Author Topic: SQLNotes...what is it exactly? (Read 902910 times)

PPLandry · « **Reply #275 on:** December 16, 2007, 10:34 PM »

>By the way, I was watching that video in the download directory showing how the html pane content can appear right under the outliner item. That was cool! Is that available yet or is that coming in the future?

It was de-activated in 0.9.21 for now. It was not fluid enough, did not print, etc. Basically buggy.

The idea was to provide some improved text outlining.

In real text ouliners you can have this:

Chapter 1
Some chapter 1 introductory text ....
   Section 1.1
    Some section 1.1 text
   Section 1.2
Chapter 2

and collapse to show just:

Chapter 1
   Section 1.1
   Section 1.2
Chapter 2

Now Ecco and SQLNotes cannot do that (no way to hide the chapter 1 introductory text without hiding the Sections 1.1 and 1.2). The new approach will be to display the section text as a regular item. It will be much more fluid, elegant, will print, etc. Only drawback is that items do not WYSIWYG all HTML codes, only the most basic ones.

PPLandry · « **Reply #276 on:** December 16, 2007, 10:35 PM »

>Uninstall

In this case, it is best, since some controls were changed to use Unicode ones. Uninstalling will remove the old ones

Armando · « **Reply #277 on:** December 17, 2007, 01:50 AM »

I really like what I'm seeing Pierre.

Something related to what superboyac mentioned before : finding the searched items in the "search" grid. Depending on the filled fields, and depending on the number of showed fields in the search grid, it can be hard to find the items in the grid (ie : if the only filled field is "name" and it's hidden). I wonder how can that be solved. Maybe by highlighting the filled fields ? or having some kind of automatic reordering of the columns to have the filled ones first (that would probably be better...) ?

It would be nice if when a new Item is created by mistake, "esc" would delete it right away (since it's blank anyway). Ctrl+E would be also okay... but the confirmation window is not necessary in that case IMO.

Is a more powerful "undo" to be expected ? (one that willl also work for item deletion)

Also, IMOH the "grids" submenu in the view menu doesn't belong there. Same thing for the "manage forms" and "manage fields". I think they should simply be in the Grid Menu. It might be a personal thing though. I wonder what others find.

More later…

PPLandry · « **Reply #278 on:** December 17, 2007, 10:46 AM »

Thanks!

Search: In QuickSearch, I now display, in the search result grid, all fields that have the search text (except the HTML pane related ones because they can be large)

Empty items: CTRL-E now does not show a confirmation when the item is empty and the only assigned field is the grid source field (which was auto-assigned anyway)

Full undo will come as a freebee with disconnected mode (after release 1.0)

Grids sub-menu: The reason why it is there is that the Grid menu is not shown when no grid is open or when the current form is not a grid. In Ecco, it was also in the view menu... Keep in mind that Grids are just one of the (eventual) many display modes. The forthcoming Calendar is another display mode and the grid menu will not apply to it. It will have a Calendar menu. But suggestions are always welcomed, and menu structure is definitely not final. It is also very easy to re-arrange it if need be.

Changes are available in the latest build, as usual.

jlogic77 · « **Reply #279 on:** December 17, 2007, 06:21 PM »

Interesting concept. I'll check it out!

Armando · « **Reply #280 on:** December 17, 2007, 10:36 PM »

Thanks!

Search: In QuickSearch, I now display, in the search result grid, all fields that have the search text (except the HTML pane related ones because they can be large)

Empty items: CTRL-E now does not show a confirmation when the item is empty and the only assigned field is the grid source field (which was auto-assigned anyway)

Full undo will come as a freebee with disconnected mode (after release 1.0)

Grids sub-menu: The reason why it is there is that the Grid menu is not shown when no grid is open or when the current form is not a grid. In Ecco, it was also in the view menu... Keep in mind that Grids are just one of the (eventual) many display modes. The forthcoming Calendar is another display mode and the grid menu will not apply to it. It will have a Calendar menu. But suggestions are always welcomed, and menu structure is definitely not final. It is also very easy to re-arrange it if need be.

Changes are available in the latest build, as usual.
-PPLandry (December 17, 2007, 10:46 AM)

Great ! That was quick...

I'll try to check that out tonight.

PPLandry · « **Reply #281 on:** December 17, 2007, 10:41 PM »

>Great ! That was quick...

When I get good ideas, simple to do, I might as well do it immediately.

Plus with all the snow we got here, I spent so much time shovling that I didn't have much time to start anything major. I'm also waiting before starting something big in case minor bugs get reported with the new version.

PPLandry · « **Reply #282 on:** December 17, 2007, 11:33 PM »

Time is running out to find a replacement name for SQLNotes... I need your help. If you want SQLNotes to succeed, it needs a good name. So please come in and comment/propose names

My latest proposition is OutBase, the outlining database/PIM.
Or Daou, the data outliner (along the lines of Zoho, Rico, IPod, etc)

www. outbase.biz is free

Armando · « **Reply #283 on:** December 17, 2007, 11:36 PM »

Ahah
Yes, THAT snow...

I met friends for a nice dinner at a nearby restaurant last night and we had to cut through the snow to get there. Parking wasn't exactly simple...

Armando · « **Reply #284 on:** December 17, 2007, 11:38 PM »

Okay... I'll try to keep my brain receptive to sexy names...

PPLandry · « **Reply #285 on:** December 17, 2007, 11:38 PM »

The snow banks are 6 ft high here, and winter hasn't officially arrived yet.

tomos · « **Reply #286 on:** December 18, 2007, 03:42 AM »

My latest proposition is OutBase, the outlining database/PIM.
Or Daou, the data outliner (along the lines of Zoho, Rico, IPod, etc)
-PPLandry (December 17, 2007, 11:33 PM)

I was going to suggest simplifying it to Dao (as in Tao) but it seems that's kindof taken
http://en.wikipedia....i/Data_Access_Object

I'm not a big fan of outbase on first impressions - it doesnt flow - two different broad vowels make it a mouthful to say

DBase [gone

]

would you be against the idea of a descriptive name with "catchy" initials?
Super Flexible File Synchroniser comes to mind but a name I always a bit unsure of - SFFS on other hand I like...

or open to idea of name tha has nothing to do with what the app does - e.g. Zoho -
I guess you are open to that with Daou

just thinking out loud at this stage - will go and think quietly

tinjaw · « **Reply #287 on:** December 18, 2007, 07:30 AM »

adatabas

tomos · « **Reply #288 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:33 AM »

adatabas
-tinjaw (December 18, 2007, 07:30 AM)

followed that link, while I was looking down through the list 3 of them changed from "Available" to "Make Offer"

maybe someone else had the same idea

PPLandry · « **Reply #289 on:** December 18, 2007, 08:54 AM »

followed that link, while I was looking down through the list 3 of them changed from "Available" to "Make Offer"
maybe someone else had the same idea
-tomos (December 18, 2007, 08:33 AM)

No, I think that it simply updates the status in the background

Darwin · « **Reply #290 on:** December 18, 2007, 09:05 AM »

I keep coming back to Squirrel Database - it's been stuck in my head for about a week. Don't know why!

PPLandry · « **Reply #291 on:** December 18, 2007, 09:57 AM »

I keep coming back to Squirrel Database - it's been stuck in my head for about a week. Don't know why!
-Darwin (December 18, 2007, 09:05 AM)

It's cute, but difficult to say in many non-english languages

How about YourPlan, or IkiPlan ?
Plan what you need to do (calendar, tasks)
Plan is an outlined steps list to achieve a goal

Iki would be a reference to Wiki, to Interactive, c(k)olapsable

Also DaPlan, DePlan, ZePlan, YouPlan

tomos · « **Reply #292 on:** December 18, 2007, 10:04 AM »

UrPlanner
(YourPlanner* & in german Ur = ancestral indigenous primal primary primordial prototype adj.)

UPlan

De/Da/Ze-Plan had me laughing but are they a bit too light? (or that maybe good too?)

maybe Planner make it sound too much like *just* a planner..

tomos · « **Reply #293 on:** December 18, 2007, 10:06 AM »

or keeping with the trends:

uPlan

PPLandry · « **Reply #294 on:** December 18, 2007, 10:51 AM »

Check out this page for a summary of all proposed names:
http://www.sqlnotes....e/posts/Default.aspx

Winning name will get a free full licence

superboyac · « **Reply #295 on:** December 18, 2007, 10:55 AM »

Hmm, I always like picking names (I'm a musician, so it's fun choosing album names or group names).
SQLNotes is so much more than an outliner. It's also a database, notetaker, webclipper (potentially), scheduler, calendar, mindmapper (potentially). It's a PIM, but very different and more flexible than other PIM's out there. I think the name should reflect that somewhat.

Don't use Tao, there is already a TaoNotes out there and it's a funky program. How about these suggestions:
FlexiPIM
DataFlex
PowerPIM
PIMP (sorry couldn't resist)
GridMaster
Datamolder
MindPad (I like this one)
Outline Commander (I like this also)

Darwin · « **Reply #296 on:** December 18, 2007, 11:01 AM »

I still like SQLNotes, actually. There, I said it

PPLandry · « **Reply #297 on:** December 18, 2007, 11:03 AM »

I still like SQLNotes, actually. There, I said it
-Darwin (December 18, 2007, 11:01 AM)

I don't mind it either, but so many people hate it (really!) that I think it must change

Darwin · « **Reply #298 on:** December 18, 2007, 11:12 AM »

Nice suggestions, Superboyac. One thing I realize from looking at the list of suggestions on the sqlnotes site is that the name SHOULD be descriptive of what the software does - names like Squirrel and Synergy (which I actually quite like, too) are liable to start sounding dated and a bit silly as time goes by...

How about Data Commander?

superboyac · « **Reply #299 on:** December 18, 2007, 11:16 AM »

Nice suggestions, Superboyac. One thing I realize from looking at the list of suggestions on the sqlnotes site is that the name SHOULD be descriptive of what the software does - names like Squirrel and Synergy (which I actually quite like, too) are liable to start sounding dated and a bit silly as time goes by...

How about Data Commander?

-Darwin (December 18, 2007, 11:12 AM)

That's good too, the Commander part gives it a poweruser feel. When I hear things like iPod and such, it doesn't have as professional a feel to it...it reminds me of bubbly programs geared towards teenagers. I think we definitely want SQLNotes to have a professional feel to it.