Income 4 Dummies

[IQLover]

Well this is not exactly about a software but what I found the other day on the Net simlply blew me away! 

I'm posting it here because it is a FREE eBook I found out there. If it doesn't match DC criteria, please feel free to delete my post (Admin)!

This guy - Jon Davies - wrote A Simple "Idiot Proof" System on how to make money on the Internet, without ever

- having a website
- joining any "Programs"
- having a product
- becoming an affiliate

Since I've read the FREE eBook (YESSS! -he is giving it away 4 FREE!!!)
I'd like to recommend it to the rest of the WORLD!

I hope this kind of post does not interfere with the rules here, since it would be a pitty
if others wouldn't have the chance to get this brilliant FREE eBook.

EDIT by Josh:

Changed all links to a fully visible link which takes you to www.income4dummies.com without the referral link.

In the future, if you post a referral link, dont post it behind a shorturl or url redirection service and please let others know that you are getting credit from this link so you aren't hiding anything and others dont become suspicious.

[tomos]

If it's free why doesn't it (the website) or you say anything about the content?
-
I mean what's in it as opposed to what's not in it...

[mouser]

I am always very suspicious of these kinds of things.  Clearly the point is to build a mailing list for future for-profit mailinings.  I don't know if he will be selling the email mailing list, and/or using it to sell other stuff, but seems clear this is not a site where someone is sharing information out of the goodness of their heart.  However I guess that doesn't necesarily mean it's a bad ebook..

Anyway, I'm moving this to the advertise your stuff section since it fits in better there than in the living room.

[f0dder]

Hm, the link itself is through one of those "short URL" services, so it's impossible to [directly] see if it has some referrer ID in it

No, I don't like these kinds of things at all. Money should be earned... not necessarily through hard work, but it should be earned, and not through scamming.

[Josh]

I would like to see the OP post the full URL as opposed to a shortened URL. If you are trying to get us to click a referral link, SAY SO, because many of the posts you have made include links which use a referral type link as well.

[jgpaiva]

The link does include a referral. (http://www.income4du...m/index.php?uid=1414).
Also, it's a scam. And an advertisement.

IMO, this thread should be deleted.

[Josh]

Yes, this should be deleted. Mousey?

[IQLover]

I would like to see the OP post the full URL as opposed to a shortened URL. If you are trying to get us to click a referral link, SAY SO, because many of the posts you have made include links which use a referral type link as well.

-Josh (July 22, 2007, 02:05 PM)

You obviously seem to HAVE a problem with Referrals/ Referral programms   If you had a bad experience with such Progs, that doesn' necesserally mean that all of them are crap, does it?

[IQLover]

Yes, this should be deleted. Mousey?

-Josh (July 22, 2007, 02:13 PM)

Yeah right, listen to the EXPERT! 

[IQLover]

The link does include a referral. (http://www.income4du...m/index.php?uid=1414).
Also, it's a scam. And an advertisement.

IMO, this thread should be deleted.

-jgpaiva (July 22, 2007, 02:12 PM)

WOW! Another expert among us? Since when is advertisement=SCAM? You're just proving to the Wolrd that Einstein WAS(!) right. 

[IQLover]

I am always very suspicious of these kinds of things.  Clearly the point is to build a mailing list for future for-profit mailinings.  I don't know if he will be selling the email mailing list, and/or using it to sell other stuff, but seems clear this is not a site where someone is sharing information out of the goodness of their heart.  However I guess that doesn't necesarily mean it's a bad ebook..

Anyway, I'm moving this to the advertise your stuff section since it fits in better there than in the living room.

-mouser (July 22, 2007, 01:34 PM)

@Mouser

Hi Mouser, as I wrote in my post I WAS NOT SURE if this is OK, so if it is NOT, as it seem 2 b for some 'experts' here, delete my thread; i DO NOT WANT to hurt anyones feelings. I just thaught it might be of interrest 4  some folks. OK, it's obviously not...

[jgpaiva]

IQLover: I usually get a bunch of mails in my e-mail selling me a bunch of stuff like viagra, other meds, stocks, etc. Those end up in the "spam" folder, because it's not-requested-for advertisement.
This is exactly the same case. Truth is, that the ebook is only a 21-page e-book, which has about 2 pages of real content and ends with "the product", which actually is a numerous collection of books for you to buy.

This is actually worse than posting that collection of books here, since you're making money for advertising them, money which you wouldn't get if you advertised the books directly.

[Josh]

I dont have a problem with the thread, the problem is that you have a referral link, so you are getting some sort of credit for it, and you dont make any mention of this. If you are getting something out of this, as is shown by the uid in this link, LET EVERYONE KNOW. Hiding things like this makes others weary of your post.

I have no problem with people making money by posting referrals, but let us know that is what this is and that you are requested to purchase something else in the end.

[mouser]

Ok, i think the points have been made well and i'll lock this thread for now.  As IQLover said himself, he wasn't sure if the post was appropriate and we can leave it here for now so people can see what the general consensus is about such things.  As Josh says, the real problem is not with announcing a for-profit thing, but rather with not making it clear the nature of the thing.