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Author Topic: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg  (Read 13252 times)

Steven Avery

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Hi,

When you try to use the file managers, Total Commander, Free Commander, Xplorer2, Xyplorer to do large moves or copies (say from one tape backup to another) it is very hard to get a true "unattended" mode.  You keep hitting hidden files, +or write-protected, or overly long file names, or UAC stuff, and although some items get a "skip all" you never can quite get unattended. And each program glitches out different and has totally different speeds.

In this mode, you just want:

 "move as much as you can, I'll worry about the leftover later"

Maybe some of the file copy/synchronizer tools have this right?  Your recommendations?

Steven

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 05:26 AM »
Supercopier can be configured to have defaults as you need.
So should be Teracopy, but I didn't try the second one.

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 05:30 AM »
Supercopier can be configured to have defaults as you need.
So should be Teracopy, but I didn't try the second one.
I used Supercopier 2b for years and appreciated that feature. I think version 3 is the one to get, and it works fine in Win 8 64-bit and older. Someone new took it over in version 4, and is merging it into UltraCopier I think; I believe the licensing changed as well as the interface.
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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 05:45 AM »
http://www.ghisler.com/history850.txt

19.02.14 Release Total Commander 8.50 final (32/64)
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10.03.13 Added: F5 copy: First copy all files where the user doesn't need to be asked and skip all with errors, ask at the end (32/64)
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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 06:21 AM »
Directory Opus 10:

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 07:03 AM »
Hi,

Great answers, guys (more suggestions welcome). I have a license for Total Commander, and
they have a great license  policy, so I will start there.

Sometimes TC seems a lot slower heads-down on copying that the alternatives, although again,
there may be some special or alternative modes. Any thoughts on that aspect as well?

From what I could tell, some copy programs work more directly with the OS copy command, others
go around it with their own tweaking?

Incidentally the long file names comes out of some .jpgs and such that are email attachments, which
in Eudora are a separate disk file.

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I had some backup externals that were not able to be read by Windows 7, they were from the XP
days. One goal is to empty the data off any such disk (copy to a really big backup external) and
attempt to format in Windows 7, using the format command from a partition program. (These externals
are seen by the OS but not assigned a drive letter, and the manufacturers want them to be orphaned.)
So far, so good, the first one took fine.  In such a case you can easily want to move 100 Gb in the
background or when away.
one worked.

Steven
« Last Edit: March 03, 2014, 07:11 AM by Steven Avery »

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2014, 07:21 AM »

Sometimes TC seems a lot slower heads-down on copying that the alternatives, although again,
there may be some special or alternative modes. Any thoughts on that aspect as well?

-Steven Avery (March 03, 2014, 07:03 AM)

I don't really know. Me thinks, I just don't really care on this.


But there are settings:

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Help > Operations > Menus > Menu configuration - Options > Copy/Delete

      Copy method (for experts only!)
      This section allows to change the copy method
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More via search in the TC forum (as I said, I don't really care, so I have less experiences)

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2014, 10:05 AM »
For XYplorer you can configure it to use a 'custom copy' handler so it doesn't use the Windows shell:

    Tools/Configure/File Operations - check "Use Custom Copy"
   
Then click the "Configure..." button and there are several settings on how to handle various problems. Depending on exactly how you want it to work, you might need to change:

  - On name collisions
  - On failures
  - Verification
  - Rename folders on collision
  - Ask before overwriting read-only files
 
You can also configure XYplorer to use FastCopy or TeraCopy - see the help for Tools/Configure/File Operations/External Copy handlers.

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 11:15 PM »
 ;) :(
Supercopier can be configured to have defaults as you need.
So should be Teracopy, but I didn't try the second one.
I used Supercopier 2b for years and appreciated that feature. I think version 3 is the one to get, and it works fine in Win 8 64-bit and older. Someone new took it over in version 4, and is merging it into UltraCopier I think; I believe the licensing changed as well as the interface.

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 11:16 PM »
 :up:The best solution for your problem is to use Long Path Tool!!!

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 01:29 AM »
Teracopy works marvelously when copying files from one computer to another over a LAN. That is where it really shines (in my opinion). I noticed it was (much) faster while more secure than copying with explorer or Directory Opus (likely also faster as the other file managers mentioned earlier in this thread, but as I only know of them I cannot say anything good or bad). 

It would also show you which files were copied ok (by checking hash codes of the original and the copy). It would even allow you a new attempt of copying only the failed files. Honestly, I didn't keep up with it anymore though. With gigabit LAN's there isn't much speed to be gained anymore and most file mangers have improved their copying routines. Hell, even explorer isn't that much of a drag anymore.

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Re: unattended large file copies that will not prompt for msg
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 07:53 AM »
RichCopy isn't a file manager but it's free and has many options.  Is is multithreaded and designed for bulk file copying.  To be honest I only used it to copy a Windows.old folder as TeraCopy does enough for me.  But it handled Windows.old copy to a networked drive smoothly(around 260,000 file objects.)

Good for the toolbox even if not perfect for this application.

The link is to an article which contains the download link.

Edit: It extracts to a folder, HoffmanUtilitySpotlight, and from there you run the setup.