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Last post Author Topic: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)  (Read 471257 times)

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #450 on: May 30, 2016, 11:15 AM »
Hi, armus2112, and welcome to the DonationCoder site.   :Thmbsup:

See screenshot, I have the Refresh Time set to 15 min. I would expect the 'Updated:' to reflect a time within the last 15 minutes, but I am not seeing this. 'Updated' is showing a value over an hour old.

There are two timers at play here: 1) sWeather's and 2) Yahoo!'s.  sWeather reports the time that the Yahoo! Weather API reports and Yahoo! appear to update their results only hourly (as best I can tell).  Switching weather APIs is really not an option as the majority of the good ones are not free anymore and their cost is well outside the amount of donations I get for sWeather.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #451 on: May 30, 2016, 04:04 PM »
Thanks for the reply. Just a suggestion, add something like this:

'Last provider update: Mon 30 May 2016 12:05 PM EDT'

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #452 on: May 30, 2016, 06:36 PM »
Thanks, I'll change that in the next update.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #453 on: June 10, 2016, 04:12 PM »
Is anyone having trouble with both the temp and condition automatically showing in the tray at logon? I have set both as 'Show icon and notifications' in Windows 7. Click "OK" in the Windows 'Customize' dialog. Log out. Login. Only the Temp icon shows. I obviously want both icons to show at logon time. Not sure if my Windows 7 is to blame here ?

EDIT: My screenshot of the 'Customize' setting is showing the settings after I had set both as 'Show icon and notifications' and saved those settings, then I logged out, logged in and visited the settings again, and the Conditions icon reverted to 'Only show notifications'. It does not save. Same happens in a fresh Win7 install in Virtual Box. Sorry for the confusion there.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #454 on: June 10, 2016, 04:31 PM »
Is anyone having trouble with both the temp and condition automatically showing in the tray at logon? I have set both as 'Show icon and notifications' in Windows 7. Click "OK" in the Windows 'Customize' dialog. Log out. Login. Only the Temp icon shows. I obviously want both icons to show at logon time. Not sure if my Windows 7 is to blame here ?
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Your screenshot shows that one is set to only show notifications, the other is set to always show the icon and notifications.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #455 on: June 10, 2016, 04:48 PM »
Not sure if my Windows 7 is to blame here ?

Unfortunately, when it comes to programming around the Windows system tray, this can be an absolute exercise in frustration.  One of the first things I do with my Windows 7 systems is turn off that auto-hide feature.  That is, I enable the "Always show all icons and notifications on the taskbar" option.  I realise this doesn't help you much but, to manage tray icons, I use PS Tray Factory instead.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #456 on: June 10, 2016, 05:01 PM »
Hi Skwire.

I just installed the latest version of sWeather in a fresh virtual Windows 7 machine. The same behavior is exhibited there. The Condition tray icon doesn't retain it's 'Show icon and Notifications' setting. The temperature icon sticks just fine.

I hope this is fixable :) I'm not sure if this is any incentive for you, but I'm willing to donate a decent amount  :Thmbsup:


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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #457 on: June 10, 2016, 07:09 PM »
I hope this is fixable

The problem is that I do not know how to fix it.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #458 on: June 12, 2016, 02:30 PM »
I have provided a short video showing the behavior of Weather Watcher Live. In the Windows 7 Notification Customize settings, you can see that there are 2 entries , one for temp, one for condition. Upon changing the setting for one, the setting for the other changes to the same setting. With sWeather, they are treated separately. Maybe this can help you. Maybe they are using a trick to register two notification icons with the same attributes somehow (I'm a developer, but not Windows).

https://youtu.be/yYXroVGfUj0

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #459 on: June 27, 2016, 02:54 AM »
Hi Skwire.

I just installed the latest version of sWeather in a fresh virtual Windows 7 machine. The same behavior is exhibited there. The Condition tray icon doesn't retain it's 'Show icon and Notifications' setting. The temperature icon sticks just fine.

I hope this is fixable :) I'm not sure if this is any incentive for you, but I'm willing to donate a decent amount  :Thmbsup:
I am running Win 7 64bit and do not have this issue.
Both icons STAY showing in tray for me.
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #460 on: June 27, 2016, 03:01 AM »
unfortunately the temperature numbers in system tray are just that little bit too small. I checked the images folder and see that there IS room to have slightly bigger numbers as images.
Does anyone know where I can find another more readable set?
I searched to no avail.

Appreciated.
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #461 on: June 28, 2016, 03:42 PM »
I am running Win 7 64bit and do not have this issue.
Both icons STAY showing in tray for me.

You're saying that between logout/login and reboots, BOTH tray icons are appearing for you?

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #462 on: June 28, 2016, 04:52 PM »
armus2112 I apologise.
I see now after reboot same issue.
I don't reboot very often so hadn't noticed that.
:-(
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #463 on: June 28, 2016, 05:23 PM »
Website | Download
v1.6.7 - 2016-06-28
    + Added an "Add location" button to the Options dialog.
    + Added four new larger tray temperature themes:
        + Simple Black Large
        + Simple Black Large (Filled)
        + Simple White Large
        + Simple White Large (Filled)


The new tray temperature themes are as basic as it gets. If you want fancier, you'll have to make them yourself.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #464 on: June 29, 2016, 02:20 AM »
Greatly appreciated!
Is there anywhere else I can find more?
What would I search for?
Tried lots including "weather tray temperature numeral font image set" with no joy.
Thanks again
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #465 on: June 29, 2016, 08:27 AM »
Is there anywhere else I can find more?

AFAIK, there are none.  Over the years, a couple of user-created themes have been created (Celsius by Zormi and Minicat by Minicat) but I already include those in the download.  If you end up making a theme, send it to me and I'll include it as well.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #466 on: June 29, 2016, 10:18 PM »
bugger.
I wouldn't know where to start unfort.
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #467 on: June 30, 2016, 12:10 AM »
I wouldn't know where to start unfort.

Here's a high-level tutorial:

  • Definitely start with a good icon editor.  Personally, I use Greenfish Icon Editor Pro.  Another good one is IcoFX but this software changed from freeware to shareware after version 1.6.4.  You can still find v1.6.4 here on the LFV site: http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/page40.html#IcoFX
  • Make a copy of an existing tray temperature theme into a new folder named whatever you want.  Note that the folder name is what will show up in sWeather's options dialog.
  • Open sWeather's options dialog and switch to the tray temperature theme name you just created.
  • Use your icon editor to open one of the .ICO files within that folder...preferably one near whatever your current temperature is.  Have a play around messing with that .ICO file in the editor.  For the most part, it will be like playing with a basic paint program.  Change the colours, create a new font numeral, etc.  When satisfied, save and overwrite the current .ICO file.
  • Bring up sWeather and press F4.  This will display the "Change the weather!?" dialog.  Use the arrow buttons at the bottom to change the temperature to the same degree as the file you modified.  With any luck, you should see your newly modified icon appear in the tray.
  • Carry on with the other remaining 199 .ICO files.   :P

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #468 on: June 30, 2016, 01:13 AM »
haha im gunna have a go.
How do I get the numbers to be same centred position for each number especially when you have a minus symbol?
I'm just adding numbers as text straight from the keyboard rather than paint each one..will that work?
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #469 on: June 30, 2016, 01:36 AM »
Actually I see on your default white that they are not all in same position so thats not so important?
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #470 on: June 30, 2016, 10:20 AM »
haha im gunna have a go.
How do I get the numbers to be same centred position for each number especially when you have a minus symbol?
I'm just adding numbers as text straight from the keyboard rather than paint each one..will that work?
Actually I see on your default white that they are not all in same position so thats not so important?

Correct, you can make each icon look however you like.

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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #471 on: June 30, 2016, 07:13 PM »
Whooohoo!
Done.
Did Aust version Celcius only as rest not needed...
Now I can read it!!
Lol
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #472 on: June 30, 2016, 07:14 PM »
and a pic of the size in the tray on win 7...
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #473 on: June 30, 2016, 07:18 PM »
I noticed that sometimes the weather has not been updated for 2 hrs or more. This is prob the supplier. You mentioned you were thinking of changing to another weather supplier in a thread I read?
It would be great if you could have an option to choose providers, say 5 options in different locals eg one closer to Aust would be great such as Bom (http://www.bom.gov.a...asts/melbourne.shtml) which is the most accurate for Aust.

Just an idea that has prob been suggested before..
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Re: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)
« Reply #474 on: July 01, 2016, 12:25 AM »
Done.
Did Aust version Celcius only as rest not needed...
Now I can read it!!

Very cool.  Do you mind if I include this with the next update?

I noticed that sometimes the weather has not been updated for 2 hrs or more. This is prob the supplier. You mentioned you were thinking of changing to another weather supplier in a thread I read?

Yes, this is a Yahoo! Weather issue and there is nothing I can really do about it.  As for other providers, none of them are free (or their free tier is severely limited) so that's not an option anymore.