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Author Topic: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows  (Read 18274 times)

helmar

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NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« on: December 29, 2016, 01:47 PM »
"Generate account passwords based on a nickname and a master password."

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"Oplop makes it easy to create unique passwords for every account you have.  By using some math, Oplop only requires of you to remember a nickname and a master password to create a very safe and secure password just for you.  You get to choose the nicknames you use for each of your accounts so they act as a mnemonic, letting you make sure they are memorable.  And your master password you only have to choose once as you use it for every nickname you have (hence the "master" part).  That means you can have safe and secure passwords for all of your accounts simply by remembering one master password and easy-to-remember nicknames for each of your accounts you use Oplop with."

Oplop has been coded in many implementations, but I never found one for Windows desktop.  So, after many years of just wondering, and after skwire and Ath put together the brains part of this for me, and mouser thought it would be a good idea to try, I finally did try to put a Windows GUI together.  I used AutoIT for this program, source code has been added.  There is a unused function that I am noodling with to test the complexity of the resultant value.

I have never 'shown' my programs to anyone but myself.  I claim no copyright to the code (or even any ego), both as skwire and Ath did the hard part, and the concept of the project has been in use since 2004 (https://github.com/brettcannon/oplop).

Any and all comments are welcome.

Hope everyone has a Happy New Year!

* Oplop4Win.txt (8.15 kB - downloaded 1138 times.)
« Last Edit: February 09, 2017, 12:50 PM by mouser »

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2016, 01:56 PM »
I cannot tell if the EXE uploaded or not (perhaps there is a delay to scan the application).  Please let me know if that is the case, or if I somehow did not upload correctly.  Thanks.

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2016, 01:58 PM »
There are no attachments on your post.

Could you please also attach some screenshots and such so people can get a better idea of how things work?

Thanks!

~Stephen

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2016, 02:06 PM »
I got the screen shot to show.  I cannot seem to get the EXE to show / upload??

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2016, 02:07 PM »
I fixed it.

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2016, 02:08 PM »
I got the screen shot to show.  I cannot seem to get the EXE to show / upload??

Both are visible in your post now :) Thanks!

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2016, 02:09 PM »
mouser - thanks.  Did I break it while you were fixing it?

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2016, 02:16 PM »
Yes, now I fixed it again :)
If you edit your post you'll see the fix.

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2016, 03:06 PM »
Oh, nice :up:
But, as with (m)any security-related tools: is the source available?

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2016, 07:28 PM »
Oh, nice :up:
But, as with (m)any security-related tools: is the source available?
I just added a text file of the AutoIT code.

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2017, 10:04 AM »
Avast is flagging the exe as malware.  Won't allow download unless disabled.
submitted to Virus total.com  - bad report - all major virus scans report malware 27 out of 57.
Normally I would have thought it to be a false positive but that many?  I would suggest that you re-examine the binary.




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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2017, 10:26 AM »
Thank you for looking at the program - I do appreciate that.

Avast is flagging the exe as malware.  Won't allow download unless disabled.
submitted to Virus total.com  - bad report - all major virus scans report malware 27 out of 57.
Normally I would have thought it to be a false positive but that many?  I would suggest that you re-examine the binary.

This is a false positive due to it being coded in AutoIT and since the actual EXE (Oplop4Win.exe) was falsely flagged by Bit9 (my company runs Bit9 and, after detecting it newly installed on my PC, submitted the EXE for review, Bit9 falsely flagged the AutoIT-ness of it, and then gave the name / checksum of the file a bad rating).  I myself have had to resort to running the script via AutoIT.

I would welcome any help to educate these vendors that this is not malware - don't know how to do that.

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2017, 12:40 PM »
For what it's worth, Windows Defender gives it a pass.

But indeed, quite a few (5/18) flags on Jotti as well: https://virusscan.jo...lescanjob/7dg9smisfe

If in doubt, download the source from the original post and compile it yourself in AutoIT after verifying its safety.

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2017, 12:44 PM »
I'd be inclined to suggest the EXE is removed from the download list until it can be sorted (but of course keeping the code available).

Don't take that as me accusing the file/OP as being of malicious intent, rather take it as me being worried about the potential for damage caused by Google picking up on those flags, and then flagging DC as a host of malicious software (and then the implications that having a website flagged as such would come with).

Just my and feel free to ignore me xD

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2017, 12:50 PM »
Yeah I think we have to remove the EXE with so many flags even if they are false positives, just because the site will start to get marked as dangerous.  But the source code download is what people probably want anyway.

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2017, 01:04 PM »
Yeah I think we have to remove the EXE with so many flags even if they are false positives, just because the site will start to get marked as dangerous.  But the source code download is what people probably want anyway.

mouser et al, I totally understand and agree, remove the exe.  I do not want any code of mine to cause the site's reputation to take a hit.  I respect and support this site and its goals / coders.  The source code, as a text file, is there for any to review / compile in AutoIT.

If anyone does review it, either just as the text file, or in AutoIT, any thoughts and comments are welcome.

My apologies if I have caused any hit on the site's rep scoring.

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Re: NANY 2017: Oplop for Windows
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2017, 02:43 PM »
No need to apologize -- these antivirus false positives are absolutely infuriating and unfair.

In this case the solution is simple and easy, especially since for security software having the source is always preferable.