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ProcessTamer / Re: ideas for process tamer
« on: April 04, 2005, 12:11 AM »
another thing i was thinking of adding is to change the icon to be like a meter
showing overall cpu use.

so maybe something like a box that goes from green -> red for low to high overall cpu use
with some kind of indicator for when something is being tamed, like maybe a symbol inside the box, or red vs black border of the box.

what do you think?

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ProcessTamer / Re: Process Tamer 2 preview available to Members
« on: April 04, 2005, 12:09 AM »
new beta avail in members only
hopefully fixes the vampir cosmetics problem and the tooltip and about box should accurately report the tamed app in all cases.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FindAndRunRobot.exe with tray icon?
« on: April 03, 2005, 06:09 PM »
not a strange request at all - in fact this happened to me too, which is why i added esc keep to halt search.

i could add another hotkey too if esc is too strange.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FindAndRunRobot.exe with tray icon?
« on: April 03, 2005, 02:41 PM »
btw, find&run is going to get my attention and lots of new features added as soon as the process tamer 2 update is done, so keep the suggestions coming.

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ProcessTamer / Re: ideas for process tamer
« on: April 03, 2005, 02:20 PM »
i think i should be able to handle this situation properly in the new cpu usage calcualtion;
ill post later when i get the new calculation algorithm going.  shouldn't be a problem.

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ProcessTamer / Re: ideas for process tamer
« on: April 03, 2005, 12:47 PM »
thats a really interesting idea about excluding cpuidle from calculations..
i think it might be possible..

as i understand it, programs like cpuidle are used to reduce heat of cpu by taking up free processing cycles with a special cpu instruction.

so when your computer is doing nothing, cpuidle shows as using 100% of the cpu.
so of course you would want to set the rule for cpuidle to "ignore".

my question is, what happens when you have a process that is using tons of the cpu?
if you run the cpu easter test utility..
what does the PT2 cpu useage screen show? what does it say cpuidle is using? what does it say the cpu eater is using?


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Find And Run Robot / Re: FindAndRunRobot.exe with tray icon?
« on: April 03, 2005, 10:49 AM »
kfitting i think you are right, seems to be happening to me too.
ill try to fix in next version, though to tell the truth i cant really remember why i added the ability to save to different configuration file anyway  :-[


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i updated the section of the review on alternatives to more prominently mention check&get.

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if you tell me about a bug to fix and somehow i forget to give you credit in the help file when i fix it, please email me so i can correct it.

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offline explorer is very powerful;
the other top program i know about for this is Teleport Pro.

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ProcessTamer / Re: Process Tamer 2 preview available to Members
« on: April 02, 2005, 05:31 PM »
hahahaah - the cosmetics came back! ok, i must have pushed my luck with the spacing; i'll fix in next update, thx.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FindAndRunRobot.exe with tray icon?
« on: April 02, 2005, 05:30 PM »
thanks again, will be fixed in next release.

i really love these bug reports, can't tell you guys how much they help me  :-*
going to have to add some new smilies to express my appreciation  :-[

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great to thave some discussion here about the alternatives!

i'm afraid people will get the impression when reading the reviews that i'm doing an advert for a particular program.  it's true that in the reviews i'm doing now i'm picking programs i really feel strongly about, which accounts for some of the hyberbole, but i really do want people to know about the alternatives and go check them out and see for themselves what they like best.

Check&Get def. seems like the closest competitor to WSW (http://activeurls.com/en/)
I also found the UI a bit cluttered and distracting.  you can see some of the guidelines that i look for when considering user interfaces: https://www.donation...iews/uithoughts.html.

as ric was pointing out before, it would be useful for people if we would discuss (before the award when possible) specific features that are important and how the dif. programs stack up.

one thing that c&g seems to have that WSW doesn't is the ability to store some extra snapshots of past states of the webpage, for comparison later; could be useful in some special cases.

i don't think c&g can compare to wsw in terms of being able to specify match&ignore patterns which is critical to making such a tool work..

btw,
if/when we have a situation where a considerable # of people disagree with a review and like another program better, i would be willing to approach the author of the other program and convey this and ask them if they want to provide a discount to members, as a kind of counter-offer to you guys.

or actually, anyone who reads these forums is very welcome to contact other authors of competing products and tell them that they are very welcome to come here and post about their program and why they think we might have underestimated it's value, and tell them that they are very welcome to offer a discount to our members.  might be a really fun idea to have the competitor programs post in here - the more variety of opinions the better here in the forums.  maybe i will formulate an official email to send to companies of programs i've evaluated for a review expressing this.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: FindAndRunRobot.exe with tray icon?
« on: April 02, 2005, 02:51 PM »
good idea mario, i will add this to the help file in the next relase.

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ProcessTamer / Re: Discrepancy between GUI and tray
« on: April 02, 2005, 02:20 PM »
btw you can see the effects of the slider by watching the different between Instand and Average CPU readings.  the more to the left, the more AVG will rapidly track Instant.

draggin a window around the screen quickly will increase cpu usage temporarily and help to demonstrate differences.

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ProcessTamer / Re: Discrepancy between GUI and tray
« on: April 02, 2005, 02:18 PM »
ah ok, the tool tip in the tray seems to report the wrong programs sometimes; i am going to work on fixing the tooltip today.

thanks longrun.

looks like that log feature is helping out already :)

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agreed 100%.
i was surprised at how many tools do not have good support for this.


THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED AND LOCKED,
because the review is finished and the award was given out.

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ProcessTamer / Re: Process Tamer 2 preview available to Members
« on: April 01, 2005, 07:08 PM »
in case you have this problem again with another program and want to explain to the author what it is:

i use borland c++ builder for that big gui configuration tool.
Borland C++ Builder produces big bloated exe's (which is why i don't use it for the main tray tool), but it's nice for making gui stuff.

anyway, borland c++ builder and delphi share the same visual components.  And for forms, there is a property called "Scaled" and "PrintScale".  Setting these to "NONE" fixes the problem with objects on the form being relocated badly.  I remember i spent some days trying to fix this problem many years ago, and it just ocurred to me that it could be responsible for what you encountered.

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ProcessTamer / Re: Some test?
« on: April 01, 2005, 06:44 PM »
i have a new download for you to try vampiric, v2b8.
i'm experimenting with something that i remember having a similar effect.
if it works and i can fix it ill let you know what to tell other developers when you spot this program in their app.
check member section.

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ProcessTamer / Re: Some test?
« on: April 01, 2005, 06:22 PM »
i tried out process explorer - great free too, like other sysinternals tools.

however, this CPU Time is highly mysterious to me.
it doesnt make any sense to me really..

it told me after 4 hours that ProcessTamer had used 7 seconds of CPU Time, which is a bit different from your 3+ minute listing ;)

however it sure looks like its underestimating the use of other programs too.. so i dont know what to make of it...
couldn't find any info in help either.

one thing is also strange, you have a 1.92 in your CPU usage column for ProcessTamerTray; it should not be above 0 unless you are interacting with it, ie clicking on its menu,etc.  for me its always 0 (not shown) until i interact with it.

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ProcessTamer / Re: Process Tamer 2 preview available to Members
« on: April 01, 2005, 03:56 PM »
ok i will try to reproduce the text position bug and search for cause.

Do you have any idea what causes this behavior, or any clues to how other programs have fixed it?

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ProcessTamer / Re: Process Tamer 2 preview available to Members
« on: April 01, 2005, 01:10 PM »
thanks for the pictures vampiric, they help alot.
i've uploaded a new version, link in Members Only section,  it hoepfully fixes this problem.

The new download also fixes a more severe problem that longrun found, which was that Process Tamer was leaking a windows resource handle each time it changed the system tray icon.

All PT2 testers should install this new version to avoid the memory leak; sorry.

I have to say it is really wonderful having the help of you guys - I wish i could give you all a big hug :)

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ProcessTamer / Re: Some test?
« on: April 01, 2005, 12:59 PM »
i will check out process explorer; i have been using TaskInfo, another similar tool,
and i've never seen ProcessTamerTray register over 0%, and it shouldn't, unless perhaps you were creating a ton of new processes every second, which would be pretty bizzare.

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ProcessTamer / Re: Some test?
« on: April 01, 2005, 10:00 AM »
it's a good question re: cpu usage.
i've worked hard to make process tamer use as little resources as possible.
i know that it uses so little as to not show up on normal task managers %cpu usage, but didn't think of checking on accumulated cpu usage over time, which would be a more sensitive analysis.

what program did you use to calculate cpu usage over time?

i could add an option regulating the process time update rate, which could cut the usage in half at the cost of taking a little longer to detect bad processes, for those who are ultra concerned about cpu use.

another thing to point out, you can toggle process tamer on and off, from right click menu or from double-click if you so configure. when process tamer is toggled off, it skips all of its normal checks for process activity, and should use virtually 0 cpu cycles.

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