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1851
Wow. That sounds pretty serious. :o

I just checked and it seems it's already been patched on my machine. :Thmbsup:

For those interested, here is the original Project Zero report:

https://bugs.chromiu...ssues/detail?id=1252
1852
Thanks for your thoughtful response.

You are right that Lemon is not email in the sense that it's not (strictly) SMTP/IMAP/POP3. But the fact that it can speak SMTP and otherwise has the same appearance on the front-end as email means that people who don't really care how something works so long as it does work (i.e., most people) will likely still consider it email. Besides that, I disagree with the idea that "email" means POP3/SMTP/IMAP. Those are just the standard protocols used to deliver "electronic mail," but, in my opinion, there's no reason why new protocols can't be developed and used to deliver email. It doesn't matter how your (snail) mail gets delivered--whether by foot, automobile, boat, airplane, or drone--mail delivered to your mailbox is still mail (or most likely junk mail :P).

While OpenPGP is available now for the current email paradigm, it's complicated and confusing to set up. It is also basically useless unless everyone else you contact also uses it, which since it is optional, virtually nobody does. So I think in that regard it's not much better than Lemon in practical terms.

You make other valid points, such as the service being overpriced, and too vague with (or too hard to find) the details about their standard email transport backend. I certainly don't disagree with you there.

I think it would more clearly indicate my position if I said that I like the idea behind Lemon and what they claim to be going for: A decentralized, distributed email service that can't ever go down, can't be spied on by third parties, and the front-end of which can be run from virtually anywhere. I'm not necessarily in love with Lemon's implementation of the idea, but the fact that they're trying means (in my opinion) that someday, someone will succeed with something along those lines. And it is ideas like this one that give me some excitement about the future of the internet.
1853
From what I can see, Lemon is "a blockchain" which can also speak IMAP/SMTP over servers when required. Sorry, but there is no way to send a valid e-mail without a valid e-mail server. The website is incredibly shady about that. I can understand why.

Security by obscurity, huh? Come on, trust them!  :Thmbsup:

Finally we're getting somewhere.

I appreciate your perspective because you are technically knowledgeable, make really good points based on your knowledge and experience, and have insights that I lack. I just wish you'd make your good points in the first place instead of abrasively trolling multiple times before the real information finally gets teased out of you.

My understanding of Lemon is that it is a new paradigm on email. It provides similar functionality in a similar format, but with some differences in the underlying technology. It stores the encrypted content of the messages in IPFS format, which allows it to be duplicated and decentralized on the IPFS network. It uses a blockchain (Ethereum) to store metadata (e.g., the IPFS hash) about the messages. And it provides an account system which messages are tied to and sent to/from. I imagine that Lemon to Lemon messages don't use SMTP/IMAP/POP3 at all. But because they offer (what I'll refer to as) "backward compatibility" with traditional email software/servers, they also provide as part of their service something that interfaces with SMTP so that you can send to and receive from other SMTP accounts. But that is optional if you and the people you want to communicate with are using Lemon and don't need to communicate with others outside of the Lemon ecosystem.

That is to say, they provide two different services:

1. A traditional web-based & mobile client service similar to Gmail and other mail services, or optionally your own email client using SMTP/IMAP. This does indeed have a server for account management and SMTP stuff.
2. A fully decentralized app (DApp) with no central server, and seemingly no server at all. This is still in testing and being developed. In theory, even if Lemon goes out of business, this version of the service could live on in perpetuity. But I'm not sure how or if it could communicate with traditional email addresses at that stage.

Indeed, as you said, the main Lemon website seems scarce with the details, but there's a lot more information about the DApp version of Lemon here as well as in the open source Github repository.

Yes, Lemon is still new to me, and I'm still looking into the details of how it works, so my explanation(s) above may not be entirely accurate. Given that the source is open, and you're free to deploy it yourself, I think your quip about "security through obscurity" is baseless. There's no need to trust them if you don't want to. You can verify for yourself what the software is doing by perusing the code. In fact, I encourage you to do that. It isn't my intention to mislead anyone about what this is or how it works. But you don't have take my word for what it is or how it works. Look into it yourself, if you feel so inclined, and (politely) point out where I'm wrong.
1854
So your quote was wrong in the first place.

This quote (with plenty of context around the "scraping your email content" that this discussion is in response to)?

I think this is a pretty clever new email service.

First of all, Lemon features end-to-end encryption so that no one--not even Lemon engineers--can read the content of your emails, except of course you and the intended recipient. No scraping the content of your emails to better advertise to you or gather personal/private information. In fact, there are no ads in your email period. "The way it works is that the passphrase you use to unlock your emails is not saved anywhere / on our server and therefore even our engineers cannot read your emails. (Don't forget your passphrase!)"

What part of that mentions SMTP/IMAP? Other than saying the password isn't saved on their servers, no part of that description of Lemon refers to "servers" at all. I was clearly talking about a "new email service."
1855
You don't know about Gmail?

Gmail is not a mail server software.

Neither is Lemon. It's an email service provider, which is what I was talking about when I mentioned email content being scraped.
1856
No scraping the content of your emails to better advertise to you or gather personal/private information.

Nor does any mail server software I know.

You don't know about Gmail?


so I could prove that even though I may be crazy, I didn't hallucinate that it did say cappuccino!
I've read that too, so I can be your witness ;)

Thanks!

Still, even with it saying pizza, that's an expensive pizza when you can get the "cheap and fast" pizzas for $5. Or bigger ones with more toppings for $10-15. If they said "all for the price of a movie ticket with maybe a small drink and/or popcorn" then the $20 would make more sense. :P
1857
Living Room / Re: Share your photos! Travel shots, photoblogs, etc.
« Last post by Deozaan on May 07, 2017, 03:59 PM »
Holy cow that first photo is amazing.
:D
+1
I had to look it up (it's in Jordan)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petra
https://upload.wikim...b/Koenigsgraeber.jpg

Isn't that the place famously shown to house the Holy Grail in the third (and final, as far as I'm concerned!) Indiana Jones film?

Either way, I just noticed in the above photo that it seems they carved their own "ladders" into the stone to access the upper parts of it. :Thmbsup:
1858
When I visit their site it says "price of one pizza a month."  :tellme:

Looks like they've updated their website. Now I wish I had taken a screenshot so I could prove that even though I may be crazy, I didn't hallucinate that it did say cappuccino!

If I correct their website English, well I found only 2 errors on the home page, will I get a discount?

:P Seems they're founded in Belgrade, so English isn't their first language.
1859
Living Room / Re: SIGGRAPH 2017 Preview Trailer
« Last post by Deozaan on May 06, 2017, 12:48 AM »
Looks cool. I'd already seen a longer-form video of the, uh, pirate(?), walking around terrain. As shown from 2:36 to 2:42 in the above video.

1860
I think this is a pretty clever new email service.

First of all, Lemon features end-to-end encryption so that no one--not even Lemon engineers--can read the content of your emails, except of course you and the intended recipient. No scraping the content of your emails to better advertise to you or gather personal/private information. In fact, there are no ads in your email period. "The way it works is that the passphrase you use to unlock your emails is not saved anywhere / on our server and therefore even our engineers cannot read your emails. (Don't forget your passphrase!)"

Secondly, Lemon is powered via IPFS[1] and Ethereum's blockchain technology. This allows Lemon to be decentralized. Meaning there is no central server to be hacked. No single point of failure that can prevent you from being able to access your email. In fact, there is no server at all. "Your emails are safe in pretty much any scenario you can imagine, from natural disaster to alien invasion."

Thirdly, you can still use it to email your mom. Lemon will translate your email from the IPFS version and communicate with the recipient's SMTP server (or vice versa for incoming email from non-Lemon accounts). "When emailing people that are outside of Lemon Email service, we have [an] additional security layer so that third party email services cannot read or decrypt your emails."

The future of the internet, using P2P/distributed technologies such as IPFS and Ethereum, is developing into something really amazing. :Thmbsup:

More info about Lemon:
https://lemon.email/

The one thing that puzzles me is they claim it's all "at the price of one cappuccino a month" but the pricing plans page says it's $20/mo. That sounds like one expensive cappuccino to me!


1. See my post "IPFS - Is this the future of the internet?"
1861
Non-Windows Software / Re: Android 6 tablet Cmd keys?
« Last post by Deozaan on May 05, 2017, 03:18 PM »
Those tablets seem like they come with the keyboard, and are made for them, looking at the marketing, but I could be wrong.  It's billed as a 2-in-one, not a tablet with a case.

Good point. I guess that's what happens when I speak in ignorance. Next time I'll click the link to look at the product before saying anything. :-[
1862
Non-Windows Software / Re: Android 6 tablet Cmd keys?
« Last post by Deozaan on May 05, 2017, 12:48 PM »
I think the model of the tablet isn't as important as the model of the case with included keyboard.

My guess is that it's a generic case meant for a variety of devices, including iPads, so they provide a generic keyboard that can work with a variety of OSes.
1863
Not sure what else to suggest, but maybe a "known good" d3d9.dll will help?

This is from my own PC (64-bit Win 10 Pro 1703, like yours) found in C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d9.dll

[link removed]
1864
Nice little "May the 4th" cameo, too. :Thmbsup:
1865
It's either an about:config setting I changed like 10 years or so ago or tabmixplus, I don't know.

If it's a Firefox extension that gives you this functionality, have you tried searching for a Chrome extension that will do this?
1866
Huh? How does that work?

When I type an address into the address bar and press enter, I go to that address in the current tab. As far as I know, this is standard behavior in all browsers, and has been for 20+ years.

It sounds to me like you have an extension installed which gives this functionality.
1867
Non-Windows Software / Re: Android 6 tablet Cmd keys?
« Last post by Deozaan on May 03, 2017, 03:00 PM »
Isn't Cmd an Apple thing? Maybe the case was intended for iPads?
1868
Living Room / Re: Windows S and Surface Laptop
« Last post by Deozaan on May 03, 2017, 02:57 PM »
Sounds like it's intending to be a Chromebook competitor.

And I'd rather have Windows 10 S on my Surface 2 than the currently stagnant and abandoned Windows RT it currently runs.
1869
NANY 2018 App of the Year! :Thmbsup:
1870
(But I don't do it on Steam anymore after they locked down my account until I promised not to.)

What?  What happened there?

They didn't like me gifting games to people outside of my region.

It's probably not a problem to do here and there, but after I'd done it for a few people a few times, someone spread word about me on some popular foreign gaming forum and I had probably 15-30 people per day asking me to gift games for them every time a big Steam sale came around. It wasn't uncommon for at least a few people to contact me on any given day for the 24-hour daily deal.

He had so many to give that Steam was coming out of his ears?
-cranioscopical (May 02, 2017, 08:45 AM)

Pretty close. :P

It got so big and I had so many people contacting me asking the same basic details (Will you gift to me? How does it work? How do I send you money? When/how will I get my gift?) over and over, that I set up a custom email address with an auto-response with all the details. I even considered creating a website or service to help organize people into getting 4-pack bundles and other things like that.

It felt pretty cool helping all those people get games they wanted at nicely discounted prices, and I didn't think Steam would mind all the extra customers/money I was getting to them. But I hadn't considered that Steam had agreements with publishers regarding regional restrictions on games and I was bypassing those restrictions through my gifting. They locked down my account and told me I shouldn't be bypassing their regional restrictions, then they restored my access after I said I wouldn't do that anymore.

That was about 5 years ago. I've pretty much only gifted to IRL friends on Steam since then, or occasionally gone in with other DC members on 4-packs.



EDIT:
How's this for timely? The day after I wrote that up, Steam has changed their gifting policy to essentially disallow people from being able to do what I was doing:
Safe Cross-Country Gifting
No more worrying if a Gift to E-mail or Gift to Inventory is going to work for a friend, gifts sent through the new system will always work on the receiver's account. When there is a large difference in pricing between countries, gifting won't be available and you'll know before purchase.
1871
Thanks Doazaan for his cooperation. Everything worked out fine. I can vouch for him as an honest and responsible person.

Thanks!

I can vouch for him as an honest and responsible person.

We all could have told you that :)

And thank you, too, mouser. :)

I've gifted games to others here before.

(But I don't do it on Steam anymore after they locked down my account until I promised not to.)
1872
I'll do it. Send me the DonationCredits and I'll PM you a gift link.
1873
DC Gamer Club / Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop
« Last post by Deozaan on April 26, 2017, 03:32 PM »
Alien Swarm just got a big upgrade. It has been re-released as Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop with more campaigns, more multiplayer options (including co-op bots to help fill out your party), Steam Workshop support for community-made campaigns and mods, and more.

Alien Swarm: Reactive Drop extends Alien Swarm, bringing more of everything: maps, aliens, game modes, guns... And most importantly Steam Workshop support.

  • Tactical co-op for up to 8 players with a top-down perspective
  • Steam Workshop support for community maps and challenges
  • New co-operative campaigns
  • Challenges: Modifications of the game, just like Mutations in Left 4 Dead 2
  • PvP: Deathmatch, Gun Game, Instagib, and Team Deathmatch
  • Singleplayer: Play with improved bots on all our official maps
  • New Aliens: HL2 antlion guards and more
  • New Weapons: Desert Eagle, Devastator, and Combat Rifle, with more to come

And it's still completely free!

I had a lot of fun playing Alien Swarm with other DC members, but it always seemed unfairly hard if you couldn't get a full party of 4 players. But now with the addition of bots, it's very doable to complete the original campaign with even just two competent players.

I haven't tried any of the new campaigns yet, but I'm looking forward to doing so. Hopefully with folks from DC again. :Thmbsup:
1874
DC Gamer Club / Re: GOG Connect - DRM-free access to your Steam library
« Last post by Deozaan on April 20, 2017, 04:27 PM »
The Saints Row games are on GOG Connect right now. And Saints Row 2 is free on GOG for those who don't already own it.
1875
DC Gamer Club / StarCraft + Brood War expansion now free
« Last post by Deozaan on April 19, 2017, 01:32 PM »
Blizzard is gearing up to release a remastered edition of the original StarCraft. And in preparation for that big release later this year, they've released the original for free.



StarCraft®: Remastered upgrades the essential sci-fi strategy experience from beginning to end. Welcome back to the original game and its award-winning expansion, StarCraft: Brood War.

We’ve remastered our units, buildings, and environments, improved game audio, and broadened our supported resolutions. Illustrated interludes bring the struggles and victories of heroes like Artanis, Fenix, Tassadar, Raynor and Kerrigan to life like never before. Most importantly, the strategy gameplay that StarCraft perfected years ago remains unchanged.

Get ready for Remastered. The original StarCraft is free to download right now!
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