Author Topic: Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app) (Read 517756 times)

mouser · « **Reply #125 on:** August 10, 2012, 11:33 PM »

very nice.

ZorMi · « **Reply #126 on:** August 11, 2012, 12:59 AM »

I did some digging and Yahoo! provide an API for the WOEID lookups so I added the functionality directly to sWeather.
-skwire (August 10, 2012, 10:44 PM)

Very good, it looks much better now.

Few more hints:

Expanded table view should contain a column with time of last update, some data could be several hours old and unrealistic.

If Yahoo update schedule is fixed and reliable (I dunno about that) there could be an 'Automatic' refresh working like:
- read current Yahoo weather data and when it's updated.
- based on this and Yahoo schedule calculate next update.
- read again a minute (or five) after calculated time.
- if it's refreshed... great. wait next update.
- if it's still old... try again in 5 (or 15) minutes.
... or something similar.

Regards...

Who's KorMi?

tomos · « **Reply #127 on:** August 11, 2012, 04:16 AM »

Here's a screenshot of the new sWeather Options panel.
-skwire (August 10, 2012, 10:44 PM)

looks great

~~[edit] unable to download - or to reach your site, will try later [/edit]~~

[edit] no worries, got it! [/edit]

skwire · « **Reply #128 on:** August 11, 2012, 07:07 AM »

Expanded table view should contain a column with time of last update, some data could be several hours old and unrealistic.
-ZorMi (August 11, 2012, 12:59 AM)

I'll see what I can do.

If Yahoo update schedule is fixed and reliable (I dunno about that) there could be an 'Automatic' refresh working like:
- read current Yahoo weather data and when it's updated.
- based on this and Yahoo schedule calculate next update.
- read again a minute (or five) after calculated time.
- if it's refreshed... great. wait next update.
- if it's still old... try again in 5 (or 15) minutes.
... or something similar.
-ZorMi (August 11, 2012, 12:59 AM)

I"ll consider this but, with the new 15 minute update cyclye, I don't see a whole lot of benefit.

Who's KorMi?
-ZorMi (August 11, 2012, 12:59 AM)

Doh! My apologies...

I've fixed this in the changelog and uploaded a minor build update.

skwire · « **Reply #129 on:** August 11, 2012, 07:45 AM »

This update might move the expanded view's name column to the far right as the last column. If so, simply drag it back to where you want it and close the window. The order will be saved for next time. Thanks.

Website | Download v1.2.4 - 2012-08-11 + Added "Last update time" column to expanded view. (Thanks, ZorMi)

skwire · « **Reply #130 on:** August 11, 2012, 07:02 PM »

Just cobbled in a five-day forecast to the main window. The data is also in the Expanded View.

Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)

Website | Download v1.2.5 - 2012-08-11 + Added 5-day forecast to main window and Expanded View. ! More checks for duplicate names in the WOEID list. (Thanks, lanux128)

mouser · « **Reply #131 on:** August 11, 2012, 09:49 PM »

nice.

skwire · « **Reply #132 on:** August 11, 2012, 10:56 PM »

Thanks, mouser. =]

skwire · « **Reply #133 on:** August 13, 2012, 01:33 PM »

Website | Download v1.2.9 - 2012-08-13 + Added new tray condition theme based on the Farm Fresh web icons from FatCow (http://www.fatcow.com/free-icons). + Added F3 hotkey to bring up Options panel. v1.2.8 - 2012-08-13 + The "Change Weather!?" panel now functions as a theme browser. + Added new tray condition theme based on the LED icons from http://led24.de v1.2.7 - 2012-08-12 + Added condition icons to the expanded view's 5-day forecast columns. v1.2.6 - 2012-08-12 ! Fixed an issue where stale 5-day data from one location was affecting locations that didn't have 5-day data to start with.

joiwind · « **Reply #134 on:** August 14, 2012, 03:12 AM »

Great - thanks again skwire.

One small problem with the five-day display : the icons sometimes disappear after an automatic refresh, a manual refresh brings them back.

Suggestion for the GUI : that you move the small panel that is now middle-right with the arrows etc. up to top-right, that would be more consistent with the context (or something like that $:-\$ ).

skwire · « **Reply #135 on:** August 14, 2012, 07:21 AM »

One small problem with the five-day display : the icons sometimes disappear after an automatic refresh, a manual refresh brings them back.
-joiwind (August 14, 2012, 03:12 AM)

I noticed this, too, and did put an extra window refresh command in there but it's still not 100%.

Suggestion for the GUI : that you move the small panel that is now middle-right with the arrows etc. up to top-right, that would be more consistent with the context (or something like that $:-\$ ).
-joiwind (August 14, 2012, 03:12 AM)

Ahhh, yes, the bane of my existence with this application. I have struggled with the positioning of that button bar since I started writing this app. I've tried it at the top, bottom, upper right, lower left, ad nauseum. None have ever really looked "right." Where it is now is where I'm the least displeased with it. Notice that I didn't say happy with it.

joiwind · « **Reply #136 on:** August 14, 2012, 10:43 AM »

Where it is now is where I'm the least displeased with it. Notice that I didn't say happy with it.
-skwire (August 14, 2012, 07:21 AM)

Cool ... nearly a double negative

Ath · « **Reply #137 on:** August 14, 2012, 11:34 AM »

I'm very pleased with the way sWeather has developed. Nice

There's only one, maybe rather big, feature I'd like to request: A setting for Fahrenheit or Celcius/Metric per location, so I can easily see, and optionally quote, the 'actual' temperature for locations in the non-metric using parts of the world

A possible alternative for this feature could be a tooltip displaying the 'other' value then the default display-metric, when hovering the mouse over it. A quick calculation from F to C or back would be just fine, polling the Yahoo API twice would be overkill, IMHO.

tomos · « **Reply #138 on:** August 14, 2012, 11:38 AM »

Enjoying the weather here

with sWeather, of course

I have a question about the Yahoo site
-
does *anyone* know if it gives it's sources anywhere? - I mean the location of whatever weather station it uses?
I cant find anything on the page myself...

My problem is that, for the village I live in it currently says 26°C, for the nearest city it says 16°C. The city is less than 10 miles away, with no noticable difference in weather apart from usually being warmer due to being built-up.
So, something is quite wrong there, yet I would have thought that the forecast for a small city would be more accurate than the forecast for a village pop. 600...

I dont even have a thermometer to check, but it definitely is well over 20° here at the moment.

skwire · « **Reply #139 on:** August 14, 2012, 11:52 AM »

What do you all think of this layout with buttons at the bottom?

Release: sWeather (tray-based weather app)

tomos · « **Reply #140 on:** August 14, 2012, 12:00 PM »

What do you all think of this layout with buttons at the bottom?
(see attachment in previous post)
-skwire (August 14, 2012, 11:52 AM)

looks well, but I think the other one above (as it currently is) is more discreet

skwire · « **Reply #141 on:** August 14, 2012, 12:02 PM »

Yep, I know...and that's part of the struggle I've had since designing this app.

tomos · « **Reply #142 on:** August 14, 2012, 12:04 PM »

I like discreet myself :-)

Ath · « **Reply #143 on:** August 14, 2012, 12:11 PM »

What do you all think of this layout with buttons at the bottom?
(see attachment in previous post)

-skwire (August 14, 2012, 11:52 AM)

Only if the 5-day preview could be turned off

, the current height already is about the maximum height I would want to allow it on screen.

tomos · « **Reply #144 on:** August 14, 2012, 12:15 PM »

I seem to be have a sWeather hour:

I was clicking the forward and back buttons in the main window & I heard a couple of "pops".
I notice this in the clipboard

Screenshot - 2012-08-14 , 19_07_09.png

it seems to be copying the filepath of the clicked button-icon.
is that expected behaviour?

Is it correct that these be in a $$$$$_sWeather_temp temp folder:

Spoiler

1.png
2.png
3.png
4.png
5.png
about.png
changelog.txt
icon.ico
resources.dll
yahoo.ico

skwire · « **Reply #145 on:** August 14, 2012, 12:26 PM »

I was clicking the forward and back buttons in the main window & I heard a couple of "pops".
I notice this in the clipboard
-tomos (August 14, 2012, 12:15 PM)

Odd, there is no code in there to do that. Does it do it even after restarting sWeather?

Is it correct that these be in a $$$$$_sWeather_temp temp folder:
-tomos (August 14, 2012, 12:15 PM)

Yes.

joiwind · « **Reply #146 on:** August 14, 2012, 01:26 PM »

What do you all think of this layout with buttons at the bottom?
(see attachment in previous post)

-skwire (August 14, 2012, 11:52 AM)

Well, I like this way of displaying. If it's not discreet it's neat.

skwire · « **Reply #147 on:** August 14, 2012, 02:27 PM »

Well, I like this way of displaying. If it's not discreet it's neat.
-joiwind (August 14, 2012, 01:26 PM)

Hehehe...yeah, it's a toss-up.

skwire · « **Reply #148 on:** August 14, 2012, 02:30 PM »

I'm very pleased with the way sWeather has developed. Nice
-Ath (August 14, 2012, 11:34 AM)

Thanks, I'm rather pleased with it, too, since this is one of my apps that I use myself.

There's only one, maybe rather big, feature I'd like to request: A setting for Fahrenheit or Celcius/Metric per location, so I can easily see, and optionally quote, the 'actual' temperature for locations in the non-metric using parts of the world
A possible alternative for this feature could be a tooltip displaying the 'other' value then the default display-metric, when hovering the mouse over it. A quick calculation from F to C or back would be just fine, polling the Yahoo API twice would be overkill, IMHO.
-Ath (August 14, 2012, 11:34 AM)

That's actually a slick idea so what I've done is this:

Website | Download v1.3.0 - 2012-08-14 + Added status bar mouseover conversions for all values that can be converted. Hover your mouse above a reading, e.g., the current temperature, and the converted value should appear in the status bar. (Thanks, Ath) * Cleaned up navigation button positioning and widened their click areas slightly.

Messing with tooltips on controls in AHK is a kludgy hack so I hope my solution covers your request.

tomos · « **Reply #149 on:** August 14, 2012, 03:24 PM »

I was clicking the forward and back buttons in the main window & I heard a couple of "pops".
I notice this in the clipboard
-tomos (August 14, 2012, 12:15 PM)

Odd, there is no code in there to do that. Does it do it even after restarting sWeather?
-skwire (August 14, 2012, 12:26 PM)

it copies a couple of times for each icon, I cant figure out when it happens - e.g. it might happen on the fourth click of the back icon. Happens with back/forward/refresh icons. It seems to happen less often after restarting but it does happen again. (with V.1.2.9 Build1)
I cannot figure out an exact pattern.

It's no big deal, but it is odd.

I'm using mouser's CH&S.