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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2020, 06:55 PM »
If needed, I could program a Screen-Off-Overrider.
In past I already successful did the counterpart for my own Movie-Player, Screen/Drives/Everything (3 different options from windows) stay endless On however energy is configured.
It would react on mouse/keyboard input and how long to wait after last mouse/key-event...

Problem would be, if another program do the same backwards....  :huh:
With external software or addons monitor off the best result I have obtained is applying a simple black screen...
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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2020, 08:33 PM »
I also don't understand why we can't do the proofs in safe mode.
Even in safe mode the display off fails...

You can, try it.

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2020, 11:33 AM »
It's a mistery. A few minutes ago the display decay and after a seconds display off.
But not happen again.
Now is pending an update .....
So I will comment in the future after reinitiating...
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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2020, 04:23 PM »
Auggghhhhhhh Auggghhhhhhh

We will desist I suppose until the next windows update !

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2020, 04:24 PM »
I also don't understand why we can't do the proofs in safe mode.
Even in safe mode the display off fails...

You can, try it.
Let me try this. It's a simple curiosity
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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #30 on: October 24, 2020, 05:12 PM »
Tried.

The display don't display off after the minute of inactivity.
Eventually in safe mode I close :
Application Frame Host
WMI Provide Host
COM Surrogate
Broken runtime or something like that

The display don't go off after the minute...

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #31 on: October 24, 2020, 07:28 PM »
Tried.

The display don't display off after the minute of inactivity.

Which still points to a problem within Windows itself so your only probable solutions, (that won't require installing Windows from scratch or otherwise trying to locate the fault), is Kodezwerg's software, (or similar), or an In-place Upgrade.

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #32 on: October 24, 2020, 08:55 PM »
Application Frame Host, WMI Provider host, COM surrogate....all functionality that Windows relies upon to run in the background to give you the Windows experience you expect. And all have little to nothing to do with your screen not turning off.

WMI stands for Windows Management Instrumentation. A big name for functionality that keeps track of how and when the available resources from your computer are being used. Pretty handy also when you need to keep track of resource usage from many computers in 1 central location. Application Frame host is used for standardizing how and when available resources are spent on applications running on your computer. COM is used to enable information exchange between applications and services that may or may not have information exchange functionality built into them. All without user interaction. MS Office automation used COM a lot. Now less and less, because of REST/JSON.

Yes, perhaps you could make the point that indirectly these functionalities can have an impact on your screen not turning off, but it is highly unlikely that any of these functionalities are the cause of your problem.

4wd is right (as per usual), sounds more and more like there is a problem within your Windows installation.

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2020, 04:04 AM »
Tried.

The display don't display off after the minute of inactivity.

Which still points to a problem within Windows itself so your only probable solutions, (that won't require installing Windows from scratch or otherwise trying to locate the fault), is Kodezwerg's software, (or similar), or an In-place Upgrade.
At the present moment I am applying :

Turn to the minimum brilliance with the key in the laptop associated to F2
apply an addon : "C:\Program Files (x86)\Turn Off Monitor\Add Ons\BlankScreen.exe"
This put in black the screen except the cursor. Seems stable. The problem with other display off utilities is that they are reactivated...
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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2020, 04:05 AM »
Application Frame Host, WMI Provider host, COM surrogate....all functionality that Windows relies upon to run in the background to give you the Windows experience you expect. And all have little to nothing to do with your screen not turning off.

WMI stands for Windows Management Instrumentation. A big name for functionality that keeps track of how and when the available resources from your computer are being used. Pretty handy also when you need to keep track of resource usage from many computers in 1 central location. Application Frame host is used for standardizing how and when available resources are spent on applications running on your computer. COM is used to enable information exchange between applications and services that may or may not have information exchange functionality built into them. All without user interaction. MS Office automation used COM a lot. Now less and less, because of REST/JSON.

Yes, perhaps you could make the point that indirectly these functionalities can have an impact on your screen not turning off, but it is highly unlikely that any of these functionalities are the cause of your problem.

4wd is right (as per usual), sounds more and more like there is a problem within your Windows installation.
thanks Shades.

Perhaps the only answer by now is wait to improve windows .

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2020, 04:07 AM »
If needed, I could program a Screen-Off-Overrider.
In past I already successful did the counterpart for my own Movie-Player, Screen/Drives/Everything (3 different options from windows) stay endless On however energy is configured.
It would react on mouse/keyboard input and how long to wait after last mouse/key-event...

Problem would be, if another program do the same backwards....  :huh:
Be careful if you try because for some reason after the screen or display is off after a while begin again on...
 :tellme:

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2020, 06:23 AM »
The problem with other display off utilities is that they are reactivated...

If you're saying that the display turns on after getting it to turn off then one more thing to try that may, (or may not), show something:

  • Safe boot,
  • Run nircmd: nircmd.exe monitor off
  • When the display turns on again, (assuming you haven't used the keyboard or knocked the mouse), try powercfg -requests again, see if it shows a reason it turned on.

BTW, what happens if you set the Screen Saver to Blank after a minute?
Does it work?

4wd is right (as per usual), ...

Thanks but I think my wife would like to have words with you :P ;D
« Last Edit: October 25, 2020, 06:31 AM by 4wd »

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2020, 07:28 AM »
The problem with other display off utilities is that they are reactivated...

If you're saying that the display turns on after getting it to turn off then one more thing to try that may, (or may not), show something:

  • Safe boot,
  • Run nircmd: nircmd.exe monitor off
  • When the display turns on again, (assuming you haven't used the keyboard or knocked the mouse), try powercfg -requests again, see if it shows a reason it turned on.

BTW, what happens if you set the Screen Saver to Blank after a minute?
Does it work?

4wd is right (as per usual), ...

Thanks but I think my wife would like to have words with you :P ;D
Running to try in safe mode. I download both version x86 and 64 for nirmd

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2020, 09:46 AM »
TIRO LA TOALLA

when apply nirsoft from the console
nircmd monitor off produce the display off of the monitor for a second. Then return
powercfg -requests produce none in all results....

By the way. It seems to me that the very first time when apply nircmd monitor off goes well. Next No. After reiniating again in safe mode : NO

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2020, 04:37 PM »
I am very proud to announce that the problem have been solved by the forum :

https://www.donation...?topic=50673.new#new

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It was my external mouse Trust


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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2020, 05:08 PM »
It was my external mouse

Time to apply S.O.P. #1.

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2020, 03:06 PM »
It was my external mouse

Time to apply S.O.P. #1.
I know you are right as ever. But what do you mean with S.O.P. #1 ?
Is this ?
https://www.process....perating-procedures/
https://www.getmaint...p-includes-template/

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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2020, 03:50 PM »
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Re: Manage the display in the laptop
« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2020, 10:18 AM »
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