The GIMP/PhotoFiltre/Paint.net/etc., thoughts...

[gebeleisis]

If u need to run The Gimp in the same window (I really don't see what the problem is with multiple windows) u can use http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=3892 or TameGimp (if u can find it). How they work? bo, you have to see that for yourself.
Maybe there are other plugins or software that do the same thing but I could not find another.

[Curt]

... u can use http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=3892 or TameGimp (if u can find it)...

-gebeleisis (June 26, 2007, 03:06 PM)

Backgroundwindow.exe and Backgroundwindowhook.dll from registry.gimp.org/plugin are both stamped June 2005. They do the job, but it is really not too impressive - there is this single window, and that is what they are supposed to do, give The Gimp one window only, but the window is larger than the screen, and scrolling is odd. However; they do the job:

The GIMP/PhotoFiltre/Paint.net/etc., thoughts...

I found it impossible to download TameGimp; it may (also) be too old?
This one however is not too old:


Cute! 

[zridling]

Hirudin, I see your point. Photofiltre Studio and its free version, Photofiltre, have always been a basic image editing app, i.e., good for guys with simple needs like myself, but not recommended for big or professional jobs.

[mitzevo]

Please forgive me, mitzevo, but I think you have been unfair. Paint.NET is an excellent paint program, compared to MS Paint. Paint is the program to compare Paint.NET with, not Photoshop and The Gimp.

-Curt (June 25, 2007, 04:29 PM)

Hey hey Curt.. The reason why I am listing it within the ranks of GIMP and PS is because it is very good. :-P What I mean was I never actually used it.. (Only to crop an image and add some text).. A lot of people like it - I'm not downing it in any way. 

[Curt]

Thanks, mitzevo, for clarifying.

I was impressed with the collection of plugins for Paint.NET - but as time has passed bye I too must admit that I really don't use Paint.NET. Its not a bad program in anyway, it somehow just isn't right.

[tomos]

am i [going] nuts
or
is there no "pan" tool in GImP ?

[jeez, new computer, new keyboard, one week old - cant type a capital "m" ]

back ontopic:
the pan tool being something like the hand tool in Acrobat Reader/Photoshop etc
where you can move the view of the image within the window as opposed to actually
moving the image around on the page so-to-speak.
difficult to explain in words but i reckon you all know it anyways   

It looks to me as if you have to use the scroll bars or the navigation pane/dialog.

I couldnt find anything about it in Gimpland/googleland
(well apart from the guy who thought the zoom tool was the pan tool cause the icon looked like a fryingpan )

[Perry Mowbray]

am i [going] nuts
or
is there no "pan" tool in GImP ?

-tomos (September 19, 2007, 06:15 AM)

Is this what you want:
The GIMP/PhotoFiltre/Paint.net/etc., thoughts...

Edit: Actually it's not as it only moves the selection etc. Found this on gimp.org... panning was apparently added in 2.3 (they're gearing up to release a stable 2.4 at the moment):

Changes in GIMP 2.3.12
======================
- merged the Perspective Clone tool
- allow to pan the image view using the Space bar
http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS

[rjbull]

Haven't read this thread, so apologies if this is stale news: the UK magazine Amateur Photographer has lately been recommending Picture Window Pro as a low-cost $89.99 package "that in some respects rivals Photoshop CS3 for functionality," albeit "you may struggle with the interface at first."

[cranioscopical]

(well apart from the guy who thought the zoom tool was the pan tool cause the icon looked like a fryingpan )

-tomos (September 19, 2007, 06:15 AM)

Priceless!  And, for the record, that wasn't me (though it does reflect my typical level of comprehension).   

[tomos]

(well apart from the guy who thought the zoom tool was the pan tool cause the icon looked like a fryingpan )

-tomos (September 19, 2007, 06:15 AM)

Priceless!  And, for the record, that wasn't me (though it does reflect my typical level of comprehension).   

-cranioscopical (September 19, 2007, 10:31 AM)

I didnt even click at first -
I thought -
what a great idea for a pan-tool icon !

..would be too, except for the confusion: see

> > If I click on the pan tool a thumbnail appears at the top left corner > > > of the image. > > > GIMP has a pan tool? What is that? > > Sure, you must've seen it.  The icon looks like a little frying pan. > It inserts rude comments into your image.  That's a zoom tool, the icon looks like a pan, so is that why you called it a pan tool?

[tomos]

Found this on gimp.org... panning was apparently added in 2.3 (they're gearing up to release a stable 2.4 at the moment):

Changes in GIMP 2.3.12
======================
- merged the Perspective Clone tool
- allow to pan the image view using the Space bar
http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS

-Perry Mowbray (September 19, 2007, 06:33 AM)

Thanks Perry,
I just downloaded it today & have 2.2something - 2.3 must be Beta will go check
(my old copy of Photoshop just stopped working today after I installed my old copy of illustrater but thats another story  )
In my current install of Gimp spacebar moves the image off the.. ??.. "frame" as opposed to panning.
Strange though,
that would be one of the first things I'd think about implementing for
when you zoom in & want to move around a bit - maybe it's a difficult one to code.
So I look forward to that because it does look very good, the Gimp!

Haven't read this thread, so apologies if this is stale news: the UK magazine Amateur Photographer has lately been recommending Picture Window Pro as a low-cost $89.99 package "that in some respects rivals Photoshop CS3 for functionality," albeit "you may struggle with the interface at first."

-rjbull (September 19, 2007, 08:54 AM)

looks interesting all right,
if you're in the market..

[AbteriX]

[jeez, new computer, new keyboard, one week old - cant type a capital "m" ]

-tomos (September 19, 2007, 06:15 AM)

Try ALT+77 (hold Alt-key and press the 7-key twice on num pad)

[tomos]

[jeez, new computer, new keyboard, one week old - cant type a capital "m" ]

-tomos (September 19, 2007, 06:15 AM)

Try ALT+77 (hold Alt-key and press the 7-key twice on num pad)

-AbteriX (September 19, 2007, 12:29 PM)

oops, sorry, forgot to say I sorted that out 

I had made a new hotkey in DOpus - Shift+M,
hadnt made one in a while & forgot the default is to create a systemwide hotkey -
I'll blame DOpus[8] 

will save that tip though
cause I'm having some real keyboard problems with another keyboard/computer 

[Curt]

Try ALT+77

-AbteriX (September 19, 2007, 12:29 PM)

- this will twice bring me to my homepage (two new tabs).

 

[AbteriX]

Try ALT+77

-AbteriX (September 19, 2007, 12:29 PM)

- this will twice bring me to my homepage (two new tabs).

 

-Curt (September 19, 2007, 12:49 PM)

Yes you discovered an hidden short cut ?

ALT+NumPad7 goes to start page (in iE too)

ALT+NumPad7 NumPad7 does this twice times.

Bug or feature?

If you try Alt+77 in text editor you will see whats happens. That's ASCII code.  ...  ( A Brief History of Character Codes )

[Curt]

try Alt+77 in text editor

-AbteriX (September 19, 2007, 01:08 PM)

- even so in Flashnote!

Thanks for telling 

[Perry Mowbray]

I just downloaded it today & have 2.2something - 2.3 must be Beta will go check

-tomos (September 19, 2007, 11:14 AM)

It would be good to hear what you think.

I only found binaries for 2.2.17 (from memory), the source is released for versions up to 2.4 but I have not seen any binaries above 2.2

[tomos]

I just downloaded it today & have 2.2something - 2.3 must be Beta will go check

-tomos (September 19, 2007, 11:14 AM)

It would be good to hear what you think.

I only found binaries for 2.2.17 (from memory), the source is released for versions up to 2.4 but I have not seen any binaries above 2.2

-Perry Mowbray (September 19, 2007, 10:24 PM)

yeah, its 2.2.17.

I probably wont be really testing it that much -
I crop rotate scale etc a bit for work. for me I do a bit of messing around with photos -
but again in Photoshop I generally only do selective sharpening & a bit on contrast
(my camera's colour is good so generally I dont have to mess around with that)

BTW. you wont find me messing around with source   

[wanghong]

Photofiltre happens to have less features but is free for non-commercial use .

Personally, I use Paint.net. If you're used to GIMP then it might not be as big of an issue for you, but I found it extremely crowded and user-unfriendly.

Paint.net has all the features that I personally use, and has a very nice layout.

I'm using a XP-Pen Star G430 OSU Drawing Tablet  for my drawings in Paint.NET, and it works pretty well but does not support pressure sensitivity..