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Developer's Corner / Ethics in Technology
« Last post by wraith808 on September 21, 2015, 06:43 PM »
So, I've never personally been confronted with this, and I'm glad, because the reality of it is I sadly don't think I know what I'd do if I was.

From the AVG bit, to the Microsoft Privacy concerns, to Volkswagon's dodge around emissions, it's the developers and engineers that are the first (or is that last) line of defense against companies using technology for purposes that are against the public good.

In particular, on Volkswagon's dodge, it appears that the implementation had to be spot on in order to get away with it for this long:
Michigan Radio's Tracy Samilton reports for our Newscast unit:

"The German automaker will have to recall about 482,000 Audi and Volkswagen cars with 4-cylinder turbo diesel engines. The issue affects 2009 through 2015 model years.
"The cars have devices that turn emissions controls on during tests and off during normal driving.
"The deception is a serious violation of the Clean Air Act, for which CEO Martin Winterkorn says he is personally deeply sorry, and he promises the company will do whatever is necessary to reverse the damage this has caused. The company faces potentially billions in fines and other costs."

On Friday, the EPA and the California Air Resources Board said that a "defeat device" had allowed diesel Jettas, Beetles and other cars to "emit up to 40 times more pollution" than allowed under U.S. standards.

Saying that Volkswagen has ordered an external investigation of the software exploit that skirted U.S. emissions tests, Winterkorn stated, "We do not and will not tolerate violations of any kind of our internal rules or of the law."

I never took an ethics class for software engineers- it wasn't required when I was in school.  I don't know if it is, and if they cover this now.  And are there other ramifications, in particular this doesn't sound good for anyone involved:

"Using a defeat device in cars to evade clean air standards is illegal and a threat to public health," said Cynthia Giles, assistant administrator for the Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance.

I thought this would make good food for discussion from a higher level (no politics in this, please to keep it above ground).

Personally, I'm not sure that I could do what I would want to- i.e. tell them to stuff it and just walk out.  I support a pretty substantial family, and I'm the only one really working.  I would hope that what I would do is bide my time until I found something else and jump ship.  I would hope that I couldn't continue to work for such a company.  But hope is the truthful word, if I look at it honestly.

Thoughts?
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Again, that has nothing to do with the cloud, nor does it have anything to do with sharing passwords with other people. Nor does it have anything to do with LastPass.

Oh, so they compare the password managers without comparing their features vs. each other?

Correct.  You can make that determination based on your needs and wants.  I hate when reviews try to compare apples to oranges in terms of features.  Compare how they implemented (or didn't implement) what they implemented, and list those things clearly.  Let me draw the other conclusions when comparing software.  Else the review doesn't stand on it's own.
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Found Deals and Discounts / Sticky Password Premium - 1 year free
« Last post by wraith808 on September 21, 2015, 01:26 PM »
Promo link: https://www.stickypa...5&utm_content=lp
Promo type:
Giveaway

Found at http://malwaretips.c...m-1-year-free.50434/.

Page is apparently in Russian, and I haven't tried it.
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I'm also not super fond of how you master password seems to be tied to your StickyAccount. They might have implemented in a secure and zero-knowledge way, but it feels a bit odd.

From Sticky Password:

"Only you know your Master Password. The authentication that takes place when Sticky Password syncs or performs a backup to the cloud (Sticky Password uses Amazon cloud services for our backend services) involves only your StickyID (your email address) and your StickyPass – which is different to your Master Password. For syncing and backing up to the backend servers, only the encrypted database is sent over the Internet, so even if an attacker were lucky enough to catch the communication he wouldn’t be able access the encrypted data inside the DB."
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Good comparison of password services with ranking:

http://www.asecureli...roboform-vs-keepass/

Interesting bit (and breaking point) for using dashlane (if it's still true)

Dashlane servers went down recently and left me unable to access my passwords for most of a day. They don’t have a way to bypass contacting servers and let you use locally saved password archive. Until they fix this, you are out of luck if their servers go down. -Timothy B., PC MAG 2/2015
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General Software Discussion / Re: Chocolatey...opinions? portable?
« Last post by wraith808 on September 21, 2015, 12:49 PM »
I'd seen that one and discarded it also for some reason, which was the reason I didn't mention it.

He he.  When I try to investigate it, my brain cringes at the seeming amount of effort involved in assessing it :)  Source is available though (at least partly Python?).

I remember why now.  With no English documentation, I didn't feel I wanted to go in that direction.  Superficial... maybe?  But definitely a breaking point for me.
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@f0dder: if you're interested in Sticky Password. Premium,  it's fairly often on Bits du Jour, and appears so now:
Thanks, it's tempting - even if it's still a pretty steep price for a password manager.

Also, I tried installing it on OSX, but it claims the StickyPassword for my account is wrong... even though I can login to the StickyAccount just fine from that system in a webbrowser. Not very confidence inspiring! I'm also not super fond of how you master password seems to be tied to your StickyAccount. They might have implemented in a secure and zero-knowledge way, but it feels a bit odd.


At $49.99, it's exactly the same price as 1Password... but for a lifetime license.  I'm thinking about at least trying it...
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What about in the popup?  Those are the ones that I didn't recognize.  And what is SaverPal?  I tried a search... but couldn't find it other than a reference on ProcessChecker
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Living Room / Re: Micro Reviews of Board Games From a Non-Competetive Perspective
« Last post by wraith808 on September 21, 2015, 11:31 AM »
well i never played magic the gathering, though i have watched some of it being played -- and from watching i know it can get quite complicated.
there has been a rebellion against the "collectible" aspect of card games, as seen in magic the gathering, and most new deck builders do not follow this path.
instead there are fixed card sets that everyone can by for affordable prices and there aren't these super rare expensive cards, etc.

I was really into Magic The Gathering for several years (1993-1996). Still own quite a few custom-built decks. The problem I have with MTG is that there is power-bloat in successive card sets when compared to earlier card sets. They let things get a bit out of control in that area.

I was into playing at the very beginning.  But I really had fun when I got into selling them.  Financed part of my college with the proceeds  ;D  Amazing what 1st ed black lotus and other cards were going for at the time.  Opportunistic?  Who... me?  Nah... just a poor college student.  ;D :Thmbsup:
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- look inside his spoiler.
  The spoiler just shows the start menu, and gives some inkling on a few that might have been obscure, but not all.
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Put bluntly, "Oh Hai Brand New Browser. How did you know I was downloading medical files last week? And it's a nice crispy list now. So where are you sending that list that you gloriously refuse to tell me?"
"Ssssh. It's Convenient!"

So my guess is it just reads the history of whatever Windows or another (installed, non-private) browser has already done.

Blame your other browser, it seems.  Because the one that you already have there is 'spying' on you too.  It just wasn't up front about it.  :huh:
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Does she like Solitaire?

You mean "Klondike/Canfield".

As I have been amiably advising while visiting some local Chinese kids, "Klondike" is not "Solitaire". Solitaire is a *category*. "Klondike" is the most famous variant in that class.

But when her eyes get tired, buy her a twin deck of cards and teach her how to play German Spider. That's also ... Solitaire! And it has such a stunning different feel that she might like a break from stuff. Just make sure it's a big table!

If anyone actually cares, we can branch a thread out. This was just to niggle that "the game Bill Gates put on MS Windows" is a "class violation" or something : )




Just like tissue is not Kleenex, gelatin is not Jell-O, and search is not Google, and... you get the idea.  The ship sailed on the language of all of those things long ago, and even though you just said that, I'll still refer to it as solitaire, because most people will understand that.  And this is despite knowing it forever, as I went through several of the variants and different types.  In the end, it's better to use common nomenclature once the ship sails, and the most common variant is most common for a reason- it's easier to teach, and more fun in general in my estimation.  ;D
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Official Announcements / Re: Forum Upgraded August 30, 2015 - Report issues here
« Last post by wraith808 on September 20, 2015, 10:29 AM »
fyi: Forum upgraded to v2.0.11.
What's new ? :)



You can always go to http://download.simplemachines.org/ and the most recent change log will be at the bottom of the page.  :Thmbsup:
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Just to be clear, MS Office 365 is installed and runs locally on your PC, and you don't need to save anything in the cloud.

This is correct. I have it, and use it, and I always have the choice of where to save.  And it keeps my last locations handy, and if I open something and do a save as, it defaults to that same location. 

This is the save dialog for a new document:

word2013save.png

I don't see how that's any different than the current versions affinity for c:\users\username\documents
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I wasn't talking about deleting anything. I was talking about the fact that if you installed it, and it immediately had this list, it just culled it from your OS.  It didn't cultivate this list itself.  It was just revealing what was there.

I could be wrong, but I think the point Tao was trying to make is not where this list came from or why the list was there, but why would a browser have access to the last 15 days activity on his PC? For what purpose did the developer program this 'feature'?

I, for one, do not see why a browser would need to keep track of any of my activities other than browsing & download history. If a web browser is keeping track of what videos I watch, what Word documents I open, and what files I copy to what directories then that browser needs to be uninstalled. I have never used SlimJet and if this is not the kind of activity Tao means then please ignore my ramblings.



My point was that he'd just installed it.  Which means it's not keeping track... something else is.  Not that one might not wonder why they are harvesting this information, but there is something on his OS already that is collecting it, which is the larger question and offender, in my opinion.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Chocolatey...opinions? portable?
« Last post by wraith808 on September 18, 2015, 09:52 PM »
Another one that was also on panzer's list that looked worth checking out was WAPT but I haven't done so yet.

I'd seen that one and discarded it also for some reason, which was the reason I didn't mention it.
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A lot better!  My PHPStorm license would cost $74 under the old plan, and now it's $53.  That's an annual license, but the second year is free.
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If it immediately had it, then it retrieved it from your local machine, not what it was personally collecting, no?  So the information is there, and it just accessed it.  So even after you uninstalled, it's still there.

Just food for thought.

I was a bit unclear, I meant it didn't delete anything, but now it has a list of stuff which roughly looked to be recently added files. So I have to assume that list of files is floating around out there. Nothing the end of the world, but I can see if it was allowed to stay it would get more and more. So I presume for example it doesn't have today's info. But boring web browsers shouldn't be doing that.

But I can see if someone had a juicy file name, that can drift into bait for ransomware, which we just saw recently in a couple of articles.



I wasn't talking about deleting anything. I was talking about the fact that if you installed it, and it immediately had this list, it just culled it from your OS.  It didn't cultivate this list itself.  It was just revealing what was there.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Chocolatey...opinions? portable?
« Last post by wraith808 on September 18, 2015, 01:57 PM »
More info: Win-Get and Windows-Get seem abandoned.  The last update date on them is quite old, and looking at the repos, the versions of the software available is likewise ancient.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Chocolatey...opinions? portable?
« Last post by wraith808 on September 18, 2015, 01:44 PM »
More info: OneGet is included in windows 10.  Go to the powershell console, and type Get-PackageProvider to see the providers available.  So I guess that maybe this was what MS was intending to include, but it wasn't finished for public consumption?

It can also install chocolatey packages: Get-PackageSource -Provider chocolatey retrieves the package source.  It looks quite interesting, but I have to do more research.

UPDATE: Get-Package from the powershell prompt shows *everything* you have installed.  It's pretty cool!
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General Software Discussion / Re: Chocolatey...opinions? portable?
« Last post by wraith808 on September 18, 2015, 01:35 PM »
More info: Gow is a shell, not a package manager.  It's an alternative for windows to Cygwin.  But it was a welcome find for other reasons, even so.  I'd stopped using Cygwin because it was so huge.  Gow is apparently small.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Chocolatey...opinions? portable?
« Last post by wraith808 on September 18, 2015, 01:31 PM »
.net is a part of Windows anyway, right?

It is.  But don't know what version it requires.  You'll need to have that particular version of .NET.  And all installations might not have it.  Usually .NET dependent programs aren't said to be 'truly portable', even though for all intents and purposes they might be.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Chocolatey...opinions? portable?
« Last post by wraith808 on September 18, 2015, 12:43 PM »
Zero Install looks quite nice.  The decentralized nature is intriguing, and it actually looks like something that might fit ewemoa's reqs.

UPDATE: Scratch that part about the reqs.  It requires .NET for the windows version.

UPDATE2: You might be able to build it from sources... it' uses OCAML, so I'm not sure why the windows version requires .NET.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Chocolatey...opinions? portable?
« Last post by wraith808 on September 18, 2015, 12:38 PM »
AUM in normal techical ling = Repo(sitory) for clarity of terminology.  And I wouldn't really view Windows Update as a repo, as you don't install from it- only update.  Microsoft had said to be developing a repo manager for Windows 10, but it is sadly not present.

By the same token, I'd not consider nuget to be in the same conversation, as it says in it's definition on nuget.org

NuGet is the package manager for the Microsoft development platform including .NET.

with development being the key word.  I'd put it in the same category as PsGet, as they're for very specific uses.
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Developer's Corner / Re: Confessions of a free-to-play games producer
« Last post by wraith808 on September 18, 2015, 11:11 AM »
So does anyone know how these other games get this kind of info? "We know where you live, we know your income level, we know your relationships, your favorite sports teams, your political preferences. We know when you go to work, and where you work."

Just a guess, but I imagine that it's because most people don't pay much attention to the permissions granted to games installed on their devices.  So the games are granted all sorts of permissions and simply watch whatever else is happening on the device and report back to the company.


^ This.  I go on facebook sparingly, but I have one friend I play words with friends with, and though I know I shouldn't... I do.  And having fiddler up while you connect to that site?  It's quite eyeopening.  And that's just the tip of the iceberg.  Even the one that I know is a single-man shop (Galaxy Legion) has some things in there that are being done by facebook that are quite dodgy.
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