But it doesn't matter.
Perhaps I'm not being clear enough.
The psychopaths out there will read anything and come up with anything. That it is the declaration of independence doesn't matter -- it is good enough that it was written in the same century by the same basic group as the fellows who wrote the Constitution. Logic doesn't matter. Reason is irrelevant. The psychopaths follow the same basic patterns all the time. They grasp at straws and bray like donkeys until they get their way. We see this regularly. The entire SOPA/PIPA/etc. thing was a good example. The same nutjobs came back with the same nonsense again. They latch onto anything remotely related to any issue and pursue it until they get it. They don't take no for an answer. This will be the same basic deal because it's "close enough".
-Renegade
But why bother with the Declaration of Independence, which predates the founding of this country, when there are so many better documents to mess with that have much greater potential for accomplishing so much, in the way of a psychopathic power grab? Why not attack the Constitution itself, and reveal it as a complete fraud, and produce a document declaring your family as the rightful royal heirs to the crown of the USA, as willed to your family by the childless George Washington himself, this country's first King? Then march your gun nut psychopathic patriot army right into Washington DC, kick the President, Congress, and the Supreme Court off your brand new property, put yourself in charge of everything, and either shoot or lock up anyone that disagrees with you (without a trial), and make everyone live by your psychopathic rules?
If you are going to distort history and use its historical documents to do it, might as well go all the way with your psychopathic distortions. You would have a better chance of success messing with the Constitution and the last will & testament of George Washington to do it, than a punctuation mark in the Declaration of Independence.
-app103
You're trying to be rational. Stop.
They're not rational (in the sense that you or I would normally ascribe to "rational" - but which is not to say there isn't a method to their madness).
Ever listen to Congressional debates (or parliamentary debates, etc.)?
In my car, the radio station that gets the best reception and that isn't just complete crap runs Parliament House all the time, so I listen to quite a fair bit of what the nutjobs have to say.
Very little of it is remotely rational. It's overwhelmingly emotional appeals and drivel with a truckload of lies mixed in for good measure. And whenever they're not screaming at each other with lies & emotional appeals, they're having a nice big circle-jerk about one thing or another, and patting each other on the back for the wonderful jobs they all do.
Quite literally, the majority of speeches I hear eventually get around to "think of the children". Really. Mining tax? Think of the children. Veterans affairs? Think of the children. Carbon tax? Think of the children. Janitors in government buildings? Think of the children. All of those are actual debates & speeches over the last little while in Parliament House where... wait for it... everyone was asked to "think of the children".
Just so that you don't think I'm making this up...
http://parlinfo.aph....2eac7c98e8%2F0021%22 So do not come into this place, Senator Wong, with your hypocrisy and tell us about intergenerational burden, when you left our children and our grandchildren with an enormous debt and deficit disaster.
http://parlinfo.aph....69e2e4f785%2F0184%22Renewable energy technologies are doing well, not only as a new innovative form of industry but also in providing a benefit to the environment, to the community, to our children and to future generations.
...
There I was reminded about future generations and about the importance of these bills in creating a sustainable future for our young people and for their children to come.
http://parlinfo.aph....ce06f942d0%2F0262%22My only comment on the debate is that the hard work of the Abbott government in fixing the financial mess that our government finds itself in because of the previous government will mean that those leaving us will live a better future—their future lives will be better, as will be those of their children and grandchildren.
But, it's not just Down Under...
http://www.gpo.gov/f...HRG-113hhrg79938.htmI have included a picture of Russell with his two children
at the end of my testimony and the reason I've done that is, I
think it is important for all of us, when I read the Suicide
Data Report, the one thing that is missing in this Suicide Data
Report are the names of the individuals, the names of the
families, the names of the loved ones that are affected and
impacted by these tragic deaths. And I think it is important
for all of us to remember that.
For another example of "the children":
http://www.huffingto...censo_b_5564553.htmlThis January, under government pressure, many of the United Kingdom’s internet service providers (ISPs) — together providing over 90 percent of the country’s home broadband connections — turned on “porn filters” for all of their customers, requiring them to actively turn off the filters to view any content deemed unsuitable. Prime Minister David Cameron pushed the program through under the guise of protecting the “innocence of children,” but as warned by opponents of Internet regulation, the filters are now blocking large amounts of clean content.
Hmm... ain't quite working out like it was advertised, eh?
You're never going to "win" a debate against that kind of lunacy by trying to be sane or rational. Logic and reason have nothing to do with anything there.
It's better to look at the reality distortion field that they exist in, see "how they rationalise" and then use that distorted lens to project where things will end up.