Oh and by the way, i am a bit of a fanatic now lol. I was a fan of Kaspersky, but it started doing on odd things on my system, I was frequently, every time i'd log in, getting error reports which made no sense to me, so I looked around, and ESET, well it had a tick from mouser, at the time anyway, it uses nod, which seems to be a favourably reviewed and well thought of AV and I've set it and more or less forget it. It updates maybe 2 or 3 times a day, depending on when they release one, i have it set to check every hour and on startup, but not more than once an hour. So I am a happy eset person