curt, thanks, checking truelaunchbar now.
cmpm, that's what i've got right now, though positioned at the bottom (prefer my running programs as high as possible on the bar), what but with the quicklaunch i still have a couple of duplicates.
for example, if i have firefox running, i still have the firefox button in the quicklaunch, wasting space. with one app that's not much of a problem, but if you're running a slew of apps at a time, that's quite a waste.