Author Topic: NANY 2009 Release: Trout (audio player) (Read 747066 times)

skwire · « **Reply #775 on:** November 01, 2011, 06:01 PM »

any idea???
-IQLover (November 01, 2011, 05:40 PM)

Try this build, please:

Website | Installer | Portable v1.0.6 build 41 - 2011-11-01 ! Album art from tags didn't always update properly. (Thanks, IQLover)

IQLover · « **Reply #776 on:** November 01, 2011, 06:11 PM »

any idea???
-IQLover (November 01, 2011, 05:40 PM)

Try this build, please:

Website | Installer | Portable v1.0.6 build 41 - 2011-11-01 ! Album art from tags didn't always update properly. (Thanks, IQLover)
-skwire (November 01, 2011, 06:01 PM)

Yep

this is it

Works perfectly; Thank you.

2 more questions: Is it possible to rip CDs with Trout? Can you recommend any good SW to make FLAC-files from my CDs?

Thanx

skwire · « **Reply #777 on:** November 01, 2011, 06:18 PM »

Yep this is it Works perfectly; Thank you.
-IQLover (November 01, 2011, 06:11 PM)

You're welcome. Thanks for testing.

2 more questions: Is it possible to rip CDs with Trout?
-IQLover (November 01, 2011, 06:11 PM)

No, it's not. I recommend and use Exact Audio Copy (commonly called EAC).

Can you recommend any good SW to make FLAC-files from my CDs?
-IQLover (November 01, 2011, 06:11 PM)

You can configure EAC to encode to FLAC. Otherwise, rip to WAV and then use any of the myriad of audio converters out there to encode your WAV files to FLAC.

dave1 · « **Reply #778 on:** November 04, 2011, 05:11 PM »

Control c willl not copy text while trout is running. Control x works as does a right click and selecting copy. I'm guessing this has something to do with the Add URL function. It may or may not matter that i'm running Windows 98se. I am using v1.0.6 build 41 - 2011-11-01.

Drugwash · « **Reply #779 on:** November 04, 2011, 06:30 PM »

I can confirm CTRL+C not working in 98SE while Trout is running (regardless of whether it's playing or stopped).
For what it's worth, here's my configuration file:

[Select]

[Columns]
View_Col_#=1
View_Col_Artist=1
View_Col_Album=1
View_Col_Title=1
View_Col_Year=1
View_Col_Genre=1
View_Col_Time=1
View_Col_Bitrate=1
View_Col_Size=0
View_Col_Ext=0
View_Col_Path=0
View_Col_Filename=1
Width_Col_#=39
Width_Col_Artist=193
Width_Col_Album=147
Width_Col_Title=222
Width_Col_Year=38
Width_Col_Genre=89
Width_Col_Time=54
Width_Col_Bitrate=38
Width_Col_Size=0
Width_Col_Ext=0
Width_Col_Path=0
Width_Col_Filename=380
Column_Order=1,2,3,4,6,9,10,5,7,8,11,12,13,14,15,16,17
View_Col_Composer=1
View_Col_Comment=1
View_Col_Sample=1
Width_Col_Composer=0
Width_Col_Comment=0
Width_Col_Sample=0

[Settings]
Play_Mode=1
Always_Show_In_Tray=1
Minimize_To_Tray=1
Minimize_To_Tray_On_Close=0
Seekbar_Themed=1
Volume_Themed=1
LastFM_Username=
LastFM_Password=
LastFM_Enable=0
Tags_Missing_String=-
Minimize_On_Start=0
Toaster_Popup=1
Prev_Selected_Folder=<irrelevant>
Show_MiniBar_V_Mode=0
Show_MiniBar_H_Mode=1
Vol_Level=4
Remember_Playback_Data=0|246|0
MiniBar_AOT=1
Allow_Internet=0
GTalk_Support=0
Invert_Volume=0
Remember_Playback_Pos=0
Auto_Justify_Columns=0
Title_Text_Font=Arial Unicode MS
Title_Text_Color=0x800080
Title_Text_Style=bold s9
Title_Text_BG_Color=0xffffff
Listview_Font=Arial Unicode MS
Listview_Style=s8
Listview_Color=0x800080
Listview_BG_Color=0xfff2ff
File_Manager=
Seek_Interval=1
Playlist_Clear=1
Tags_Preserve_Mod_Times=0
Track_Between_Tracks_Type=1
Track_Between_Tracks_File=
Enable_Media_Keys=0
LastFM_Love_Track=0
Tray_Click_Num=1
Rewind_On_Resume=0
Pause_On_Idle=0
Track_Between_Tracks_TTS=Now playing track $index_c of $index_t
Prev_Selected_File=<irrelevant>
Last_Played_Row=37
LibreFM_Enable=0
LibreFM_Username=
LibreFM_Password=
Path_Music=
Path_Playlists=
Balloon_Tip_Timeout=4
Playlist_Clear_2=
Remember_Playlist_Pos=0
Remove_Dead_Entries=0
Album_Art_Disable=0
Level_Meter_Disable=0

[Hotkeys]
Hotkeys=+Up?Volume_up?Volume up?Shift-Up?Local|+Down?Volume_down?Volume down?Shift-Down?Local

[Formatting]
Seekbar=$artistÂ§Â©-Â§Â©$title
Titlebar=$artist - $title
Tray_Icon=$artist - $title
Clipboard=$artist - $title, $album ($year), $time_t, $bitrate kB/s
Balloon=$artist - $title
Seekbar_Format_Style=1
Style=1

[Toaster]
L1_Format=$artist
L2_Format=$title
L3_Format=$year, $album
L4_Format=$time_t ($ext $bitrate kB/s), $genre
Stay_Time=7000
In_Speed=8
Out_Speed=8
In_Effect=Slide up
Out_Effect=Collapse to center
Border=Simple
BG_Color=0xffd2ff
L3_Color=0x0080c0
L3_Style=s1
L3_Font=MS Sans Serif
L1_Color=0x800080
L1_Style=s8
L1_Font=MS Sans Serif
No_Active_Show=0
Show_On_Resume=1
On_Click=1

[Position]
MiniBar_H_X=513
MiniBar_H_Y=20
pos_x=7
pos_y=15
pos_w=1257
pos_h=999

One other oddity - unless I'm missing the obvious - is that upon a clean install of Trout, the VU-meter will display solid bars following the audio level; using the above configuration file, the bars are segmented as if the theme were enabled under XP (but we're still talking about Win98SE). One thing I know for sure is that the current version of the Uberskin engine installed by Revolutions Pack does not skin the vertical progressbars, so they should display as MS originally intended them to.

skwire · « **Reply #780 on:** November 04, 2011, 06:36 PM »

Did this just start recently?

Drugwash · « **Reply #781 on:** November 04, 2011, 06:47 PM »

Unfortunately, I've only tested the CTRL+C issue after reading the post above mine from dave1, so can't offer a useful answer (I'm more of a mouse user).

As for the VU-meter, the last version I've had running before upgrading to 1.0.6 was one of the 1.0.5 series without VU-meter, so there's no comparison. First 1.0.6 version I ran was build 24 which exhibited the segmentation straight away (since the config file was already present).

Hopefully dave1 could offer some really useful information.

dave1 · « **Reply #782 on:** November 04, 2011, 07:46 PM »

Did this just start recently?
-skwire (November 04, 2011, 06:36 PM)

I have only used trout since this most recent release of 11-01-11. I noticed this only today.

dave1 · « **Reply #783 on:** November 04, 2011, 07:58 PM »

Did this just start recently?
-skwire (November 04, 2011, 06:36 PM)

i installed the portable version from the zip file. Just now I installed a second copy from zip and tested and the same problem occurs. All I have are guesses. Perhaps the Add URL function or the hotkeys option might be the source of the problem.

skwire · « **Reply #784 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:04 PM »

One other oddity - unless I'm missing the obvious - is that upon a clean install of Trout, the VU-meter will display solid bars following the audio level; using the above configuration file, the bars are segmented as if the theme were enabled under XP (but we're still talking about Win98SE).
-Drugwash (November 04, 2011, 06:30 PM)

Set "Seekbar_Themed=1" to "Seekbar_Themed=0" in your config.ini (or remove the setting entirely). Did you copy this config.ini from an XP/7 box?

Perhaps the Add URL function or the hotkeys option might be the source of the problem.
-dave1 (November 04, 2011, 07:58 PM)

I'm at a loss as to why it's doing as it doesn't exhibit the issue under XP and Win7. Trout sets very few hotkeys by default and none of them are Ctrl+C.

dave1 · « **Reply #785 on:** November 04, 2011, 09:52 PM »

I'm at a loss as to why it's doing as it doesn't exhibit the issue under XP and Win7. Trout sets very few hotkeys by default and none of them are Ctrl+C.
-skwire (November 04, 2011, 09:04 PM)

Wanted to thank you for the nice app and certainly considering that there is no problem on more modern OS's I would not feel put off in any way if you decide not to pursue the problem.

One other possible clue though is the global and the local option in under hotkeys. They do not work as I would expect. For instance, choosing volume up for local with numpadadd as the key functions for volume only when trout is in focus; expected behavior. However, focusing notepad and pressing numpadadd results in nothing being typed.

I can understand this may be very difficult to solve. So please don't spend too much time on this.

skwire · « **Reply #786 on:** November 04, 2011, 10:18 PM »

I tracked that bastige down. It was hardset in one of the third-party libraries that Trout uses. Sheesh. $:-\$ The interesting thing is why it didn't affect Win2000 and above in the same manner.

Now, as to the other hotkey issue, that is something I can look into. As you can imagine, Win98 testing for Trout has been extremely minimal on my part but Drugwash has kept me honest over the years.

Anyway, try this latest build and see if it solves the Ctrl+C problem. You're immortalised in the changelog forever now.

Website | Installer | Portable v1.0.6 build 47 - 2011-11-04 ! Under Win98, the Ctrl+C hotkey was being erroneously set. (Thanks, dave1)

dave1 · « **Reply #787 on:** November 04, 2011, 10:37 PM »

Now, as to the other hotkey issue, that is something I can look into. As you can imagine, Win98 testing for Trout has been extremely minimal on my part but Drugwash has kept me honest over the years. Anyway, try this latest build and see if it solves the Ctrl+C problem. You're immortalised in the changelog forever now.
-skwire (November 04, 2011, 10:18 PM)

Whew!! That was quick. Works fine. TYVM. I'll keep an eye out for the other issue and thanks again.

skwire · « **Reply #788 on:** November 04, 2011, 10:40 PM »

Whew!! That was quick. Works fine. TYVM. I'll keep an eye out for the other issue and thanks again.
-dave1 (November 04, 2011, 10:37 PM)

Thanks for the report. In the meantime, just treat all Trout hotkeys under Win98 as global. I may end up disabling the "Local" feature for Win98. It just depends on how big of a PITA this will be to fix.

Drugwash · « **Reply #789 on:** November 05, 2011, 06:45 AM »

Did you copy this config.ini from an XP/7 box?
-skwire (November 04, 2011, 09:04 PM)

Come to think about it, I may have moved the entire folder around, between machines with different operating systems, for testing purposes, some time ago. Used to be serious about testing but in the mean time, life happened. *sigh*

Nevertheless, a bug could turn into a feature - if this "theme" option would be available under both 9x and NT+, one could safely copy config files between setups and still have a place to tweak things down to personal preferences and OS capabilities.

Still, there must be some nasty code in there, because the seekbar's properties should normally not interfere with VU-meter's; it was probably a shortcut to avoid adding VU-meter specific settings in the Options dialog. But you won't get away with it that easy, while I'm around.

Seriously now, I'm very grateful to you for having been so kind as to keep up with 9x when everybody else even forgot this OS family ever existed. And - as you can see and already knew - there are others who have a place for you in their own "Kind and dedicated people" hall of fame.

Thank you very much!

P.S. Forgot to mention: please check the portable folder where you pack the archive; there's another archive inside the main one, with an executable dated October 30. I guess it started to happen around build 40. No biggie, just that it doubles the size of the archive, which may unnecessarily impact on your bandwidth.

XtremeSurf · « **Reply #790 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:20 PM »

EXCELENT!!!.. I really like Trout player... its very simple, light, and I can use NUMPAD buttons for navigating... etc etc.. 10/10

skwire · « **Reply #791 on:** November 10, 2011, 11:22 PM »

EXCELENT!!!.. I really like Trout player... its very simple, light, and I can use NUMPAD buttons for navigating... etc etc.. 10/10
-XtremeSurf (November 10, 2011, 11:20 PM)

Thanks for the kind words and welcome to the site.

PinoyBoy · « **Reply #792 on:** November 27, 2011, 05:06 AM »

I joined the website just to thank you for this audio player.

mouser · « **Reply #793 on:** November 27, 2011, 08:11 AM »

Welcome PinoyBoy

I just want to say I get a huge kick out of seeing new members make their first post saying that they like a program that came from the site.

And no one is responsible for more such posts that Skwire. I don't know why but his apps just make people feel happy and feel like posting a thank you. It's nice to see.

skwire · « **Reply #794 on:** November 27, 2011, 08:33 AM »

I joined the website just to thank you for this audio player.
-PinoyBoy (November 27, 2011, 05:06 AM)

Thanks, PinoyBoy, and welcome to the site.

EPPM · « **Reply #795 on:** November 28, 2011, 08:45 PM »

THANKS! This is the first player in Windows that is really comfortable in a long time!!

And just a small note: With the latest build there are some missing covers yet (Yes I've checked and I can see them with another players).

Thanks in advance!

skwire · « **Reply #796 on:** November 28, 2011, 08:55 PM »

THANKS! This is the first player in Windows that is really comfortable in a long time!!
-EPPM (November 28, 2011, 08:45 PM)

Thanks for the kind words and welcome to the site, EPPM.

And just a small note: With the latest build there are some missing covers yet (Yes I've checked and I can see them with another players).
-EPPM (November 28, 2011, 08:45 PM)

Could you make one of these files available to me so I can test with it?

EPPM · « **Reply #797 on:** November 28, 2011, 11:21 PM »

Sent you a PM with the link

skwire · « **Reply #798 on:** November 28, 2011, 11:33 PM »

Sent you a PM with the link
-EPPM (November 28, 2011, 11:21 PM)

Thanks. I'll take a look and let you know what I find.

skwire · « **Reply #799 on:** December 31, 2011, 09:26 PM »

Website | Installer | Portable v1.0.6 build 61 - 2011-12-31 + Added "Channels" column. (Thanks, Steve) + Added file modification date column (ModDate). (Thanks, Derek G.) ! Sample rate wasn't always retrieved properly.