Author Topic: Some shortcut keys don't work anymore. (Read 20850 times)

Armando · « **on:** June 25, 2011, 05:07 PM »

It might be something in my setup -- as nobody complained -- but :

- Ctrl+Left or Alt+Left, Ctrl+Right or Alt+Right, to either delete last word/subdir OR autocomplete, doesn't work anymore
- Also, Ctrl+Shift+Left Ctrl+Shift+Right, for word selection don't work either.

... They used to work and noticed they didn't a few days go. My cursor just moves from left to right or the reverse.

Any ideas ?

Thanks.

mouser · « **Reply #1 on:** June 25, 2011, 07:16 PM »

i may have broken some things in adding standard hotkeys for alt+left+right.

ctrl+Backspace is for deleting the last word, tab should autocomplete.

can others chime in here?

cranioscopical · « **Reply #2 on:** June 25, 2011, 07:22 PM »

can others chime in here?
-mouser (June 25, 2011, 07:16 PM)

I never use these key combinations but ...
+1 What Armando said

(CRL-SHIFT-LEFT or RIGHT jumps by word but doesn't select)

TAB and CTRL-BACKSPACE work as you say, mouser.

Armando · « **Reply #3 on:** June 25, 2011, 10:56 PM »

i may have broken some things in adding standard hotkeys for alt+left+right.

ctrl+Backspace is for deleting the last word, tab should autocomplete.

can others chime in here?
-mouser (June 25, 2011, 07:16 PM)

Thanks Chris and mouser. Yes, I should've mentioned that ctrl+Backspace and tab still work. It's the other key combinations that don't.

(Just to restate: I used to use alt+left/right to delete/autocomplete and those don't work anymore. And as cranio said, "Ctrl+Shift-LEFT or RIGHT jumps by word but doesn't select".)

mouser · « **Reply #4 on:** June 25, 2011, 10:59 PM »

the question is.. do they need to be made to select?

Armando · « **Reply #5 on:** June 25, 2011, 11:13 PM »

it's pretty much a standard behaviour in modern text processors and one expects it, so they probably should...
At the same time, if they don't, it's not a big deal : ctrl+backspace allows one to obtain the same results + quicker : delete full words. Full words selection in farr is probably mostly used for deletion/substitution, but some might use it in cut/copy/paste operations... [Edit: that said... I don't know ! The only thing I know is that I tend to expect it...)

ewemoa · « **Reply #6 on:** June 26, 2011, 03:56 AM »

- Ctrl+Left or Alt+Left, Ctrl+Right or Alt+Right, to either delete last word/subdir OR autocomplete, doesn't work anymore
-Armando (June 25, 2011, 05:07 PM)

Hmmm...I thought Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right were for move cursor to beginning of previous word / next word. That's what I'd expect, though I'm not sure what they used to do.

I'm not sure what Alt+Left and Alt+Right did previously. FWIW, these don't seem to do anything for me in Notepad or Wordpad. In Internet Explorer's location field, they seem to lead to the backward / forward page behavior.

- Also, Ctrl+Shift+Left Ctrl+Shift+Right, for word selection don't work either.
-Armando

Confirmed here that they don't work for selection -- just lead to motion. My expectation for them would be to select what would be deleted by Ctrl+Backspace / Ctrl+Delete respectively.

jgpaiva · « **Reply #7 on:** June 26, 2011, 05:44 AM »

the question is.. do they need to be made to select?
-mouser (June 25, 2011, 10:59 PM)

As a computer user, I'd say yes. I expect these shortcuts to work in all programs and I'm very used to using them. Even in mac, it was one of the first shortcuts I've learned to use and I really miss them when working in the console and in vim.

skajfes · « **Reply #8 on:** June 26, 2011, 08:17 AM »

I am not sure what Alt-Left should do, but as in text editors - ctrl + left or right should move the cursor one word forward or back. ctrl + shift + left or right should move the cursor one word forward or back and select the text. ctrl + backspace should delete the word left of the cursor, and ctrl+delete should delete the word after the cursor.

I would also like to note that FARR interprets croatian characters "šđčćž" as word separators. However, it is not that big of a deal for me as I don't use those characters in filenames or application names.

Armando · « **Reply #9 on:** June 26, 2011, 01:25 PM »

- Ctrl+Left or Alt+Left, Ctrl+Right or Alt+Right, to either delete last word/subdir OR autocomplete, doesn't work anymore
-Armando (June 25, 2011, 05:07 PM)
Hmmm...I thought Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right were for move cursor to beginning of previous word / next word. That's what I'd expect, though I'm not sure what they used to do.

I'm not sure what Alt+Left and Alt+Right did previously. FWIW, these don't seem to do anything for me in Notepad or Wordpad. In Internet Explorer's location field, they seem to lead to the backward / forward page behavior.
-ewemoa (June 26, 2011, 03:56 AM)

Just to clarify, this is from the farr help file:

Ctrl+Left or Alt+Left, Ctrl+Backspace
Delete last word (or subdir) in search edit box

Tab or Ctrl+Right or Alt+Right
Autocomplete subdirectory in search edit box

ewemoa · « **Reply #10 on:** June 26, 2011, 05:25 PM »

Just to clarify, this is from the farr help file:

Ctrl+Left or Alt+Left, Ctrl+Backspace
Delete last word (or subdir) in search edit box

Tab or Ctrl+Right or Alt+Right
Autocomplete subdirectory in search edit box
-Armando (June 26, 2011, 01:25 PM)

Aha, in Advanced Use -> Hotkey and Shortcut Summary! Thanks for pointing this out

My updated preference / vote:

Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right should navigate to previous / next beginning of word boundaries
Alt+Left / Alt+Right -- previous behavior / documented behavior (I don't think there's some common behavior in other apps for these)
Cttrl+Backspace / Ctrl+Delete should delete to previous / next beginning of word boundaries

Armando · « **Reply #11 on:** June 26, 2011, 05:42 PM »

Thanks for that summary. I agree with those preferences.
And let's not forget that too:

Ctrl+Shift+left, Ctrl+Shift+Right : move the cursor one word forward/back and select the text

ewemoa · « **Reply #12 on:** June 26, 2011, 06:01 PM »

Thanks for the reminder

Own updated preference summary is now:

Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right - navigate to closest left / right "beginning of word" boundary
Ctrl+Shift+Left / Ctrl+Shift+Right - select from initial cursor position to closest left / right "beginning of word" AND navigate to the corresponding spot that Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right would
Ctrl+Backspace / Ctrl+Delete - removal of text between initial cursor position and closest left / right "beginning of word" boundary
Alt+Left / Alt+Right - previous / documented behavior

Nod5 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2011, 03:55 PM »

Consider adding this old request to the list:
Ctrl+Enter - launch selected (or first result if inputbox has focus) and stay open.
https://www.donation...ex.php?topic=11791.0

phitsc · « **Reply #14 on:** November 15, 2011, 01:49 AM »

I'd also like to add my vote for Ctrl + Shift + Left / Right making a selection. I find the fact that FARR doesn't do that very confusing.

Please also note that the "word boundary algorithm" allows for some improvement. As it seems, non-English characters (like äöü) are considered to be word boundary characters.

ewemoa · « **Reply #15 on:** November 15, 2011, 03:02 AM »

I hope you meant Ctrl + Shift + Left / Right

phitsc · « **Reply #16 on:** November 15, 2011, 04:35 AM »

I hope you meant Ctrl + Shift + Left / Right
-ewemoa (November 15, 2011, 03:02 AM)

I did indeed! Thanks for the heads up.

Corrected in above post.

Armando · « **Reply #17 on:** November 15, 2011, 12:12 PM »

+1...

Armando · « **Reply #18 on:** November 24, 2011, 05:51 PM »

Mouser : I just can't get use to that strange behaviour : shift+L/R arrows selects, ctrl+shift+ L/R arrows doesn't... I found that I don't use them only to delete, but to select and copy. Can we expect to get this fixed in the next release ? It would be great. Thanks.

ewemoa · « **Reply #19 on:** December 02, 2011, 09:58 PM »

Consider adding this old request to the list:
Ctrl+Enter - launch selected (or first result if inputbox has focus) and stay open.
https://www.donation...ex.php?topic=11791.0
-Nod5 (July 01, 2011, 03:55 PM)

As a recent convert to using Ctrl+# on a keyboard with no numeric key pad, I can appreciate this feature request more.

+1

phitsc · « **Reply #20 on:** September 26, 2012, 05:13 AM »

I hope you don't mind me bumping this thread.

Is there a reason why Ctrl + Shift + Left / Right should *not* also do a selection?

Please also consider fixing the word-boundary bug I report above.

mouser · « **Reply #21 on:** April 20, 2015, 10:38 AM »

Let me have another look..

tomos · « **Reply #22 on:** May 29, 2015, 12:25 PM »

I'd also like to add my vote for Ctrl + Shift + Left / Right making a selection. I find the fact that FARR doesn't do that very confusing.
-phitsc (November 15, 2011, 01:49 AM)

a big +1 here

mouser · « **Reply #23 on:** May 30, 2015, 07:06 AM »

Ok ok I'll fix. I've been away from pc for most of last couple of weeks but im going to be back to DonationCoder focus full time by middle of june, so I can catch up on some of these issues.

IainB · « **Reply #24 on:** May 30, 2015, 08:47 AM »

I don't want to expand the work effort that may be required here, but it seems to me the issue (as above) might not be just whether FARR supports the Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right when making a selection, but to confirm whether FARR and its plugins are intended to consistently support standard Windows behaviour in any/all text selection, text navigation and text manipulation key combinations.
This could include, for example:

Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right - for making a text selection (currently not supported in FARR).
Ctrl+Left/Right - for skipping back/forward to the beginning of a preceding or following word (currently supported in FARR).
Ctrl+BackSpace/Delete - deletes preceding/following word (currently supported in FARR)