topbanner_forum
  *

avatar image

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
  • Friday December 6, 2024, 7:01 am
  • Proudly celebrating 15+ years online.
  • Donate now to become a lifetime supporting member of the site and get a non-expiring license key for all of our programs.
  • donate

Author Topic: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ  (Read 6735 times)

xtabber

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2007
  • **
  • Posts: 618
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« on: December 04, 2016, 07:09 AM »
Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro is 50% off ($49.97) on BDJ today.

Paragon HDM Pro includes the functionality of nearly all of the various Paragon utilities in a single package - Backup/restore, cloning, OS migration, virtualization, disk & partition management, recovery media creation, etc...

tomos

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Posts: 11,964
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2016, 02:30 PM »
Anyone with expereince of P2V:
would I be able to create an image of my current install (Windows 7) and add it as a virtual machine to another machine, say when I move to a new one, say with Windows 10?
Tom

tomos

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Posts: 11,964
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2016, 04:31 PM »
BDJ seems to be broken :-/
Paypal button doesnt work in three different browsers.
Unable to login with facebook. I appear to have registered at some stage, somehow got logged in with no password, maybe lastpass did it, but have it setup to not login automatically. Weird.
Giving up (sleep calls / up early)
Tom

x16wda

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2007
  • **
  • Posts: 888
  • what am I doing in this handbasket?
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2016, 04:31 PM »
I have not actually done this, but that is one of the features they tout. I have had good success with Paragon software for years.
vi vi vi - editor of the beast

x16wda

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2007
  • **
  • Posts: 888
  • what am I doing in this handbasket?
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2016, 04:32 PM »
Tomos - I had to use Internet Explorer to get the link to work. Then I washed my hands. :P
vi vi vi - editor of the beast

tomos

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Posts: 11,964
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2016, 04:34 PM »
Tomos - I had to use Internet Explorer to get the link to work. Then I washed my hands. :P

hmm, thanks, unfortunately didnt work in IE, FF or PaleMoon here...
Never mind, got it working [user error :-[ ]
Tom

tomos

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Posts: 11,964
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2016, 04:44 PM »
Never mind, got it working [user error :-[ ]

it's one of those nights:
got the paypal button working, but now BDJ are insisting I give their password, with no option for reporting lost password.
Just ignore me ;-)

I give up -- I dont remember this being so difficult before (I've no login info in lastpass for BDJ), but it's late and I tired, and their 'or' choices are confusing.
Tom

mwb1100

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • Posts: 1,645
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2016, 11:32 PM »
Anyone with expereince of P2V:
would I be able to create an image of my current install (Windows 7) and add it as a virtual machine to another machine, say when I move to a new one, say with Windows 10?

It was long enough ago that I'm not sure what Windows versions were involved (though I can guarantee that the new host for the VM was not Win 8 or newer), so I'm not sure how relevant my experience would be today.  But I did this kind of thing and it worked well enough.  I think the machine I turned into a VM was a WinXP machine.  I am sure it didn't have GPT partitions, just MBR partitions.

Again - it was long enough ago that I wouldn't feel right saying you'll have no problems. But it did work for me.

I'm sure that it goes without saying that you should not decommission the old machine until you've verified that things are working...



tomos

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Posts: 11,964
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2016, 11:59 PM »
Anyone with expereince of P2V:
would I be able to create an image of my current install (Windows 7) and add it as a virtual machine to another machine, say when I move to a new one, say with Windows 10?

It was long enough ago that I'm not sure what Windows versions were involved (though I can guarantee that the new host for the VM was not Win 8 or newer), so I'm not sure how relevant my experience would be today.  But I did this kind of thing and it worked well enough.  I think the machine I turned into a VM was a WinXP machine.  I am sure it didn't have GPT partitions, just MBR partitions.

Again - it was long enough ago that I wouldn't feel right saying you'll have no problems. But it did work for me.

I'm sure that it goes without saying that you should not decommission the old machine until you've verified that things are working...

thanks :up:

I invested in the end:
machine getting older, windows 7 still running very well though, with some very old software. So the P2V might be worth a try at some stage.
Tom

4wd

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • Posts: 5,644
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2016, 12:10 AM »
Probably means a new version is about to come, usually happens just outside the 3 month free upgrade period they give  :P

xtabber

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2007
  • **
  • Posts: 618
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2016, 07:10 AM »
Anyone with expereince of P2V:
would I be able to create an image of my current install (Windows 7) and add it as a virtual machine to another machine, say when I move to a new one, say with Windows 10?
I did just that this past summer, when an intermittent motherboard problem forced me to replace my primary desktop system before I had planned to. Win7 Pro 64-bit to a VMware virtual machine. The whole process was point & click simple and worked the first time without a hitch.  I didn't even have to reactivate Windows in the VM, although that could be a fluke. My only complaint is that it didn't have an option for a split file VM, which I prefer for portability.

This is not the first time I have done a P2V with Paragon HDM Pro -- a few years ago, I converted my last working XP system to a VM, which I still use occasionally for some older software, but I was still surprised at how easy the whole process has become in the current version of HDM Pro.

A few years ago, Paragon changed their backup file format to a proprietary compressible virtual machine, which HDM PRo can convert to any of the virtual machine formats they support. That means that, if you regularly back up your system by imaging the system partition with Paragon software and save the backup files, you can, in theory, always resurrect a dead system or a previous version to a working VM in any of those virtualization environments.  I haven't tried the other VM formats, but I know from personal experience that this works very well with VMware Workstation.

Shades

  • Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • Posts: 2,939
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2016, 09:01 AM »
VMware used to have software that converts your physical system to a virtual one. And they offered it for free. I remember using it successfully to convert my own XP machine this way. At the time they also offered software to convert a virtual system to a physical system too.

As I am too lazy to look, I assume VMware still offers these software packages. Not sure if it would still be freeware though. In any case, if doing such conversions is your goal, it is usually a safe(r) bet to use the software from VMware to convert to a VMware virtual machine. After all, VMware knows its own software best...

Oracle's VirtualBox software doesn't have this option as far as I know (again, to lazy to look myself). Perhaps QuEmu supports conversion too.

tomos

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Posts: 11,964
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Paragon Hard Disk Manager Pro 50% off at BDJ
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2016, 11:44 AM »
. . . an intermittent motherboard problem forced me to replace my primary desktop system before I had planned to. Win7 Pro 64-bit to a VMware virtual machine. The whole process was point & click simple and worked the first time without a hitch.  I didn't even have to reactivate Windows in the VM, although that could be a fluke. My only complaint is that it didn't have an option for a split file VM, which I prefer for portability.

This is not the first time I have done a P2V with Paragon HDM Pro -- a few years ago, I converted my last working XP system to a VM, which I still use occasionally for some older software, but I was still surprised at how easy the whole process has become in the current version of HDM Pro.

A few years ago, Paragon changed their backup file format to a proprietary compressible virtual machine, which HDM PRo can convert to any of the virtual machine formats they support. That means that, if you regularly back up your system by imaging the system partition with Paragon software and save the backup files, you can, in theory, always resurrect a dead system or a previous version to a working VM in any of those virtualization environments.
thanks for that
sounds good :up:


Probably means a new version is about to come, usually happens just outside the 3 month free upgrade period they give  :P
so it'll probably be full price or more in the end. How to get hooked in... :-\
Tom