topbanner_forum
  *

avatar image

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length
  • Thursday April 25, 2024, 6:13 am
  • Proudly celebrating 15+ years online.
  • Donate now to become a lifetime supporting member of the site and get a non-expiring license key for all of our programs.
  • donate

Last post Author Topic: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC  (Read 106457 times)

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #150 on: August 30, 2022, 03:36 PM »
By all accounts on ProtonDB, Halo: The Master Chief Collection works just fine despite being ranked as Unsupported, with the caveat that the game's Easy Anti-Cheat doesn't work on Deck/Linux and therefore online multiplayer doesn't work.

Thanks for this! I'd wanted to get it, but passed when I saw unsupported.

I just remembered that I did have to boot into Desktop mode and delete an EAC-related file before it would work, but other than that I didn't need to set any custom compatibility options or do other tinkering:

For the game to work at all, you need to move or remove this file: "steamapps/common/Halo The Master Chief Collection/easyanticheat/easyanticheat_x64.so" Then launch using the "Play Halo: MCC Anti-Cheat Disabled (Mods and Limited Services)" option.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #151 on: August 30, 2022, 06:01 PM »
Yeah, I was thinking about it because even with 512 GB additional, I'm down on space

Tell me about it! I don't have an SD card in my 512 GB Deck, and when I connected the 256 GB external drive and queued up a bunch of games I forgot to set default installation location to the external drive first. So it all went to the internal drive and I ran out of space. I had to keep moving games to the external drive as they finished downloading to make enough room for the next thing in the queue. I remember being surprised at how quickly the 64 GB Deck filled up after seemingly only a few games, even with a 128 GB SD card in it. So when I got hold of the 512 GB Deck it felt so spacious. But I have found myself surprised once again at how little space even the 512 GB feels like.

Maybe in a year or two I'll be able to afford a 1-2 TB SD card to help alleviate the storage issue. :D

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #152 on: August 31, 2022, 10:58 AM »
Yeah, I was thinking about it because even with 512 GB additional, I'm down on space

Tell me about it! I don't have an SD card in my 512 GB Deck, and when I connected the 256 GB external drive and queued up a bunch of games I forgot to set default installation location to the external drive first. So it all went to the internal drive and I ran out of space. I had to keep moving games to the external drive as they finished downloading to make enough room for the next thing in the queue. I remember being surprised at how quickly the 64 GB Deck filled up after seemingly only a few games, even with a 128 GB SD card in it. So when I got hold of the 512 GB Deck it felt so spacious. But I have found myself surprised once again at how little space even the 512 GB feels like.

Maybe in a year or two I'll be able to afford a 1-2 TB SD card to help alleviate the storage issue. :D


I see people installing larger drives in their deck- I'm just not comfortable enough to do that, so looking for other ways around it.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #153 on: September 01, 2022, 05:46 PM »
I see people installing larger drives in their deck- I'm just not comfortable enough to do that, so looking for other ways around it.

Ditto. But I think it's likely that the storage limitations, especially of the 64 GB Deck, will lead to frustrations and eventually end up with me opening it up to replace the internal storage with a larger drive.

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #154 on: September 01, 2022, 08:50 PM »
I see people installing larger drives in their deck- I'm just not comfortable enough to do that, so looking for other ways around it.

Ditto. But I think it's likely that the storage limitations, especially of the 64 GB Deck, will lead to frustrations and eventually end up with me opening it up to replace the internal storage with a larger drive.

I am so glad I didn't skimp when I got the deck. Even 256 seems paltry now that I have it in hand.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #155 on: September 03, 2022, 12:20 AM »
This is the one on using a NAS. The actual post with the instructions can be found at https://www.reddit.c...44l/comment/il6xlti/

I finally got around to attempting this, but I got stuck pretty early on. I copied and pasted the first script and when I run it I get prompted for a password, but it will not accept the password I set using `passwd` so I'm not really sure what to do.

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #156 on: September 03, 2022, 11:59 AM »
I haven't gotten around to attempting it yet, so I'm not much help- but maybe you can ask on Reddit?


I've been trialing controllers for use with my steam deck, and the steel series I use on my desktop isn't working, so I got a Ps5 controller, and it's pretty good, though I'm getting some strange behaviors on certain games.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #157 on: September 04, 2022, 08:41 PM »
This is the one on using a NAS. The actual post with the instructions can be found at https://www.reddit.c...44l/comment/il6xlti/

I finally got around to attempting this, but I got stuck pretty early on. I copied and pasted the first script and when I run it I get prompted for a password, but it will not accept the password I set using `passwd` so I'm not really sure what to do.

I got it working, sort of. No matter what I tried it wouldn't accept my password. So then I replaced the `kdesu -c` command which causes a GUI password prompt to pop up with regular old `sudo` and was able to create the directories and mount the SMB if I ran the script from Konsole. But I also had problems getting it to accept my Windows login details, so I actually couldn't mount the SMB until I changed the shared folder settings from Windows to allow anybody to access it, even if they didn't have a username and password.

Then I had the bright idea that I could try just sharing my Steam directory on my Windows PC instead of trying to share a separate folder and possibly duplicate some of the games being installed, so while I was messing around with that, I decided to try `kdesu` again and suddenly it started accepting my root password. No idea what changed with it, but now at least the Linux side of things is working as advertised in that post. I'm still not sure what I was doing wrong with my Windows username/password combo, but I suppose that will be for another day.

I've been trialing controllers for use with my steam deck, and the steel series I use on my desktop isn't working, so I got a Ps5 controller, and it's pretty good, though I'm getting some strange behaviors on certain games.

I tried an Ouya controller fairly early on and the mappings were all wrong. After that I tried a Nintendo Switch Online SNES Controller and it had similar issues where the mappings were incorrect. Since then there have been notes in the Steam Update Logs saying support for NSO controllers was added, but I just tested it and I'm still having trouble getting about half the buttons to register properly.

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #158 on: September 05, 2022, 11:15 AM »
I sent back the Steelseries - it just shouldn't be that hard. The PS5 controller works for most games, but I'm thinking about getting an XBox One S controller as those seem to be the best for compatibility.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #159 on: September 05, 2022, 01:05 PM »
Yeah. I have an Xbox 360 and an Xbox One controller, both of which I use for PC gaming. I've connected both to the Deck (via USB hub) and they both work flawlessly. I'm sure the newer models of Xbox controllers will also work just fine.

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #160 on: September 06, 2022, 01:45 PM »
Now I'm thinking about getting another SD Card....

https://www.reddit.c...rd_swapping_storing/

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #161 on: September 06, 2022, 06:24 PM »
Now I'm thinking about getting another SD Card....

https://www.reddit.c...rd_swapping_storing/

That's clever, and cheap. But I still think this is a better solution, if you're using the default carrying case and you have access to a 3D printer:

Steam Deck USB-C Charger (USA Plug Only) Photo.pngValve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
Steam Deck USB-C Charger (USA Plug Only) Render.pngValve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC

Here's something I found that may be useful if you have access to a 3D printer. It's a little carrying case for the power cord, and even includes a few microSD card slots. The 3D-printed case goes in the little cavity behind the elastic strap of the Deck Carrying Case.

https://www.thingive...se.com/thing:5356412

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #162 on: September 07, 2022, 04:07 PM »
if you're using the default carrying case

That's the big problem LOL. But besides that, I don't (hopefully) see myself getting anything but one more 1TB card.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #163 on: September 08, 2022, 12:06 AM »
I don't (hopefully) see myself getting anything but one more 1TB card.

So you won't need one of these? ;)


wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #164 on: September 08, 2022, 11:37 AM »
Ummm.... no LOL. I'm actually trying to just keep things on there I play rather than have everything there.

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #165 on: September 08, 2022, 05:40 PM »
I just found out last night that my local library will do 3D prints for me for inexpensively (~$1 per 20 grams of filament), so I've asked them to make a Lifesaver for me. Once I get an idea of how long it takes and the quality of the print, I will probably ask them to print more things.

Hopefully I can also get them to print the power cord / microSD card case inserts for me. But they limit how much filament you can use on your prints and I think that case might use too much filament. But hopefully they aren't entirely strict on the limitations and I'll be able to work out an exception for a print or two.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2022, 08:10 PM by Deozaan »

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #166 on: September 08, 2022, 08:22 PM »
The 3D print is finished and in my hands! I was not expecting it today. :)

I don't know if this is the norm, but there's a very thin layer about 1 cm wide around the perimeter of the print that I guess I need to break or cut off somehow before I can use it. Otherwise it is too large to fit in the case as shown in the video.

Lifesaver Corner.jpgValve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC Lifesaver Angled.jpgValve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC

So I'll work on removing that and probably post a picture or at least report back on how well it works soon-ish.

EDIT: It works!

Lifesaver Working.jpgValve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC


In other news, I think I might be in trouble. A few days ago when I was trying to figure out how to mount the SMB share I kept changing the password to be something easier and easier because I was tired of typing it so much during my failed testing. And now I've come back to it and everything I try for the password fails. So I think I may need to re-flash the Deck to recover access to the root account. :-[ :(
« Last Edit: September 08, 2022, 09:46 PM by Deozaan »

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #167 on: September 08, 2022, 11:06 PM »
 Well that sucks :(

I haven't done too much with my Deck lately other than play :)

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #168 on: September 10, 2022, 12:09 AM »
So now that I've had to flash a Deck twice and both times I've had to look longer than I'd like for the recovery image download and instructions, I figure this would be a good place to leave a link to them.

Steam Deck Recovery Instructions:
https://help.steampo.../1B71-EDF2-EB6D-2BB3

Some keywords to help locate this post when doing a search:
Steam Deck Flash SteamOS ROM Image Recovery


Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #169 on: September 11, 2022, 02:10 AM »
This isn't exactly specific to the Deck, but I don't think I would have discovered this if it weren't for the Deck.

Lately I've been really enjoying a new-ish genre of games I would call "Horde Survival" games. Both on Deck and on my desktop PC.

The game that popularized the genre is called Vampire Survivors. For some reason they (usually) all tend to look horrible and have ugly UIs, which is why I took one look at Vampire Survivors a few months ago and said, "Nope! Not for me!" But then I actually saw a video of the gameplay of one of them, called Boneraiser Minions, and I thought it looked kind of fun.

They're kind of like twin-stick shooters, except you (usually) only control the movement of your character, and if an attack can be aimed it is (usually) just aimed in the direction your character is facing/moving. Hordes of enemies attack you from all sides, and your attacks/skills are (usually) automatically cast. You collect XP from your fallen foes and when you have enough XP to level up you get a random selection of skills to acquire or upgrade. And with that, you move around trying to stay alive long enough to defeat the waves of enemies and the boss(es).

Also, they are (usually) only $2-$4 each, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to find out if it was fun. And well, like I said, I've had a lot of fun. I've gotten several hours worth of fun from the 3 I've tried, and I think there's still many hours more fun left in them.

This is the video that finally got me to try them out, featuring Boneraiser Minions:



The same day I saw that video I bought both Boneraiser Minions and Vampire Survivors.

And then just two days ago I was perusing Fanatical's bundles when I saw that another game in the same genre, called Nomad Survival, was in the Killer Bundle 23. I felt the other games in the bundle looked interesting enough, so I got 6 games for $3.50, which is just $0.50 more than Nomad Survival alone would cost. (Incidentally, that was also the same time I got the Summer Mystery Bundle I posted about.)

Anyway, I've been really enjoying Nomad Survival as well, though I'm finding it initially much easier than the others. As in, I actually beat the first stage (which takes 30+ minutes) on my first (and second, and third) try. Whereas in the other two games I usually died within the first few minutes on my first try and had to buy several upgrades and try a few/several times before finally succeeding. But Nomad Survivors allows you to set modifiers to increase the difficulty, which also increases the rewards you receive. So I'm not too concerned about it being too easy, since I can always just make it harder if I want to.

TL;DR: I think Vampire Survivors and other "horde survival" games are pretty fun, and if you dismissed them out-of-hand like I did just because they're ugly, I highly suggest you give them a try. For $2-4 each, there's not much at risk. And if you buy one and find that you really hate it you can always refund the game if you play it for less than 2 hours.
« Last Edit: September 12, 2022, 10:54 AM by Deozaan »

Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #170 on: September 11, 2022, 07:04 PM »
I decided it was more important (and less expensive) to get this JSAUX Docking Station which has 3x USB-A 3.0, 4K@60Hz HDMI 2.0, Gigabit LAN, and a 100W PD USB-C port.

The JSAUX Dock finally arrived yesterday. I connected a keyboard and mouse and another display to the Deck. I played a bit of Factorio, because while the game runs fine on the Deck, I feel it's just not the same without a mouse and keyboard. I haven't done a lot with the dock to put it through its paces. I still need to connect it to a 4K TV and the ethernet, and maybe connect an external storage.

I noticed that my external display would rarely go blank for a few seconds, as if the signal was lost. It happened a few times throughout the day. I hope it's not a faulty dock, but I'm pretty sure none of the other hardware is faulty. I typically use the same display as a secondary monitor for my desktop PC and I haven't seen it do this before. I suppose it could be a software issue. Maybe the Deck is trying to do something weird. I'll have to experiment with other displays, cables, and my other hub in various configurations to see if I can single out the problem.

I've had the JSAUX dock connected to my TV for a couple of weeks now, with ethernet connected, too.

I'm still experiencing occasional video or audio dropouts, and this is with a different display and using a different HDMI cable and even a different Steam Deck than what I used when I first experienced the issue. So I think either the JSAUX dock is faulty or it's working as designed and it's just a low quality product.

Another strange thing I've noticed, this time with the ethernet port, is that the power light is always on and the activity light is constantly blinking, even when there's nothing else (except the power cord) connected to the dock. What is doing the communicating, and with whom is it communicating? I don't know enough about how to monitor incoming and outgoing traffic to/from the dock, but it does give me some privacy and security concerns. What kind of chips are inside the dock? Is it phoning home with telemetry? Does it have a built-in keylogger? Did JSAUX create a botnet with their docks using unsuspecting Steam Deck owners? In this day and age with tiny microcontrollers and SoCs, who knows what kind of nefarious things could be going on inside the outer shell of the dock.

Here's the step-by-step breakdown of what's going on:

When I first connect the power cable to the JSAUX dock, with nothing else connected to any of the ports, the power and activity lights will flash once very briefly and then go and stay dark. If I then plug in an ethernet cable, the power light immediately comes on and remains steadily lit, and the activity light starts blinking and doesn't stop. If I disconnect the ethernet cable, the lights will go dark and stay dark. In short: with only the power and ethernet cables connected to the JSAUX dock, the network activity light blinks continuously, whether or not anything else is connected to the dock.

By comparison, when I connect the power cable to the dockTech 7-in-1 hub with nothing else connected to any of the ports, the power and activity lights briefly flash a few times and then go dark and stay dark. If I then plug in an ethernet cable, the lights remain dark. If I plug in the Deck (while it is powered off), the lights remain dark. Once I turn on the Deck the lights start flickering occasionally as if it's trying to perform a handshake with my router. By the time the Deck has booted up to the user selection screen (or straight into Gaming Mode if you don't have multiple users), the power light has come on and remains steadily lit, and the activity light starts blinking as expected to indicate network activity. If I disconnect the ethernet cable, the lights will go dark and stay dark. If I reconnect the ethernet cable, the lights come on again as expected. If I disconnect the hub from the Deck, the lights go dark and remain dark. Or if I leave the Deck connected to the hub and power it (the Deck) off, the lights go dark and remain dark. In short: there is no indicated network activity except when I would expect there to be network activity.

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #171 on: September 11, 2022, 08:50 PM »
I'm using that one that was an all in one when I play in the bedroom, and haven't had any issues with it.

https://smile.amazon.../product/B09ZY6J8P4/

I haven't actually used my 'dock' version yet.


Deozaan

  • Charter Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • ***
  • Points: 1
  • Posts: 9,751
    • View Profile
    • Read more about this member.
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #172 on: September 12, 2022, 02:35 AM »
I see people installing larger drives in their deck- I'm just not comfortable enough to do that, so looking for other ways around it.

Ditto. But I think it's likely that the storage limitations, especially of the 64 GB Deck, will lead to frustrations and eventually end up with me opening it up to replace the internal storage with a larger drive.

I am so glad I didn't skimp when I got the deck. Even 256 seems paltry now that I have it in hand.

I'm really tempted to get this Kingston 512 GB M.2 2230 SSD for $51. It's supposedly the OEM drive that Valve use in the 512 GB Deck, according to a random person on Reddit. If true, that would put the 64 GB Deck on par with the 512 GB Deck, minus the laser-etched screen, and for $200 less than the 512 GB Deck cost. That's an expensive screen. . .

Pre-post edit: After making the realization of what I wrote in those last two sentences, I was convinced to get it. 🤓 I came back to update this post saying I'd bought it and realized I hadn't even submitted it yet. :D

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #173 on: September 12, 2022, 10:05 AM »
Well, in any case, it will be interesting to see your progress  ;D :Thmbsup:

EDIT: Just don't be this guy

https://www.reddit.c...280_nvme_to_my_deck/
« Last Edit: September 12, 2022, 01:56 PM by wraith808 »

wraith808

  • Supporting Member
  • Joined in 2006
  • **
  • default avatar
  • Posts: 11,186
    • View Profile
    • Donate to Member
Re: Valve Announces Steam Deck: A Handheld PC
« Reply #174 on: September 12, 2022, 10:35 AM »
A collection of Steam Deck tips that are downloadable: https://steamdeckguide.tiddlyhost.com/