Author Topic: Super Flexible File Synchronizer Pro says Zaine (Read 56596 times)

Hirudin · « **Reply #25 on:** March 25, 2007, 10:56 AM »

Also, how about beyond compare for this task (sync'ing)? It is definitely cheaper, and it works well.
-urlwolf (March 10, 2007, 09:01 AM)

Thanks for the reminder! I'll be using this, Beyond Compare is such a cool program already, less than the other backup programs, and I absolutely 100% trust it's opinion of what is "different".

tomos · « **Reply #26 on:** March 27, 2007, 08:27 AM »

I'm very interested in this incremental backup where only the modified part of the file is backed up.

My Surfulater files are over 100MB,
but more importantly I'm going back to finish a job where many files are over 100MB as well, and I would want a lot of versions backed-up

when people start talking about scripts I'm lost,
so I'm wondering would people think I'd be able to handle any of the above mentioned programmes,

Deltacopy
or the "It works!" Chris subversion one (from urlwolf, post #24)

Oh yeah, it would be for backing up to a different partition or an external drive (with Windows XP)

nevf · « **Reply #27 on:** March 27, 2007, 05:00 PM »

Late to the party but let me throw in a few bits of info.

I've been using SFFS for years and it is a very nice application and works very well. Tobias provides great support and the product is being continually improved. I can't see where it does partial backups though and can't see how it can, as is?

RSync type applications are of no use where the source and destination files are on the same PC, even if the destination is on an external hard drive. RSync is a client/server program and its purpose is to minimize the amount of data (traffic) that needs to be sent between two computers in order to synchronize files. The client and server read the files in their entirety, several times in fact and send data back and forth to determine what parts of the files have changed. The client finally sends just the parts that have changed to the server. So the data going down the wire is minimal but the CPU and Disk use at each end is higher than a simple Copy (Backup) process.

Also note that RSync et.all. are useless where the content of files changes dramatically over time. For example lets say you have a 100 files and only two have changed. RSync will perform very well here. But if you Zip up these 100 files and use RSync on the zipped file you will probably find the entire file is sent down the wire. This is simply because most every bit in the source and destination zip files have changed. Encrypted files such as TrueCrypt containers similarly won't work effectively.

Re. Surfulater. I'm slowly working a database synchronization where only the changes are sent between copies of Surfulater.

HTH.

brahman · « **Reply #28 on:** March 29, 2007, 11:03 AM »

I have been highly satisfied with the SynchronizeIt! / CompareIt! combo from Grigsoft.

http://www.grigsoft.com/

In combination with Total Commander (which has an excellent synch tool itself, though the ability to do multiple batches is missing) SynchronizeIt! works superbly and I prefer it much over BeyondCompare, because it is simpler and much more intuitive to use, while in combination with Total Commander SI has at least the same functionality at a lower price.

Also speed is excellent, and it supports rar, zip and 7zip (in latest beta). Synchronize It! and CompareIt! integrate very well also: When you want to see exactly where the files differ, simply double click on the file pair and CompareIt! will do its magic, even comparing ini files if the sections are in different places within the file (if set up properly with the ini plugin). Then you can do a merge operation if you want line by line or change by change. In the new beta even binary comparisons are possible.

If you use them via Total Commander, you make a button on the button bar and then when you click on the button, both dirs are synched or files even within the same folder compared.

Some more info on TC integration is here:
http://www.grigsoft.com/art_totcmd.htm

SynchronizeIt! synchs folders, archives and FTP sites; it also has very powerful compare and synchronize files on non-connected PCs functions, logs and is very very fast. Preferences are stored in an ini file, thank god.

You can setup really complicated synch and backup jobs, exclude and include to your hearts content.

The interface is uncluttered and nicely designed. Download the current versions and then install the current (stable) betas/alphas over them, because the betas are bare bone programs only and this way you maintain help functionality.

SynchronizeIt! only costs about $14,50 or the combo with CompareIt! $29,50 and has a full function trial (the amounts are the 25% discounted prices by using coupon ICANSAVE).

The developer is very responsive and genuinely interested in helping his users even with complicated situations. Forum answers are prompt.

I have tested many synching programs starting with the Laplink for DOS almost twenty years ago, and I have found this software to be the best in the market.

Kind Regards,

Brahman

brotherS · « **Reply #29 on:** April 03, 2007, 07:24 AM »

I think I'll be interested in a DC discount for SFFS too! Just tried it, pretty intuitive. I'll probably only need the basic version, so a percentage discount for both versions would be cool.

grigsoft · « **Reply #30 on:** April 04, 2007, 11:43 PM »

Kind of offtopic here, but I will gladly provide DC community discount for my Synchronize It! (http://www.grigsoft.com/) in case smb is interested.

MrCrispy · « **Reply #31 on:** April 05, 2007, 12:33 AM »

How does SFFS compare to Goodsync (www.goodsync.com). One of the features which I find useful from their website is that goodsync will autodetect when external usb drives are connected and run the sync job, thus making it one less thing for me to worry about.

Armando · « **Reply #32 on:** April 11, 2007, 12:14 AM »

Late to the party but let me throw in a few bits of info.

I've been using SFFS for years and it is a very nice application and works very well. Tobias provides great support and the product is being continually improved. I can't see where it does partial backups though and can't see how it can, as is?

-nevf (March 27, 2007, 05:00 PM)

For those who haven't found out whether Super Flexible File Synchronizer (SFFS) can do partial backups, or if it uses delta synchronization technology, see : http://www.superflexible.com/partial.htm

Basically : "In your profile, make the following checkmark: Use Partial File Updating, which is on the Advanced tab sheet in Advanced Mode."

MerleOne · « **Reply #33 on:** May 02, 2007, 03:39 AM »

Hi all,

I have several questions/remarks related to SFFS, like for instance "is it possible to change the temp dir when using zipping" or "how can I easily remove a given file or a folder or some files from sync" or "what means obsolete dir in a file selection context menu". It is ok to ask them here ?

I have also used Goodsync and find the later much easier to do simple tasks and also quicker to scan dirs for differences. If I can manage, I'll do a mini-review of Goodsync.

mouser · « **Reply #34 on:** May 02, 2007, 03:58 AM »

more minireviews of similar programs would be great.

grigsoft, welcome to the site

i've sent you an email about arranging a discount for DC members.

zridling · « **Reply #35 on:** May 02, 2007, 08:30 AM »

mouser's right. I'd love to see others provide mini-reviews of their fav sync apps. There seems to be a lot of good choices in this category.

tomos · « **Reply #36 on:** May 08, 2007, 08:37 AM »

I've been using SFFS for years and it is a very nice application and works very well. Tobias provides great support and the product is being continually improved. I can't see where it does partial backups though and can't see how it can, as is?
-nevf (March 27, 2007, 05:00 PM)

For those who haven't found out whether Super Flexible File Synchronizer (SFFS) can do partial backups, or if it uses delta synchronization technology, see : http://www.superflexible.com/partial.htm

Basically : "In your profile, make the following checkmark: Use Partial File Updating, which is on the Advanced tab sheet in Advanced Mode."
-Armando (April 11, 2007, 12:14 AM)

does that mean that all your backups are then done using Partial File Updating,
or
can you have some backups done using Partial File Updating, and some done the "normal" incremental way (or just synched) as well

i.e. does the "profile" refer to everything or just a particular backup?
(havent tried it out yet ... must!)

[EDIT: ~~presumably just to particular backup~~
yes,
going by Zaines review "profile" = one particular backup]

tomos · « **Reply #37 on:** May 08, 2007, 09:08 AM »

Deltacopy is a reliable free rsync app for windows, and can do local as well as remote sync:

http://www.aboutmyip...MyXApp/DeltaCopy.jsp
-nontroppo (March 16, 2007, 11:45 AM)

i think I'm correct in understanding that this does "Partial File Updating" as well ?
and
"local" backing-up, ie to external drive or to different partition ..

yet, you ask -

what i really want however is rdiff-backup natively for windows (incremental backup with restore per delta) - anyone know of a package out there?
-nontroppo

I'm afraid
I don't understand the sequence between quotes one and two -
what is missing from DeltaCopy?

is it some restore functionality?

tomos · « **Reply #38 on:** May 08, 2007, 10:25 AM »

as you can see, I'm thinking about this a lot

as i say,
i will download the programme (SFFS),
but asking for help-advice again anyway

With the "Partial File Updating" -
Lets say I do an incremental/versioned backup of a file every day using that feature.
Presumably I can go back to the version saved, say, 10 days ago.

Is this difficult to do - has anyone had any experience/s here or tested it in that way?

Armando · « **Reply #39 on:** May 08, 2007, 01:42 PM »

With the "Partial File Updating" -

Lets say I do an incremental/versioned backup of a file every day using that feature.
Presumably I can go back to the version saved, say, 10 days ago.

Is this difficult to do - has anyone had any experience/s here or tested it in that way?
-tomos (May 08, 2007, 10:25 AM)

When I tried the trial version, a couple months ago, it was easy to keep multiple backup versions Of each file.

My understanding is that partial file updating is only for synching.

But... try it and tell us.

You could also contact the software creator.

P.-S. : everybody, check out these links :
partial updating : http://www.superflexible.com/partial.htm
Features : http://www.superflex...ble.com/features.htm
Restoring : http://www.superflexible.com/restore.htm and http://www.superflexible.com/restore.htm

(edit : added some links...)

superflexible · « **Reply #40 on:** May 08, 2007, 04:40 PM »

Hello,

software author here. Partial File Updating is only for updating large files over slow connections, and it cannot be combined with keeping multiple versions of the file, since that would defeat the purpose of updating the remote file quickly.

Cheers,
Tobias

mouser · « **Reply #41 on:** May 08, 2007, 04:43 PM »

Welcome to the site Tobias, nice to see you here.

Armando · « **Reply #42 on:** May 08, 2007, 07:58 PM »

Yes, welcome !

tomos · « **Reply #43 on:** May 09, 2007, 01:04 AM »

Thanks for the very prompt reply Tobias!
tom

nudone · « **Reply #44 on:** September 26, 2007, 12:47 PM »

i recently posted in another thread, https://www.donation...ex.php?topic=10076.0, that i'm using GoodSync as it seemed like a good price for what it offered (using NetDrive to provide additional FTP synchronisation features).

As i'm still in the trial period for using GoodSync and i'm not entirely sure how many computers i'll want to synchronise i thought it worth searching for an even cheaper alternative.

i'm now using FileSync and FTPSync from 'Fileware' http://www.fileware.com/products.htm

there appears to be plenty of features provided by both apps - and for $15 each i've yet to see anything of such value. you can even try the programs free for as long as you wish - and make a payment when you are satisfied you'll be using the product on a typical basis.

of course, you don't necessarily need both apps. i'm just playing with both until i decide whether i'll keep using the NetDrive FTP functions currently on my system.

another thing... i'm kind of surprised that neither of these 'FileWare' programs have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum - the programs appear to have been around for quite a few years so i'd expect someone to be aware of them.

tomos · « **Reply #45 on:** September 26, 2007, 12:59 PM »

Goodsync is made by the Roboform people...

nudone · « **Reply #46 on:** September 26, 2007, 01:02 PM »

Goodsync is made by the Roboform people...
-tomos (September 26, 2007, 12:59 PM)

true.

the FileWare software isn't as advanced as i first thought. still might be enough for my needs though.

iphigenie · « **Reply #47 on:** April 20, 2008, 10:58 AM »

I considered creating a separate topic but I'll revive this one first.

I did win SSFS here (

) but one thing I noticed is that for synchronising photos and mp3s (i sync between a NAS and an USB portable drive to have 2 copies of my files, and might work on one or the other) it takes a lot of time the way I set it up.

This is because if i go through and tag things, as I am doing as I am trying to clean up/organise things, then SSFS will copy all the images or MP3s back.

So this brings 2 questions
- would the partial sync work in this case? Anyone use it that way?
- if not, is there a sync option that could be "meta information only", or some specialised tools for images or mp3s?

EDIT: doesnt seem that the SFSS partial sync can work in my setup since it seems to require something installed in the remote computer and i just have 2 drives from one computer, one usb the other over the network

tomos · « **Reply #48 on:** April 20, 2008, 12:16 PM »

EDIT: doesnt seem that the SFSS partial sync can work in my setup since it seems to require something installed in the remote computer and i just have 2 drives from one computer, one usb the other over the network
-iphigenie (April 20, 2008, 10:58 AM)

off the top of my head - (you do mean the partial file update thingy?)
it works between my pc & my usb stick (with nothing special on it), but it only works for very big files -
sorry, offhand I dont know what size...

actually loooking at the website, he doesnt say, kindof silly really
http://www.superflexible.com/partial.htm

It works for me with a 200MB surfulater file but that doesnt help you any

urlwolf · « **Reply #49 on:** April 20, 2008, 06:53 PM »

iphigenie,

I had the same question. I alter the tags of lots of oggs and would like to update only those that have changed; and if the delta copy moved just the tags, so much better. Unfortunately, Tobias said it's beyond SFSS's capabilities. A bit of a bummer.