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Last post Author Topic: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)  (Read 322382 times)

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #725 on: September 23, 2020, 01:14 AM »
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #726 on: September 23, 2020, 07:56 AM »
Don't know which weather service provides your other temperature read-out, but the one in sWeather uses Yahoo! (and its affiliated weather service).

With such different read-outs, it is safe to assume these are different. Which implies that they process weather data differently. Then there is difference in available data. Yahoo! is likely using weather satellites that keep track of weather in the US and rely on data from other weather agencies that cover different regions on the globe.

Is the discrepancy between read-out too large for comfort? Yes it is. But explainable, once you don't want to know about temperature read-outs in the US. AccuWeather is what my phone uses here in South-America, where I live. I found that to be a much more reliable source than Yahoo!, but AccuWeather charges quite some money to provide data through their API. Yahoo! doesn't. As sWeather is provided to you at no cost, you can't expect the author to pay for API access to one (or more, for averaging read-outs) weather service.

As far as I know, sWeather had to change to Yahoo!, because other weather services were charging too much or put limitations on API callls, which would make sWeather unreliable for everyone. Now it can be unreliable for people outside of the US, because of Yahoo!'s sub-par quality of weather data outside the US. And as the US is the main "market" for sWeather, I can understand and appreciate the choice for Yahoo! as weather data provider.

Besides all this, there is also the matter of weather satellites. Most of these were shot into orbit 15 to 20 years ago. Of those, many are starting to wear out, but there are not enough new satellites being made to replace whatever capacity is already there. Weather data quality is becoming more of an issue each new day. Weather data algorithms have gotten better since then, so that makes up a bit for loss of measuring devices. 

Lots of words to explain that what the weather data you get from Yahoo! is nothing more than "best effort" when asking for temperature read-outs outside the US.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #727 on: September 23, 2020, 07:59 AM »
I've just tested this beauty, Europe/Germany/Berlin, works perfect with Yahoo Data.

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Seems to be Not Getting Data
« Reply #728 on: January 22, 2021, 10:41 AM »
Hi...

I'm using v1.8.2b1 on a Win10 Pro machine. I remember a year or two ago Yahoo changed their API and sWeather stopped pulling data. I don't know if the API has changed again, but the data hasn't changed for two cities for the past two days. I have exited and relaunched sWeather multiple times and I have also rebooted the PC a few times. Still not updating.

Is anyone else seeing this?

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #729 on: January 23, 2021, 10:23 AM »
I'm using v1.8.2b1 on a Win10 Pro machine. I remember a year or two ago Yahoo changed their API and sWeather stopped pulling data. I don't know if the API has changed again, but the data hasn't changed for two cities for the past two days. I have exited and relaunched sWeather multiple times and I have also rebooted the PC a few times. Still not updating.

https://developer.yahoo.com/

Yahoo! are shutting down their free weather API, which sWeather uses for its data. Unless I find another free weather API to use, sWeather will stop working. The problem is that all the free ones I've researched are extremely limited in 1) number of API hits per day and/or 2) the weather data that the free tier offers.  I already pay out of pocket yearly for a few other APIs for some of my others apps, so I'm not relishing the idea of paying for yet another one.


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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #730 on: January 23, 2021, 12:57 PM »
I'm not sure if this is of any value but OpenWeatherMap.org appears free for the sort of volumes I imagine sweather generates. Apologies if I've accidentally repeated a previous suggestion.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #731 on: January 23, 2021, 01:12 PM »
I'm not sure if this is of any value but OpenWeatherMap.org appears free for the sort of volumes I imagine sweather generates. Apologies if I've accidentally repeated a previous suggestion.

Thank you, and, yep, that's one of the ones I'm looking at.   :)

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #732 on: January 23, 2021, 05:30 PM »
Yahoo! are shutting down their free weather API, which sWeather uses for its data. Unless I find another free weather API to use, sWeather will stop working. The problem is that all the free ones I've researched are extremely limited in 1) number of API hits per day and/or 2) the weather data that the free tier offers.  I already pay out of pocket yearly for a few other APIs for some of my others apps, so I'm not relishing the idea of paying for yet another one.
Thanks for the explanation. I'd be sorry to see sWeather go, but I certainly can understand your not wanting this to cost you more money. Have you considered accepting PayPal donations?

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #733 on: January 23, 2021, 05:37 PM »
Thanks for the explanation. I'd be sorry to see sWeather go, but I certainly can understand your not wanting this to cost you more money.

sWeather is one of the few apps I wrote for myself, as opposed to a coding request.  I still use it daily, so I plan to make it work with one of the APIs out there.

Have you considered accepting PayPal donations?

https://www.dcmembers.com/skwire/donate/