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Cavalcader: Words in blue are headwords in the existing Moby database, on which you can click to see more synonyms, while red words are just synonyms.  ;)  Sorry I didn't make this clear.

Tomos: Good point! I'll try to just retain words that are "unquestionably profane" to serve as the default list.

I'd like to allow users to freely & easily edit this profane words list after installation based on the default one.
If it's been edited by the user, it won't get replaced next time he upgrades, unless he "restores default".  :)

Its running even after closing Orbit because the developer forgot to include the ability to have it be closed along with Orbit. That will change in a later version.

IMHO, it really takes a lot of efforts to forget including this "ability".  :)

Anyway, to err is human.

That's a good question! Here's probably a good place to start:

Thanks for looking into it.  :Thmbsup:

Warning: Very Offensive Content

Please feel free to edit this list, ppl!

This is for the profanity list in Moby so as to let users (optionally) filter out offensive words, we do not in any way, encourage usage of these words!

...we do some google search to find it contain any adware/spyware before, but unfortunately, we doesn't find it.

Here're two of them, I hope you'll find them helpful :)

From Neowin Forum

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Screenshot - 13_11_2006 , 6_40_41 PM.png

and this one in Google Groups:

Screenshot - 13_11_2006 , 6_43_23 PM.png

Hi all:

I'm the developer of Orbit downloader, Our official support email address is
< orbitdownloader  at >. Welcome for your suggestion.

1. orbitnet.exe is an optional program which uses the DHT p2p network to locate additional
  copies of the program you are downloading, much like torrent does,so that it can download
  pieces of the file from different servers and combine them, in order to speed up download.
  You can't disable it in current version, But in next version,you can disable it during
  installation & options menu.

2. We never install any toolbar/adware/spyware to system, We are contacting with the anti-virus vendor
to solve the mis-alarm problem.

3. Orbit Downloader have no relationship with adware "Orbit Explorer", Orbit name come from NASA's website,
 we think it is cool, and we do some google search to find it contain any adware/spyware before, but unfortunately, we doesn't find it.

4. Orbit Downloader was building from scratch, It have no relationship with FDM.

Thank for every advice. We want to do better, and don't be evil :(

Orbit Team

Hi Orbitdev, first I'd like to thank you for taking the time to help us clear this up. I'm sure many members here will find it useful. As you know I did post with some evidence I gathered against your product, if it turned out to a false alarm, I will apologize on the forum.

With all due respect and no offense, I have to admit that I do question your sincerity in the case:

Under CNET's software submission rules, you are NOT allowed to post your reviews if you are the developer himself.. LET ALONE posting any "user review", especially with another user account.

Screenshot - 13_11_2006 , 6_06_24 PM.png

edit: added url link to the review page.

I'd appreciate if the author, when possible/convenient, could stand out and help us clear this fog of mystery.  :)

- Anderson

moby, your image above shows it is reporting english translation .ini files as malware??

Well, if it determines that the main components of Orbit (exe, dll) are malicious, I'd certainly appreciate it for offering me options to remove its minion helper files.

this program is reporting this as "xupiter" which it says ads an ad-based IE toolbar .  from testing orbit in a virtual pc i can say it does not do this.

some of xupiter variants do not install toolbars, them pop up ads base on your urls and/or search terms

Please be noted that Orbit is a new and not-yet-popular program and as a result the majority of anti-spyware software vendors are not yet alerted, which does not give "all-clear".

ad-aware does not report anything..

Report from the latest Spyware Doctor:
(Windows Vista RC1, Orbit

C:\Program Files\Orbit is where Orbit was installed, in this case.


Hey, Anderson, with debugging and stuff, you never did comment on my note awhile back:
What would you think about a "safe search" option

Is there any chance you'd consider an optional vulgar/profane language filter?

Sorry, Cavalcader, my fault, plz  :trout: me! And thanks for reminding!  :Thmbsup:

We def need this option as moby's user base grows. It should not be hard to implement, with ability to allow a custom blacklist, and base on which to filter out vulgar/profane synonyms/headwords.

Do we have a relatively comprehensive list of vulgar/profane words to serve as the default blacklist?  :-[

NOTE: there has been some discussion of the possibility this program might contain adware.. please read this entire thread.!

Ya, Orbit right after install is trying to connect to DUDU.COM

Name: Adware.DuDu

TAC Rating: 4

Category: Adware

Adware.DuDu is a Chinese application that shows advertising while
browsing with Internet Explorer. It is part of a bundled install and
installs without user consent. There is also an English version of this


the domain name registrar data can be viewed & verified here:

Look at these homebrew user reviews GALORE! How hilarious!  ;D,.html

I think it could be an option to whether to use the embedded browser within Moby T (which is good as a default) or use some other web browser.

Thank you cemole!  :Thmbsup:

1.0.39a allows you to look up in your default (external) browser and there are a few additional option to fa ciliate this.  :)

Living Room / Re: A Guide to Writing Effective Emails
« on: November 09, 2006, 10:45 AM »
Thanks Ken!

I got "Wordpress: Error establishing a database connection" err message.  :(
Seems to be a problem with the blog atm. Will check back later.

Very helpful articles!

General Software Discussion / The Dude! - free network monitor
« on: November 06, 2006, 03:58 AM »
The Dude network monitor is a new application by MikroTik which can dramatically improve the way you manage your network enviroment. It will automatically scan all devices within specified subnets, draw and layout a map of your networks, monitor services of your devices and alert you in case some service has problems.

Some of it's features:

    * The Dude is free of charge!
    * Auto network discovery and layout
    * Discovers any type or brand of device
    * Device, Link monitoring, and notifications
    * Includes SVG icons for devices, and supports custom icons and backgrounds
    * Easy installation and usage
    * Allows you to draw your own maps and add custom devices
    * Supports SNMP, ICMP, DNS and TCP monitoring for devices that support it
    * Individual Link usage monitoring and graphs
    * Direct access to remote control tools for device management
    * Supports remote Dude server and local client
    * Runs in Linux Wine enviroment, MacOS Darwine, and Windows
    * Best price/value ratio compared to other products (free of charge)


Really nicely done and useful for those who does network troubleshooting, analysis, or is simply curiously about how home network looks like. And it's free.  :Thmbsup:

Living Room / Re: Linux security programs
« on: November 05, 2006, 02:44 AM »

P.S.: Is Mobysaurus available in a Linux compatable format? :o

hah! I tried to make one for Linux, only to find *nix's not for simpletons (like me).  ;D

GO ahead and make a linux version for all your fella users!

The problem lies with Moby. It makes a local connection to listen on any ports, and when this is denied it causes Moby to crash.
-Defenestration (October 26, 2006, 06:24 PM)

After "debugging" for a long time (which almost killed me ;D) I can now say with confidence that this port listening issue is not in any way malicious nor is it any bug in Moby code.

Moby is developed in Visual Studio .NET 2005, which offers this brand-new option to "Make single instance application".



What it does is only letting the end-user have just one copy of the program running at the same time. If another session of the same program is initiated, what you'll see is the first instance of that program gets focused and brought to the front on screen.

If the application is compiled without "Make single instance application" checked, it does not listen to any port. Also I made a compilation of Moby without enforcing "single instance", it turned out no port was opened/listened to.

Unfortunately, I was not able to find anything online, or in MSDN archives, that talks about this issue.  :(

However, thank god I was able to capture this fleeting "connection established" event:


It basically showed that the second Moby instance launched was communicating with the first one that was already running, after this split-second contact, the second instance closed itself and the first one was focused and brought to the front. And that established connection was dropped.

So based on Overview of the Visual Basic Application Model, I'm guessing this port listening is necessary for a "make single instance" application to:
1. Raising the "StartupNextInstance" event
2. Pass command-line arguments to the first instance
3. Tell the first instance to focus self
etc. before the second instance auto exits.

I do encourage everybody to test this out on Visual Studio 2005 Professional or Express edition, with Process Explorer, which is a marvelous free tool for monitoring application runtime behaviors.

Thank you again Defenestration :Thmbsup:, I'll def use Process Explorer heavily to test & improve Moby before releasing.

- Anderson

It's the Properties dialog of Process Explorer (http://www.sysintern...ProcessExplorer.html)
-Defenestration (October 26, 2006, 10:16 PM)

Thanks! I ran Process Explorer and checked Moby's runtime behavior.

It seems that Moby listens to a random port (69xx, 70xx, etc. ) when running for no reason.

It really shouldn't since no one tells it to, port listening is absolutely unnecessarily and it does nothing for the program. Dunno why this happens  :-\ Anyway, I'll try to figure it out.

Thanks again for letting me know this issue.   :Thmbsup:

Process Explorer is a super powerful & handy program, no wonder Microsoft bought Sysinternals

The problem lies with Moby. It makes a local connection to listen on any ports, and when this is denied it causes Moby to crash.
-Defenestration (October 26, 2006, 06:24 PM)

hmm.. that's a bit intriguing. Coz afaik strictly 100% of all code blocks related to online updating are protected head-to-toe against unhandled exceptions, which means nothing would cause moby to crash by itself.  :)

btw, what firewall was that in the screenshot?

I'm using Look 'n' Stop 2.05p3 with Phantom's rule-set (although using the supplied Enhanced rule set should be equivalent) which you can get from http://wilderssecuri...owthread.php?t=98973.
-Defenestration (October 25, 2006, 11:17 AM)

I couldn't get Look 'n' Stop installed. It seems that the installer tried to install a unsigned device driver and the "Continue Anyway" window kept flashing, which made it impossible to proceed, then I had to kill the installer through task manager.  :(

So if you remove the rule in your firewall that allows Moby to connect, do you get an alert when Moby starts ?
If you then deny that connection, what happens ?
-Defenestration (October 25, 2006, 11:17 AM)

No. If "auto-check for updates" is disabled (default), moby doesn't by itself attempt to connect to the Internet at all. If enabled, moby will try to connect to DC server to download a 6-byte version info file to determine if a newer update is available. This request might get blocked by firewall but no error message is displayed to the user, let alone crashing the program itself. (Tested with ZoneAlarm and native Windows XP SP2 firewall)

It might be possible that the Look 'n' Stop firewall prevents .NET Framework 2.0 web component (which moby uses) from loading, which causes the framework to display an error message.

Before any window was displayed, my firewall alerted me that it wanted to connect to the Internet and I clicked Deny.).
-Defenestration (October 25, 2006, 11:00 AM)

Weird. AFAIK, moby does not at all connect to the Internet unless "auto-check for updates" is enabled.  :(

Which firewall is currently active on your PC?  :) I think I'll have to test moby with it.

Just installed Mobysaurus (1.0.36) for the first time and it crashed after I denied it access to the web. :(
-Defenestration (October 25, 2006, 09:37 AM)


Why would you do that to it!   ;)

Did you mean it crashed when you were trying "Find Online" or during something else?


Liero Xtreme - a real-time (not turn-based) version of Worms


Certainly one of my favorite online multiplayer games.  Some DC members played it together online and mouser was VERY good at killing everybody in chaos.  ;D

Find And Run Robot / Re: Typos in FARR Help
« on: October 19, 2006, 08:51 PM »
whoa, must have taken you quite a while, CG!

Very very nice and thank you!  :Thmbsup:

I'm a bit excited about this new "Suggest Roots" tab in v1.0.35.  8)

Basically, it performs a full-text search into the database, displaying whatever entries that contain the search input - as simple as it sounds.

It allows you to drop in almost any word that comes to your mind first, and let the program find appropriate roots. After that you just pick one or more roots to start with. It really saves a lot of time spent thinking "what would be the best root".

For example, I have this "fancy talk" word in my mind right and nah - it's not a root/headword, so in this case, I have to think and think again for a more general term related to "fancy talk" which hopefully is a root and therefore will show more synonyms for "fancy talk". A fair amount of time could be wasted during this and sometimes it gets frustrating.

Now we have "Suggest Roots"!

e.g., suggested roots for "fancy talk": big talk, bullshit, buncombe, bunk, bunkum, fish story, gas, hot air, tall story


Well, apparently something else was blocking the keyboard combination. I changed it Ctrl + Alt + Q and it worked. Sorry for something that isn't.

Hah, probably it was my fault in part. Moby 1.0.30 only registers hotkey once (when u start the program or activate another hotkey), so if you have Moby running and launch another program which registers the same key combination - the hotkey will no longer work for Moby.

I coded v1.0.35 to renew its system hotkey registration periodically.  :)

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