Author Topic: trying to combine antiviruses and firewalls (Read 11349 times)

Contro · « **on:** February 16, 2014, 05:55 AM »

ps. For those looking for fine-granularity control, this combination firewall+antivirus looks very promising and is in the same class as Eset, Outpost, and Comodo: http://www.emsisoft.com/
-mouser (February 15, 2014, 07:01 PM)

I am not sure if can coexist with avast.
so trying the free version.
I will comment

Contro · « **Reply #1 on:** February 16, 2014, 05:59 AM »

trying coexist

I received this window

Outpost Security Suite 7.1 Free Setup
Incompatible Products Detected
Outpost Security Suite has detected components on your computer that can belong to the following
third-party security products. Please confirm that you have ínstalled these producís ín order to provide
a smooth coexistence of security products from different vendors. If you haven't installed the product,
clear the check box by its name.
avast! Antivirus
Note: Please note that some of the listed components may belong to licensed products.

I decided to continue and after disable one of them. .....

Contro · « **Reply #2 on:** February 16, 2014, 06:02 AM »

Now offer me a manual configuration ...

Perform Compatibilíty Actions
To provide compatibility with detected third-party products, the following actions need to be performed
manually. Perform all the required operations, set the Done status by dicking each link and continue the
installation.
Add product installation folder to avastlAntivirus Exclusions ............... Not done
After product installation, please add its installabon folder to avast! Antivirus File System Shield Exclusions.

ejem. I will try install in portable mode. Obviously is not portable in this case.....

Contro · « **Reply #3 on:** February 16, 2014, 06:04 AM »

When the "Not done" legend appear click to convert in done.

Contro · « **Reply #4 on:** February 16, 2014, 06:09 AM »

I create a restore point, but the program creates its own point.
Is not a good portable and writes in c:\windows.
Need windows services.
Seems hangs when installing

mouser · « **Reply #5 on:** February 16, 2014, 06:55 AM »

I split this off into its own thread.. you are asking for trouble if you combine multiple resident firewalls and antiviruses. You can combine NON-resident antivirus engines.

40hz · « **Reply #6 on:** February 16, 2014, 07:26 AM »

you are asking for trouble if you combine multiple resident firewalls and antiviruses.
-mouser (February 16, 2014, 06:55 AM)

@Contro - +1 w/mouser! You can give yourself some major headaches doing that.

Most good antimalware utilities will check to see if another realtime scanner is active - and warn you about it. Pay close attention to any warnings, messages, or dialog boxes whenever setting up an AV or similar utility. This is not the sort of app you want to just "click-through" when installing. Especially since a screwed up installation of a security product can be difficult to disable or easily uninstall.

Contro · « **Reply #7 on:** February 16, 2014, 08:38 AM »

I split this off into its own thread.. you are asking for trouble if you combine multiple resident firewalls and antiviruses. You can combine NON-resident antivirus engines.
-mouser (February 16, 2014, 06:55 AM)

Mouser i read your private, but leads me here again. I will locate the real post and continue here.
My idea is only have one resident. But this way I can use or another.....

Contro · « **Reply #8 on:** February 16, 2014, 08:41 AM »

ahp. Understood. I can't access to null the other post but try here now.
I have desactivated avast for one hour.
Now i have the problem configuration is endless.

Innuendo · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2014, 11:07 AM »

Some firewall programs can be combined with some AV programs, but you can't run two AVs along-side each other or two firewalls along-side each other. Also, one or both cannot be security suites.

However, even if you have a firewall-only program and an AV-only program, sometimes they will co-exist peacefully, but a lot of times they won't. Unless you have a really good reason for trying something like this you're best off just not messing with it. There's a lot of configuring & experimenting to get everything working properly.

Even if it appears everything is working fine something could be conflicting that's leaving your system unprotected.

Contro · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2014, 04:01 PM »

Ejem. I tried deactivate avast, but i can't .
Now i don't have internet connection.....
i am trying to recover the properties of the area local connection.
only Microsoft net client appear.
so i click install
and as a miracle appear all the rest of the options. ....
So i have recovered internet connection.

The problem identified with outpost is that the service is not ready.
So i can't run

What can i do now ?
$:-\$

Contro · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2014, 05:48 PM »

I have uninstall Outpost and seems all is back to normality.

So I would like antivirus compatible with Avast, and even with the firewall in team.

Do you know any explicit link ?

4wd · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2014, 11:03 PM »

So I would like antivirus compatible with Avast, and even with the firewall in team.
-Contro (February 17, 2014, 05:48 PM)

You already have an anti-virus program, how many do you actually want?

Just get a firewall, eg. the free version of Windows 8 Firewall Control.

Contro · « **Reply #13 on:** February 18, 2014, 04:32 AM »

So I would like antivirus compatible with Avast, and even with the firewall in team.
-Contro (February 17, 2014, 05:48 PM)

You already have an anti-virus program, how many do you actually want?

Just get a firewall, eg. the free version of Windows 8 Firewall Control.
-4wd (February 17, 2014, 11:03 PM)

I have windows 7 only . And xp in virtual machines, but don't use antivirus in the virtual machines.
I would like at least seven desktop second opinions antivirus

I have now
malwarebytes antimalware
superantispyware
s&d spybot

40hz · « **Reply #14 on:** February 18, 2014, 08:57 AM »

It would be much easier, and less time consuming for everyone, if you just loaded a suite where all the components are coded to work with each other.

Otherwise, even if you find a combination of products that works together now, there's no guarantee they will continue to do so after the next upgrade. I ran into that myself a few years ago with Comodo and Avira. That combination always worked well for me - until one day it suddenly didn't.

Mixing realtime security apps is more trouble than it's worth - unless you're doing it for a school project. Or to satisfy your own curiosity.

Otherwise, install a decent all-in-one suite and be done with it.

Contro · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2014, 10:07 AM »

I have Avast free, but sometimes don't detect the virus like the last time.
I usually apply a weekly scan with malwarebytes antimalware.
And Spybot s&d and superantispyware.
Until the moment works.

4wd · « **Reply #16 on:** February 18, 2014, 06:13 PM »

Just get a firewall, eg. the free version of Windows 8 Firewall Control.
-4wd (February 17, 2014, 11:03 PM)

I have windows 7 only . And xp in virtual machines, but don't use antivirus in the virtual machines.
-Contro (February 18, 2014, 04:32 AM)

Did you even look at the website?

2014-02-19 11_06_09.png

Contro · « **Reply #17 on:** February 18, 2014, 07:19 PM »

Just get a firewall, eg. the free version of Windows 8 Firewall Control.
-4wd (February 17, 2014, 11:03 PM)

I have windows 7 only . And xp in virtual machines, but don't use antivirus in the virtual machines.
-Contro (February 18, 2014, 04:32 AM)

Did you even look at the website?
(see attachment in previous post)
-4wd (February 18, 2014, 06:13 PM)

I will take a look. But really i would like antivirus in coexistance only. I haven't a problem with windows firewall for years as long i remember.

Contro · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2014, 02:33 AM »

Installed the portable version.
Seems strange to me, but i engaged to the windows 8 firewall forum .
I am learning

Vurbal · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2014, 03:29 PM »

Mixing realtime security apps is more trouble than it's worth - unless you're doing it for a school project. Or to satisfy your own curiosity.

Otherwise, install a decent all-in-one suite and be done with it.
-40hz (February 18, 2014, 08:57 AM)

Amen to that!

Sudden security software conflicts can cause catastrophic failures just as unpleasant as the malware you're trying to avoid.

Contro · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2014, 04:35 PM »

Yeapssss.
But i insist in the partial point of view of Mouser - like i see of course- that the really dangerous situation is two residents antivirus suites. Or incompatibles in any case like i have lived a few days ago with avast and outpost security suite agnitum.....

Nevertheless i am in my school : donation coder.