Screenshot - 21_01_2007 , 7_05_08 PM.png


Most folks here might not be interested in SMF Forum Mods at all, presumably.  :P  It's true, tell Me to peruse books on assembly language or even on C++! Sure I'll get immediately turned off by all these "geeky", 150-IQ-required stuff - but I won't get annoyed because my incapability to understand them does not matter since other people will find them useful.

I don't think this theory can also be applied to Gri's posts here in the same way.

You'll see what I meant by "being (almost completely) disrespectful": always self-quoting/self-linking, providing no useful info (at least from my view), cryptic language.

Every time such a topic/post get posted, it appears on the main board page of our forum and people click it, try to figure out these cr**, get annoyed and leave. What the exact point of having such stuff in our community?

I'm a young college student, and I'm no genius; there are lots of stuff I'm not able to understand and I know it pretty well. I asked that Gri be banned not because I could not understand his posts, but because these like-spamming activities.

- Anderson

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SMF Forum Mods / Is there a better way to handle Gri's posts?
« on: January 21, 2007, 01:03 AM »
The poll on "Do you think Gri's posts should be allowed here any more?" has been removed and I have changed to subject of this topic to:

Is there a better way to handle Gri's posts?

Original poll:

Spoiler
poll: Do you think Gri's posts should be allowed here any more?

Thank you for viewing/participating in this poll.

For a self-explanatory reason why this poll is here:
Gri's posts in this forum section (SMF Forum Mods)

To know more about Gri:
Gri's profile
Gri's own Forum - "Grivitation Space of the Earth"

To see why I do not think Gri's posts should be allowed here any more, check out my post here:
Re: First Valid Signature of Life Satisfaction


As you know we don't currently have established & published forum rules/guilelines, do you think we are in (urgent) need of such pages here?

How should we work hard to make DonationCoder forum a better place for everyone (while defending free speech)?

Please feel absolutely free to post your comment below and we need you help!  :Thmbsup:

(also please keep in mind that this poll is not created against Gri, but only his/her posts. Drama / flaming is seriously frowned upon.)

Sincerely,
Anderson


It was a bit controversial as it turned out and might not have been appropriate from the beginning. (If you have found the poll to be annoying, please accept my sincere apologies)



DonationCoder.com is growing and becoming a huge, comprehensive site. The possibility of people here (esp. moderators) facing difficult situations (like this discussion on Gri' posts) is thus increasing.

1. Do you think we are in (urgent) need of forum rules/guilelines here? (as you know we don't yet officially have them)

2. How should we work hard to keep everything here in the spirit of DonationCoder and make this site a better place for everyone?

Thanks!  :Thmbsup:

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SMF Forum Mods / Re: Language Update Mod
« on: January 20, 2007, 07:33 AM »
Originally posted here: https://www.donation...63.msg49485#msg49485

... :-\

Well, maybe I'm just one of the low life forms on earth who's not able to see through this mist of secrecy and comprehend this extraterrestrial wisdom.

Just want to say that ppl usually post and read on forums hosted on Earth (like ours) for good reasons, i.e. they want to share useful info with others, get opinions, find solutions, etc. - in the shortest time possible. I doubt posting something far beyond ppl's normal comprehension is helpful to them.

And every forum is in its essence a community in which etiquette is always appreciated.

DC forum is in my eyes, a great, cherished community. Most members here show respect for each other - not only in that they are friendly to each other, extremely low rate of flaming as you can see, but also in that they make meaningful posts in meaningful ways that help other members here find what them want, for them to be more productive. That's what I see as being respectful, and I appreciate it from time to time.

Unfortunately I failed to find the same satisfaction in your posts (99% of them, if not 100%). Last time you posted, it took me 15 mins simply trying to figure out "what the hell is that post about?" before I lost interest and gave up.

If someone fears that his post might get blast into oblivion because the forum is moderated (c'mon, which isn't?), then he must realize that it would certainly not help to make a post on a forum which does nothing but links to another (actual) post on another forum - because sooner or later there'll be enough members in the community who find this person annoying and ask him to be banned.  :)

Gri:
I, for one, request that you show respect to your/our folks who hang around here who do not want to waste their time clicking and seeing something that they might not ever understand. And I'm committed to repeating such words and this request in every single thread that doesn't make sense.  :)


Sincerely,
Anderson

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