Virtual desktop tools?

[brotherS]

Hi,

I've decided to use virtual desktops in Windows 10, kinda like a trial period to see how much I like it. I don't even know yet if Windows restores Chrome tabs to different desktops after a reboot, but I'm willing to find out. 

Are there any tools you can recommend? I've found this "5 best virtual desktop software for Windows 10" article but would like feedback here before I randomly start installing stuff, and I don't plan to spend money right away. To be able to use Win+Ctrl+Left/Right to move between desktops is a great start.

[panzer]

https://github.com/octalmage/mDesktop

[brotherS]

https://github.com/octalmage/mDesktop

-panzer (October 24, 2020, 11:51 AM)

Thanks, the mDesktop description sounded good... I installed it - followed by near-instant regret: after trying a hotkey it minimized EVERYTHING (on all desktops) in a way that it looked like everything had crashed. But everything was minimized in a way that I couldn't access most programs anymore. 

Had to reboot, then I uninstalled mDesktop.

I don't even know yet if Windows restores Chrome tabs to different desktops after a reboot, but I'm willing to find out. 

-brotherS (October 24, 2020, 11:40 AM)

I just learned that Windows doesn't.

[panzer]

I used mDesktop ages ago. Then it worked as it should.

[wraith808]

I used AltDesk when I wanted to do it- http://www.astonshell.com/altdesk/

Hasn't been updated since 2010, but it still works.

[Ath]

Sounds like you are using it for personal use, so Dexpot, as suggested in the link you provided, sounds like a very good candidate.

The last update for mDesktop was in 2018, and the support department hasn't been around/active since 2014, it seems , so I'd not even have tried it, would I've been in your shoes...

[Lintalist]

I tried https://virtuawin.sourceforge.io/ in the past (Windows 7, worked well) - homepage says it works on Windows 10 so might be worth trying.

[brotherS]

I used AltDesk when I wanted to do it- http://www.astonshell.com/altdesk/

Hasn't been updated since 2010, but it still works.

-wraith808 (October 24, 2020, 01:46 PM)

I'll skip this one, the UI doesn't look appealing to me. 

Sounds like you are using it for personal use, so Dexpot, as suggested in the link you provided, sounds like a very good candidate.

-Ath (October 24, 2020, 01:49 PM)

I thought so too, at first, but then I read that they acknowledged Windows 10 issues in 2016, promising an update... but the last available version is from 2014. 

The last update for mDesktop was in 2018, and the support department hasn't been around/active since 2014, it seems , so I'd not even have tried it, would I've been in your shoes...

-Ath (October 24, 2020, 01:49 PM)

Yeah, sometimes I'm adventurous/stupid like that... 


Thanks, Lintalist, I just tried VirtuaWin (the installer didn't mention Windows 10 and the UI looks like it hasn't received updates in years), but that resulted in a similarly negative experience as with mDesktop. Everything was suddenly hidden! At least I managed to unhide everything (but to only one desktop... weird!), but the UI isn't really self-explanatory.


So far this has been quite a frustrating experience. Did everyone more or less give up working on software in this category when Windows 10 came around? 

[4wd]

There's also Desktops from SysInternals, (Microsoft), haven't used it in awhile, might be a bit minimalist though.

https://docs.microso...s/downloads/desktops

So far this has been quite a frustrating experience. Did everyone more or less give up working on software in this category when Windows 10 came around?

Most probably started going to multi-monitor, monitors became cheaper, which increased screen real estate allowing you to see it all at once rather than cycle through virtual desktops to the one you wanted.

[wraith808]

Most probably started going to multi-monitor, monitors became cheaper, which increased screen real estate allowing you to see it all at once rather than cycle through virtual desktops to the one you wanted.

-4wd (October 24, 2020, 04:06 PM)

This is the exact situation for me.  I now only use it on Virtual Machines where I'm limited to one screen.  On my other machines, I have more screens than I really use.

[Lintalist]

I'm guessing various Win 10 updates makes it hard(er) to keep programs working correctly, combined with the fact the basic functionality is now available doesn't help with motivation.

If you are a AutoHotkey user: if you google around a bit you can find quite a few scripts to help manage the Windows 10 desktops, just found this for example so you can use hotkeys to switch desktops - https://www.computer....com/tips/tip224.htm - (haven't tried it so it may no longer work correctly if something has changed).

Anyway, have fun

[Shades]

Hasn't this become a standard function in Windows 10? Thought I read about that. But if you have the room and the funds for it, a dual monitor setup will be much more useful than a virtual desktop can ever be. For most people/use-cases a dual monitor setup gives you a huge performance boost. With a triple monitor setup, results diminish rather quickly. Still, it can be useful. Having 4 or even more monitors is definitely possible, but then it is more of niche inside another niche.

The standard functionality does not fulfill your needs? The only one I know about (and barely worked with) was: Dexpot. Then my boss decided to splurge on making each workstation a dual monitor setup. Haven't looked back at Virtual Desktops ever since. That was more than 10 years ago. So, unless you absolutely must have only one monitor on your desk, spend money on a new or second hand monitor. You'll get for the price of software license a second hand monitor. Doesn't have to be the same size or resolution either.

Although having 2 same size/same resolution/same height (stand) monitors is preferable, it is not a necessity. Any second monitor is better than a virtual desktop. Always.

There is an alternative way of seeing/testing if a second monitor is for you or not. This does require a separate computer or laptop on the same LAN network next to each other. Or at least in eye-shot.
Software like: Barrier  an open source alternative for the nowadays way too expensive Synergy  can be used to share keyboard/mouse/clipboard controls between computers that use these software.

Your main computer acts as the server, the others as clients. When the software is enabled, you can use one and the same keyboard/mouse to control all the connected computers. And yes, you can hook up Windows, Macs and Linux computers all together like this.

If you have the hardware laying around, it is an easy download/configuration and test to see if a dual monitor setup is for you, without spending any extra money. And if you are impressed by what such a setup helps you forward, fitting a second monitor to one computer is even better.

[Deozaan]

This comes built-in to Windows 10. Just press Win+Tab or click on the Task Views icon (if you have it enabled) near the start bar. Then click the New Desktop button at the top left.

[brotherS]

Yeah, I've considered going multi-monitor in the past, but couldn't justify it (yet?): hardware cost, desk space, energy usage...

This comes built-in to Windows 10. Just press Win+Tab or click on the Task Views icon (if you have it enabled) near the start bar. Then click the New Desktop button at the top left.

-Deozaan (October 24, 2020, 09:22 PM)

I should have mentioned that I already discovered that. Yes, having that is helpful, but I was looking for more.

If you are a AutoHotkey user: if you google around a bit you can find quite a few scripts to help manage the Windows 10 desktops, just found this for example so you can use hotkeys to switch desktops - https://www.computer....com/tips/tip224.htm - (haven't tried it so it may no longer work correctly if something has changed).

-Lintalist (October 24, 2020, 04:18 PM)

Thanks, that sounds promising!

So, unless you absolutely must have only one monitor on your desk, spend money on a new or second hand monitor. You'll get for the price of software license a second hand monitor. Doesn't have to be the same size or resolution either.
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There is an alternative way of seeing/testing if a second monitor is for you or not. This does require a separate computer or laptop on the same LAN network next to each other. Or at least in eye-shot.
Software like: Barrier  an open source alternative for the nowadays way too expensive Synergy  can be used to share keyboard/mouse/clipboard controls between computers that use these software.

Your main computer acts as the server, the others as clients. When the software is enabled, you can use one and the same keyboard/mouse to control all the connected computers.

-Shades (October 24, 2020, 08:12 PM)

That sounds VERY interesting, I should try this!

[4wd]

Yeah, I've considered going multi-monitor in the past, but couldn't justify it (yet?): hardware cost, desk space, energy usage...

-brotherS (October 25, 2020, 05:36 AM)

Normally don't even have to buy them if you're happy with monitors that are a few years old, I've been given monitors that are left over from upgrades that still work perfectly well.  They might not be FHD but they're still useful, don't even have them turned on most of the time.