Author Topic: Appget - user-run software update program (Read 21702 times)

justice · « **on:** June 02, 2007, 11:28 AM »

Researching for automatic update programs, I found Appget (direct download) (site is in dutch, but program is in english -- so use the babelfish translation to read more).

It scans the system for installed program then submits this list and compares it to the lists other users have submitted. If other people are running a newer version then it will notify you. It's possible to ignore items like windows updates, report version comparison problems (right click), submit urls for up-to-date versions, and search the app using google.

The application works really well but only programs that are detected through the add/remove programs list are detected. Also it depends on enough people using it so updates are found. Apart from these minor niggles, it's worth a look!

The author is very reponsive and friendly, I have discussed features in the past and sent him a link to this topic.

Nighted · « **Reply #1 on:** June 02, 2007, 11:38 AM »

woah, I will check this out immediately! Nice find.

lanux128 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 02, 2007, 02:41 PM »

another program that is similar but still in beta - filehippo.com Update Checker.
https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=8142.0

jozydapozy · « **Reply #3 on:** June 02, 2007, 03:43 PM »

Nice! a topic about my own application

First of all I've to say that the date of version 0.5 is incorrect. It's from February 2007, not 2006.
I'm currently working on version 0.6 which will be released within the next few days. Comments and suggestions are more then welcome in this thread or on the website (www.appget.nl)

justice · « **Reply #4 on:** June 02, 2007, 03:48 PM »

another program that is similar but still in beta - filehippo.com Update Checker.
https://www.donation...dex.php?topic=8142.0
-lanux128 (June 02, 2007, 02:41 PM)

It is the same but it is different. FileHippo checks only applications that FileHippo provides for download, but always knows the real newest version. AppGet works with any application but depends on someone having the newest version installed.

Welcome to the forum jozydapozy, I was thinking maybe you could create a custom searchengine that queries the main download sites and change the "search" link to that page, you'd get better results. http://fileforum.betanews.com, filehippo, snapfiles.com, download.com that should probably cover most applications. In the customsearch you can choose just to mark these sites as most important, so not to exclude the rest of the net.

Also fileforum and filehippo (probably others) have an RSS feed where they announce their newest versions. if you could read in this data (xml) and update versions automatically that would be a major step forward.

mouser · « **Reply #5 on:** June 02, 2007, 09:39 PM »

welcome to the site jozy! glad to have you stop by

jozydapozy · « **Reply #6 on:** July 25, 2007, 06:42 PM »

Just wanna let you know there is a new version of Appget available.

You can download it from my website, or go here to view the release info.

mouser · « **Reply #7 on:** July 25, 2007, 06:47 PM »

Cool!

justice · « **Reply #8 on:** July 26, 2007, 03:50 AM »

Still getting a fatal error message when synchronizing:
http://www.screencast.com/t/HgFlSTy8

jozydapozy · « **Reply #9 on:** July 26, 2007, 04:06 AM »

Still getting a fatal error message when synchronizing:
http://www.screencast.com/t/HgFlSTy8
-justice (July 26, 2007, 03:50 AM)

Nice video. Could you run Appget with the parameter 'debug'? (start --> run --> "c:\program files\Appget\appget.exe" debug)
In the titlebar it should say 'debug-mode' and while in the debug-mode Appget will create a logfile called c:\program files\appget\logreg.txt
If you could post that here, or send it to me, maybe I can find out what's going on.

justice · « **Reply #10 on:** July 26, 2007, 05:21 AM »

see attached.
Running Vista Enterprise 32bit, UAC Off.

Curt · « **Reply #11 on:** July 26, 2007, 10:11 AM »

Same problem here! My log is >300 KB, but is STARTING like this:

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<26.07.07 17:07:52:781|0.6.4.0> a
<26.07.07 17:07:52:781|0.6.4.0> b
<26.07.07 17:07:52:781|0.6.4.0> c
<26.07.07 17:07:52:921|0.6.4.0> d
<26.07.07 17:07:53:609|0.6.4.0> a
<26.07.07 17:07:53:609|0.6.4.0> b
<26.07.07 17:07:53:609|0.6.4.0> e
<26.07.07 17:07:53:609|0.6.4.0> f
<26.07.07 17:07:53:750|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate A
<26.07.07 17:07:53:750|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate B
<26.07.07 17:07:53:750|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate C
<26.07.07 17:07:53:750|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate D
<26.07.07 17:07:53:750|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate E
<26.07.07 17:07:53:781|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate F
<26.07.07 17:07:53:781|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate G
<26.07.07 17:07:53:781|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate H
<26.07.07 17:07:53:781|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate I
<26.07.07 17:07:53:781|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate J
<26.07.07 17:07:53:843|0.6.4.0> UpdateApplicationCollectionAndListView A
<26.07.07 17:07:53:843|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection A
<26.07.07 17:07:53:875|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection B
<26.07.07 17:07:53:875|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection C
<26.07.07 17:07:53:875|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection D
<26.07.07 17:07:53:875|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection E
<26.07.07 17:07:53:890|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection F
<26.07.07 17:07:53:890|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection G
<26.07.07 17:07:53:890|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection H
<26.07.07 17:07:54:046|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection I
<26.07.07 17:08:02:890|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection J
<26.07.07 17:08:02:890|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection K
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection L [aantal=394]
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection L 0 (7-Zip)
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[DisplayName]
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[DisplayName] 7-Zip 4.51 beta
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[DisplayVersion]
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[DisplayVersion]
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[URLUpdateInfo]
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[URLUpdateInfo]
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[UninstallString]
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[UninstallString] "C:\Programmer\7-Zip\Uninstall.exe"
<26.07.07 17:08:02:906|0.6.4.0> GetVersion2 [C:\Programmer\7-Zip\7zFM.exe] A
<26.07.07 17:08:02:953|0.6.4.0> GetVersion2 [C:\Programmer\7-Zip\7zFM.exe] B
<26.07.07 17:08:02:953|0.6.4.0> GetAppVersionInfo [C:\Programmer\7-Zip\7zFM.exe] A
<26.07.07 17:08:02:953|0.6.4.0> GetAppVersionInfo [C:\Programmer\7-Zip\7zFM.exe] B
<26.07.07 17:08:02:953|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection L 1 (930172F1-AD44-48f5-BE9A-619127B1CFC5_is1)

- and ENDING like this:

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<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[DisplayName]
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[DisplayName] BedreWord/faktura
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[DisplayVersion]
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[DisplayVersion] 3.4.4.0
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[URLUpdateInfo]
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[URLUpdateInfo]
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[UninstallString]
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> TRegistry.ReadString[UninstallString] MsiExec.exe /X{FCBA2AF7-1B55-4E81-9D1F-52F8BD0C6FC8}
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection M
<26.07.07 17:08:08:234|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection N
<26.07.07 17:08:08:625|0.6.4.0> FillApplicationCollection O
<26.07.07 17:08:08:625|0.6.4.0> UpdateApplicationCollectionAndListView B
<26.07.07 17:08:08:875|0.6.4.0> UpdateApplicationCollectionAndListView C
<26.07.07 17:08:08:921|0.6.4.0> TAppgetMainForm.FormCreate K
<26.07.07 17:08:08:921|0.6.4.0> g
<26.07.07 17:08:08:937|0.6.4.0> h
<26.07.07 17:08:22:328|0.6.4.0> An unexpected error occured [2]:

Access violation at address 004041E0 in module 'agrun.exe'. Read of address 00000094
<26.07.07 17:08:45:421|0.6.4.0> i

XP Home SP2

jozydapozy · « **Reply #12 on:** July 26, 2007, 10:30 AM »

I think i've found the bug. Could you try it with the included version (Appget 0.6.7)?

justice · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2007, 10:43 AM »

yep works fine here.

Curt · « **Reply #14 on:** July 26, 2007, 10:45 AM »

Ohh YES; Josha, this is so much better :-) Now I have 247 all updated programs instead of 155 programs that AppGet 0.64 did not know the latest version number of. Thanks a lot! Only problem now is for me to report the remaining 65 undertermined programs - it seems a little too tiresome to me that I have to right-click and report each program one by one..??

Appget - user-run software update program

Curt · « **Reply #15 on:** July 26, 2007, 11:04 AM »

Also, it would be nice if you could tell Appget that it doesn't HAVE to use the Dutch Google ...

jozydapozy · « **Reply #16 on:** July 26, 2007, 04:20 PM »

And another release:

I've worked on the "version recognition algorithm" and I think it's quite improved now. Let me know how many applications are still not recognized.
the google-thing: Ooops. The dutch google links are now replaced by google.com (which will redirect to your own language, depending on your google-preferences).
You can download the latest version [0.6.8] here

Curt · « **Reply #17 on:** July 26, 2007, 05:28 PM »

Wow! Yes! -again! This is really getting somewhere!
- this Appget is on the way to become awesome!

And I really like the server response; nice motivating feature!

There still are some minor items:

The "Latest version" of SUPER is actually older than the one I already have
- the problem may be that SUPER versions are named by Year / Version / Month / Date / Year !!

Appget failed to determine the installed version of Windows Media Player 11 other than as version 11 ?! ("not yet checked")- and named latest version 9.00.36.36

And the suggested update of DivX Web Player to latest version 1.4.0 is in fact still Beta 1
- you will need to have a policy on Beta versions.

Josha, would you consider adding "Copy" (marked line / text) to the right-click context menu?

Curt · « **Reply #18 on:** July 26, 2007, 05:33 PM »

Speaking of Beta versions: Microsoft have launched .NET Framework 3.5 Beta 2.

Curt · « **Reply #19 on:** July 26, 2007, 06:49 PM »

I forgot to mention that I still have 29 undetermined programs
- (some of the executing files have very strange names):

Appget - user-run software update program

- when pointed to the right exe Karen Kenworthy's very old (updated Dec 13, 2001) Version Browser v3.1 determined 12 of these 29. The source code is free. http://www.karenware...ertools/ptbrowse.asp

Grorgy · « **Reply #20 on:** August 10, 2007, 06:08 AM »

I've been using this for a little while now and I have 2 problems with it. 1. Beta versions, it would be good to have an option for seeing them or not and 2. Updates for other operating systems, ie, i run windows xp and the latest (highest number anyway) is the vista version, which isnt for xp.

They are my only complaints, apart from that its a great little program and I run it every so often, usually when i check windows updates,

good work

Curt · « **Reply #21 on:** August 10, 2007, 07:56 AM »

@ Grorgy: Congratulations on yet a new avatar. Nice looking!

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I have made excatly the same notes: Wrong OS, and Beta versus Stable versions.

Grorgy · « **Reply #22 on:** August 10, 2007, 08:17 AM »

Gotta keep me guessing Curt, never know who I am

a new avatar is as good as a holiday

(well closest i'll get to one for a while anyway). The avatar I picked up over at http://www.wincustomize.com/ in their avatar section, by quentin94, just had a look and there are some new ones which look good to.

Lashiec · « **Reply #23 on:** August 10, 2007, 09:24 AM »

Thanks for the avatar tip, Grorgy. I've been wanting to change my jagged avatar for some time, and I think this could be a good resource. </offtopic>

Darwin · « **Reply #24 on:** August 10, 2007, 09:43 AM »

Secunia also has a personal updater package in beta testing. I've tried it and it works as well as their online service.