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# 666  wonder if that means anything

Means you're very welcome here and we hope you have a devil of a good time!
-cranioscopical (February 14, 2011, 07:59 PM)

Perhaps you could demonstrate to the newcomer exactly what you mean?

Official Announcements / Re: January 2011 Giveaway - Winners Posted
« on: February 14, 2011, 05:14 AM »
God is in the details.

Well, English not being my native language, I use whatever seems right at the moment. I often wonder how do native speakers perceive my "creative" use of English.

Wait, what? You are not a native English speaker? You fooled me!  :)


Available today again at Bits du Jour for $74:

FYI: Goalscape Connect is the Cloud Version that loads in the browser.

+1  I bought it on the last BDJ (Jan/4/2011) and love it!  I don't use it for everything, but the visualization in a "pie chart" can't be beat IMO! 

+1 for the support.  I had an issue and it was resolved in several emails in a half a day!


N.A.N.Y. 2011 / Re: NANY MUGs
« on: February 13, 2011, 11:27 PM »
The mug reached me yesterday but I cannot show it to you atm - the problem is my wife: She said it must stay in the cellar until I get a second cup next year. We´re still using the last two we got for our daily coffee :D.

+1  Crush, I think this is really neat!  :Thmbsup:

@Mouser, don't expect to see the picture of my 2012 NANY mug until 2014!  ;)


N.A.N.Y. 2011 / Re: NANY MUGs
« on: February 12, 2011, 03:32 PM »
My pride and joy - a three mug DC collection:
 (see attachment in previous post)
I was going to go for a bear this year, but I sort of forgot about it. Maybe I'll do something a bit more exotic next year. DC thong or something.

Maybe you should get a t-shirt that shows the three mugs on the front with "I was mugged!" on the back?


Timns Apps / Re: Auspex Tips, Tricks and Uses
« on: February 05, 2011, 07:52 PM »
Some of those ideas make me see red!
-cranioscopical (January 25, 2011, 05:46 PM)

Settle down... some of the words are red.   ;)

Living Room / Re: What would Cody's music sound like?
« on: February 05, 2011, 06:47 PM »
So "way cool" AFAIC. Do us up some more!  :Thmbsup:

Ok, per your request.  Not exactly what I was trying to originally put together, but it sounded interesting even if a little dark.  FYI - I tried to explore different ideas and tried to spotlight the < 100 Hz where I could.  ;)


Living Room / Re: What would Cody's music sound like?
« on: February 05, 2011, 01:14 PM »
(you mean this is your recording/playing? very impressive.)


Reminds me of an circa 1990's american sit-com introduction (not unlike Seinfeld or similar)...or could even be used in ?? tbh lmao...

Cool music it you playing CT?

Thanks!  I was actually targeting the late 60's, early 70's rock style interludes, but I'll take what I can get.  ;)

Living Room / Re: What would Cody's music sound like?
« on: February 05, 2011, 01:09 PM »
ah, right. interesting. not as impressive as you playing it but i appreciate how getting the right blend of samples isn't necessarily a simple task either.

if there's ever a DC podcast again - i can imagine this to be a good tune to use as the intro (or something).

If you think it would work, I can work on it some more by polishing it up a little?

Living Room / Re: What would Cody's music sound like?
« on: February 05, 2011, 01:01 PM »
(you mean this is your recording/playing? very impressive.)

it wouldn't be out of place for Cody; i've heard all sorts of music coming from his nest. very apt for a Cody, kicking-back type of weekend.

Yes and no.  I put the musical "legos" (samples) together, but the individual "playing" is not mine.  All I did was create the layers, choose the instruments, style and place the clips, but it was mostly random.  I just got lucky.  I seem to have a good talent for taking the talents of others and modifying them, like I did with the old Johnny River's song for my tribute to Perry Mowbray for his outstanding contribution to NANY.

The name of the the program is Music Maker by Magix.  

Thanks for the flowers.  :-*


Living Room / What would Cody's music sound like?
« on: February 05, 2011, 11:13 AM »
Ever noticed when you visit someone oftentimes they will have music playing in the background.  This morning I was playing around and came up with a strain that just made me feel like I was walking through the beaded arched doorway of Cody's pad.  The experience was complete with some lava lamps, black light posters and the hint of ginseng incense in the air.

FYI - I am not the musicians.

Click the link to hear the music...

Official Announcements / Re: January 2011 Giveaway - Winners Posted
« on: February 05, 2011, 01:46 AM »

God is in the details.

For those that are as ignorant as I am was...



Official Announcements / Re: January 2011 Giveaway - Winners Posted
« on: February 04, 2011, 05:53 PM »
Agreed  :Thmbsup:  He's DoCo's Agent P!

+1 and here is something I composed just for fun!!

"Secret DoCo Man"

(Sung to Johnny River's "Secret Agent Man")
You can sing along with this MIDI file...


Verse 1
There was one who joined back in '05.
He was just another member here,
But it wouldn't be too long before he'd earn this song.
'Now lead's all the NANY's that go on here!

Secret DoCo Man, Secret DoCo Man
He works with all the members in every way he can.

Verse 2
Mr. Mowbray works without expecting...
In seeking praise, he never makes a peep,
But one must wonder when his next project begins
Because it is obvious he don't sleep!


<Musical Interlude>


Verse 3
Our beloved Mouser does all that he can.
But the load is too heavy for just one man.
Now he can shout "Yippie!" for a fellow named, "Perry."
'cause now Mouser can go get a sun tan!



Thanks again, Mouser & Perry!


Official Announcements / Re: January 2011 Giveaway - Winners Posted
« on: February 04, 2011, 03:09 AM »
Thank you Mouser, Perry and ??,

Just a note to say I appreciate the work and effort it takes to put something like this together!

A thank you is also in order to vlastimil for being so generous.  The RW Icon Editor is not only perfect for my needs, but also perfectly timed!  I was looking for an icon creator/editor to purchase when this kindness fell into my lap!   

"Thank you!" to and all the vendors that participated!  I look forward to putting it through its paces as soon as I can!  I am very happy with receiving BB Flashback Pro, which reminds me...

...the announcement email stated I should be "90% happy."  That is wrong... I am 100% happy!   :D


Living Room / "Battleship" Music Machine (Chord Sound Grid )
« on: February 02, 2011, 11:02 PM »
I am asking assistance in locating something my own searches have failed to find.   For lack of a better description I call it a "Battleship" Music Machine or a chord grid thingamajiggy.   

If you remember the old Battleship Game played on a 10 x10 grid (A-J and 1-10).  I am looking for something sort of designed like that. 

Essentially I am hoping to find an electronic device or software which is a grid of buttons(?).  Each row would be a pitch (C, C#, D, Eb, E, etc.) and each column would be a chord voicing (Major,  Minor, Maj7th, Min7th, etc.).  The idea is press a button where the "coordinates"  converge and "hear" what the chord sounds like to identify how the chords "work" for composing.  Something like an electronic "autoharp," if you know what that is?

I never learned how to play a piano, so I have to have something that will let me tryout a chord progression before I commit it to my score.

I will be glad to clarify, if necessary, but I hope I have given a decent picture of what I am after.  I have hundreds of songs in my head and they locked in there because I can't play well enough to get them out nor can I sing clear enough to get across to someone what I'm thinking.  An exercise in frustration, for sure.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

N.A.N.Y. 2011 / Re: NANY MUGs
« on: February 01, 2011, 03:28 PM »
Thank you, mouser,

I finally ordered my mug too!  I was in a quandary about which one to get and the laser tower was quite provoking.  In the end, I chose the "exhausted Cody" because I thought it represented the true NANY participation experience!   

Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: February 01, 2011, 01:57 AM »
I never thought a simple question about an ancient artifact would have resulted in this!?  

I must admit I did become a little whimsical in foisting on everyone my "Dark Planet" scenario. I am disappointed very little attention has been paid to the potential reality associated with my fictional conjectures which have all been completely consistent with the known physical laws.  Instead of a general beneficial dialectic exploring possibilities "outside of the box," most of what has been offered seems to be intent on protecting some sacred cows. Even Gene Roddenberry understood that science was, " boldly go where no one has gone before." Why can't we?

Shortly after initiating this thread, I chose the doomsday vector. I could just as easily have purported a more docile scenario, but it wouldn't have been as near as much fun!  :)

FWIW, my curiosity has been satisfied and my panorama on this subject has been widely expanded, so I consider the venture a success.  The best part of this community is the freedom to be yourself and not have to fear irresponsible retribution.

Thanks to all who added something to the thread, regardless of the content.  


Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: January 31, 2011, 09:28 PM »
Uh... so basically all knowledge is questionable, especially any presented by anything resembling an "authority". Therefore believe whatever you want and feel free to try to convince others of it. For my part the lack of acknowledgment of basic physics in this thread (e.g. if a "dark" body passed close enough to obscure parts of the sky with its disc, it would cause huge gravitational issues for one thing) means I shan't continue in it. I'm afraid I'm just a bit too serious for the fun here. :D

- Oshyan

Uh... no I am not suggesting to "Question Authority," but I will not ascribe the full attributes due knowledge to anything that is labeled, "knowledge" by anyone who chooses to exalt his/her understanding.  To do so moves one from what is real to what one believes to be real, simply because a favored celebrity of science says so.  Stephen Hawkings has stated numerous things he understands about the universe.  Unfortunately, he chooses to negate and dismiss items of reality I have experienced directly; therefore, I cannot apply the badge of "authority" to his "knowledge."  For me to do that would be to "see" the "Emperor's New Clothes," just like everyone else.

In regard to physics, to equate size of the appearance of a celestial body to it's density is not logical.  The singularity of a black hole's gravitational effects would be disastrously underestimated in such a case.  At some point, a "black disk" in the night sky will have a gravitational effect, but it does not follow it would be strong enough until quite close, perhaps... too close.

Sorry you feel you have to vacate, but I hope you have fun wherever you go!  :)


Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: January 31, 2011, 05:00 PM »
Please accept my rebuttal as friendly "sparring."  That's the way I received your comments! 

Me too :)

That is good to know! :Thmbsup:

When it comes to predicting a collision between planets, comets, etc, I do believe the math is extremely complicated. Predicting planet movements under the assumption for circular orbits (be they around the sun or earth) is one thing, but trying to predict the future path of a comet with potential to collide with the earth requires an awful lot of background knowledge together with extremely accurate observations..
Not if you are sitting on one of the planets.

So my suggestion for a disproof is that a) If records of the Mayans math and science levels are sufficiently comprehensive, and b) If they show that the Mayans did not have this necessary background knowledge - Then one could say with significant confidence that the Mayan calendar ending is not based an an accurate prediction of an impending collision.

Two big If's I know, but I just pointing out one way in which the Dark Planet theory could very genuinely be disproved
If my "Dark Planet" scenario was based on the calculus(?) level equations your explanation uses as a basis and was related to *my* scenario, your negation of the "Dark Planet" might be valid.  The only issue is my scenario of the "Dark Planet" is solely based on simple observations and data collection.


Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: January 31, 2011, 04:49 PM »
Erm, did no one see my post showing that the Mayan calendar is no more "ending" in 2012 than our own calendars end at the end of our year (or at the end of 100 years, or at the end of the date range current computers can show)? The entire basis for the question is spurious, it's like asking "Why is the moon made of cheese?" when in fact the moon is not made of cheese. :D
Yes, and I have offered a comprehensive reply.  :)  

Before I proceed further, I need to state it is my understanding the Maya literature and records are not an open book, but is still very cryptic.  There are many gaps in the linguistic understanding.

The reply I spoke of speaks only on what *I* know, not what I don't know.  I will not rehash it here except to say...

1. Your position depends entirely on not what you know, but on what you are persuaded of in the integrity in what others profess to know.  If what you have offered in your links is; indeed, fact then it follows your position is valid.  Unfortunately, whether the sources are fact or fiction is not easily known, so we are left with opinion and preference.

2. There are far too many people stating "facts" as if they have personal participation in the subject when they are simply parroting what some "expert" said.  I am not denigrating every scholarly author or spokesperson, I am trying to point out that unless you *know* something by direct personal experience, you cannot say you know it with any degree of integrity.  You can say you believe it, have faith in the information, confidence in the author, but you cannot profess you know it if you do not.  Simple point, but boy, does it get lost in the hub-bub sometimes.  Again, I am not trying to scratch hash marks on my side of the board, but I am interested in keeping the debate on solid footing.

Even assuming advanced orbital mechanics knowledge they would also have needed telescopes at the least to see any celestial body that we in modern times haven't noticed ourselves.
You make two assumptions here (I will use the "Dark Planet" here, but work with me)...

1. The Maya did not need telescopes to see the "Dark Planet" nor would you!  Here's why.  Have you ever been on mountaintops where the visible stars are so thick the entire sky looks like the Milky Way with a back light?  If you have, imagine how clear the view would be from the seat high atop a Mayan mountain top observatory?  I will not exceed the confines of reason in saying, if a planet-sized celestial object passed close enough between the observer and the stars, the astronomer need not "see" the object.  The disk of the object will hide the stars as it sweeps across the sky.  The observer would "see" circle of darkness eclipsing the stars behind it.  Again, not fracturing the fences of rational thought, if that instance was recorded along with its relative size every time it passed and with each passing the disk blocked more and more stars appearing to be faster and faster, would it require a degree in astrophysics to realize the object was either getting bigger or closer?  Obviously not.  Simple sequential comparison would unveil the already known truth.  The "primitive" astronomer would realize, if these phenomenon continue unchanged, the disk will consume all the stars and will be an ever greater threat of collision, depending on the mix of pure science, lore, religion, etc. which framed the astronomer's world view.

2. To assume the Mayan astronomers couldn't have seen something unless we have seen it is somewhat one-sided, isn't it?  I'll grant you there wouldn't be much modern science would not have discovered, but to say we have seen it all is stretching into the realms of opinion.

Note that I leave open the possibility that there are unknown objects out there close enough to hit us *and* on a periodic cycle, even though this is extremely unlikely unless the cycle was long enough to escape being recorded in modern history (the past 2000+ years), which would mean it was longer than the Mayan civilization's lifetime anyway and there would be no way for them to know it would return even if they saw it once. That's a whole lot of if's!

- Oshyan

Again, you are stating the whole of the celestial sphere has been under scrutiny for the last two millennium.  I can't agree, given the overwhelming majority of "progressive" astronomy was stuck in the area surrounding the British Isles and Europe.  It was where civilization has been grounded for those two-thousand years.  Colleges and other centers of learning were a product of the maturing science.  Today, the population of professional terrestrially-bound observers is far more concentrated above the Equator than below.  I am persuaded the population ratio grows proportionally the further back you go within those 2,000 years.

One of those "ifs" that should be included must be the capability of the Maya to record due to their affinity to the written "word."  Perhaps the Maya were more community minded than ourselves and scribed data to serve generations they would never see?

In closing, I want to place my suppositions in a familiar context.  Not that you or the other readers have actually done this, but it should be within a context almost everyone can understand.

Imagine you are sitting comfortably in a large open area of solid ground.  It is very dark, pitch black even with only the glow of the city lights beyond the horizon giving a frame of context.  The vista in front of you is wide open and you are facing in the direction of the lighted horizon.  About 75 yards behind you is a huge line of hills, almost mountains.  The hill-mountain "range" stretches about a mile to your right, although you can't see that far.  Around the end of that "range" is a buddy of yours just enjoying the solitude.  The "range" stretches to your left to the horizon.  No stars are visible.

As you are sitting enjoying the way the softness of the city glow plays against the horizon, you detect a rapid object move across the horizon, blocking out the luminescence behind it.  It is gone as quickly as it came.  You thought it was something of note so you record the time/date/size, but you take a guess at the speed since you did not time it.  (I'm sure you can tell where I'm going with this, eh?).

You settle in to enjoy the the aviance of the moment and you detect the same vehicle(?) enters the scene, but you quickly time the passing.  Again, you record the data.  Hmmm.... is it your imagination or did it seem a tiny bit quicker and a hint larger?

Again this scenario repeats itself, but you notice when the vehicle(?) is directly in front of you there are exactly seven minutes to the second between each center-take.

After several more passings, each exactly seven minutes in the interval, you conclude it is a vehicle and it is displaying no lights of any kind.  Recall you are sitting out in a large open area and the vehicle is traveling a course that appears to run parallel, but ever closer to your latitude.

Several more passings.  You attempt to follow where it goes and where it comes from, but you cannot.  The only thing you can be certain of is the seven minutes to the second to see it directly in front hiding more and more of the soft glow every seven minutes.  Only now, you have been able to discern the vehicle is moving to a nearer parallel with each pass.  Every trek down the latitude line is one foot closer than it was before.

There are only 23 one-foot "latitudes" between you and that menacing vehicular apparition.  
23 x 7 = 161
Just one-hundred and sixty-one minutes left... only a little less than 2-3/4 hours until the relentless and calculated advance will travel on the very parallel where you are sitting alone and in the dark.

Ok, enough of my version of the "Pit and the Pendulum."  Since the corollary to the "Dark Planet" scenario is so blatant, I'll refrain from offering any explanation, but I did have fun writing it!  :Thmbsup:          

I'll simply ask *if* the ifs in my discourse are not more plausible?


Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: January 31, 2011, 02:31 PM »
The calendar doesn't "end" any more than the one hanging on your wall does on December 31st. It's just the beginning of a new cycle, end of story. It's happened before in recorded history several times (notice: no cataclysms those times) and it will happen again:

Thanks for breathing what appears to be reality into this hype-laden subject.  I appreciate the links.

Not to mention that the date from the Mayan calendar may not be properly correlated with our (Gregorian) calendar anyway: http://www.livescien...calendar-101018.html

- Oshyan

Yep, I was aware of that one.

I am not a conspiracy buff, but I have been in positions where what went to press was not the true reality.  My experiences have made me a bit hesitant to eliminate "hype" just because the "experts" say so.  I'll give two personal examples that I had a part in myself.  Whether you choose to accept what I relate as fact or fiction and the commensurate ramifications, you will have to judge for yourself.  I will simply state what I write is my own experience and it is fact.

1st Experience
In 1996 I had stumbled across some info (call it, "theinfo") on a major far-reaching initiative (call it, "theinitiative") on the internet about a prominent figure (call him, "theman"), wherein I said to myself, "Wow, this internet thing really does offer an opportunity to get the real dope on what is really going on!"  After several hours (and the loss of a night's sleep) I had unearthed no less than seventeen specific sites that were about "theinitiative" with much, what I considered sensitive and damaging information about "theman" and his supporting staff.  Frankly, I was astounded that morning.  I could not believe that many unique sites which checked and cross-checked (read: validated) would allow information of that nature to be available to the public at large!  It is important to note all 17 sites were unique domains, AFAICT.

After about six weeks, on a whim late one night, I decided to search for "theinitiative" again.  I only found two sites that were hits.  One was "404."  The other was a site I never came across before.  This second site displayed two frames.  On one frame was most of the particulars of "theinfo" on "theinitiative" including the name of "theman."  Even some damaging information was related.  Unfortunately, the other frame was the "eyewitness" report of an FBI agent which had uncovered and was smuggling space alien embryos to a safe place to keep the tiny alien embryos from being destroyed!  To this day, I can not discover anything about "theinitiative" and the connection to "theman." 

The implications are obvious.  What was six weeks earlier seventeen unique web sites sharing numerous aspects and a lot of important individuals involved in some pretty important stuff was now reduced to a "National Inquirer" type context right next to the plot to save alien embryos.  For me, the implications are too clear to dismiss.   

2nd Experience
I think it was mid 2007 when a multi-week campaign by a newspaper to discredit a community of people with the help of an ex-member, I'll call "Richie" blew up in their face.  This issue was quite distressing, so much so that when the newspaper covered their tracks I made a plea on DC with this post on May 11, 2007.

After many weeks of caustic lies expounded on by "Richie," this community began receiving threats of all sorts and initiatives were being discussed to remove children from the families that were part of this community among other "mob" actions.  FYI - I did not participate in the forum, but lurked constantly to try and discern who the various players were on that forum.  Remember, these were my long-time friends (20+ years) some of who had turned foes that I knew.  It was not difficult building my "roster."  I had intended on approaching various people and assist in some kind of reconciliation effort.  I never got the chance.  One night I was lurking the forum and was shocked, but relieved to see that "Richie" had confessed he had gotten offended and was going to get even.  He named others in the plot and communicated details that no one else would have known in such specifics.  I knew it was "Richie."  I knew "Richie."  I first met him as a young boy of nine (?).  I visited with him and his family every Friday evening for three years and then still was involved with his growing up.  I attended his wedding to a young woman I knew almost from her infancy.

I tried to return to those pages in short order, but to my dismay the forum had been deleted.  In a further attempt to discover pertinent details I attempted to search the paper's database.  Again, nothing even though the previous 4-5 issues of the Sunday paper prominently displayed "front-page" news about the "crimes" of the community.  After about a weeks worth of effort to find evidence of the newspaper and the reporter's callous misdoings, it became obvious that no information could be found anywhere.  Even a exhaustive search of Google's "cached pages" yielded nothing.

Again, the implications are obvious.

FWIW - I am not an Art Bell/George Noory fan.  I can count the number of times I have listened to Coast to Coast on one hand and I can count the total number of times I have listened to those of that ilk on the other hand.

While I have no concern you are attempting to do a "cover up," the two factual and personal instances I have related above allow me to read the "experts" you cited with an open mind.  I recognize that if any of the potentially catastrophic happenings were real, we in the general public would be lied to in order to manipulate the population.  Remember the reality concerning a particular defoliant named, "Agent Orange?"  Consider how the "mad" Jewish "Zionists," as they were labeled by the Nazi dailies and periodicals, kept adding a lot of "hype" and sensationalism about "railroad stock cars," "ovens," "fire!" and "extermination."  I'm persuaded many Jews were cursed with constant remembrances of the "hype" they dismissed as not plausible.  Don't fall into the "yeah, but that was Hitler's boys" trap.  The point is the population of Europe to the tune of six million plus that were Jewish were lied to to serve the purposes of the government.  Given the intelligence quotient of the audience here, there is no need to expound further on this point.

Ask yourself, if a real cataclysm of any sort was impending, would the "experts" and government spokespersons tell us the truth? Food for thought, eh?

Thanks for the reply,

Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: January 31, 2011, 12:22 PM »
@Everyone - Try to keep this thread on the topic of "Why did the Mayan calendar end?"  I really am very interested in serious commentary along with the fun.  While I am not particularly worried about my "Dark Planet" fiction, I understand the Maya to have been a culture that were technologically advanced in their sphere, but pre-dated even the time of Jesus by a factor of two.  Why would a race that had so much going for it end their calendar?   Like the king, Mongkut (Yul Brynner) lamented... "Is a puzzlement!"  

@SJ - Thanks for the flowers, I'm glad you enjoyed it!   Keep in mind it is only my imagination which connected the dots I laid out and the dots are not numbered.  Actually, I really was in the dark, but I did have to plan-it.

Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: January 31, 2011, 12:07 PM »
The one on my computer ends 31st December 2099...does that mean if the mayans are wrong, no1 will see 2100? I think not!

That may be true, but since I'm in my 50's, I'm pretty confident I won't see 2099, much less 2100!  :D

Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: January 31, 2011, 12:03 PM »
Hm. I can only say that calendar in my kitchen ends on 31st of December, 2011. And that's before Mayan :(
-fenixproductions (January 31, 2011, 11:27 AM)

Ha!  This makes me wonder (given all the hype) if your next years calendar will show December 21, 2012 as the last day with a note that says in small print at bottom...

"In case the world does not end, please attach the enclosed addendum of December 22 thru 31 here.  Please note the addendum was shipped in the original shipping envelope.  If you have lost your addendum, don't bother contacting us for replacements since you would need to allow six to eight weeks to receive the replacement."

Living Room / Re: Why does the Mayan calendar end on....?
« on: January 31, 2011, 11:53 AM »
@ Edvard

Hahaha!  Your cartoon was somewhere between bullet #1 and #2.  I really enjoyed it! 

I get what you were saying about an event of world-ending proportions would have garnered at least an honorable mention.  The only pertinent question I would venture is would cataclysmic events be highlighted if the Maya were subscribers to a fatalistic view?  If fate was the final authority in their day to day lives, an event such as a "Dark Planet" would simply be accepted, if not welcomed.  What do you think?

As far as the "no one knows the day or the hour," the Bible is not recognized as a universal standard.  Besides, there is surrounding context where these words are found which brings applicability into question, IMO.

Thanks for the quasi "Mayan Calendar Math for Dummies" type link.  I need it!  :)

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