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I like this DesktopOK program a lot too, used it for a number of years.

Problem is .. just the last week it started to glitch out. Running Windows 10 and Desktop 4.02.

When it places a Save it shows in DesktopOK, but does not seem to really happen. Maybe a quirky permissions problem.


General Software Discussion / Re: Total Commander v9.00 Public Betas
« on: November 30, 2016, 12:35 PM »
Superb program with superb support and the no extra fee policy. 
And I also find it nice looking and easy to use.  skins, shminz

Sometimes I pull out alternatives (DOpus I do not have, XYPlorer or Xplorer2, Free Commander, etc) but I always tend to just say:

"why?  Total Commander is so good.."

Granted, XYPlorer gets a nod for their also having a true lifetime license and an excellent program and a developer here in Dodge.


They actually went down to $12 at one point.  Even though I generally find 2.0 sufficient, the extra pizazz and the Emsi make it a good deal.

However, then it went back up to $20 (50% off).  I sent them a note asking about trying to restore the lower price, or when it may return.

Presumably it is a one-PC license, although that might still allow multi-installs when you work on one at a time.
Why they sometimes show both the one and three options, and other times, not, leads to a bit of a puzzle.

I'm not a big fan of this "rush, get to the store, make a purchase on the specific couple of days thing".
It is like you are being played as a cog in the mercantile wheel.

[email protected]  email has a vacation auto-responder. I was saying the same as above.

I recopied the file over, it looks fine, taking updates.  Minor hassle, made me research and think a bit more. I kept the old file and could check it out sometime to see if it really, really has some glitch that prevents modifications.


Consider that one spot where PNotes shines, the ability to have multiple easy-access desktops of sticky notes.  e.g. One might be shopping, one might be biz, one might be today, etc. each one doing the real estate nicely on the desktop and switchable with a couple of clicks.  They accomplish it with Groups or Tags. The tags are especially flexible because one note can be in multiple tags. It is a nice feature, but not one that I would say that Notezilla needs.

You would accomplish the same basic idea if you could Show/Hide a Memoboard to the Desktop.  I would say that is easily the #1 improvement I would recommend. While you do have the advantage of being able to work within the notes browser itself (lacking in PNote) it never really has the space niceness of working on the full Desktop. Keep in mind that, in addition to sticking to windows, this multi-note kanban style aspect of stickies is one big, big advantage over Evernote et al. The ability to have 3 or 10 or more "virtual note desktops" is really where stickies are always going to gain a lot of fans, on top of window sticking (where you are easily the best, afaik, and that alone is sufficient to buy and use the program, imho.)   If you made a nice video showing how this works, the multi-desktops, the fans will come and follow.

btw, even when using Evernote, I try to have it set up so that two or three notes can be paneled while in use.  However, nothing is really able to be saved.  I would say that the Evernote shortcut feature is one you might want to consider emulating. You both have good searches, but shortcuts right on top of your page are really nice.


Just to clarify. The backup problem is not a problem now, I am getting daily backups, of the same file.  (Although I do think we should have a backup-on-demand alternative, I think that was removed from the recent version, we discussed some elements of this before.)  The couple of days that were missing are not an issue.


The Windows time date of the file is not moving forward. It is just as if the file was acting as read-only.  My changes do not take. The file was brought over by Teamviewer from another computer where it was working fine.  In fact, I don't think any of my changes after that took.

Looking at properties in Total Commander and I see only archive checked, which looks normal, not read-only.  Interestingly, in one case the Date Accessed was updated, but not Modified or Created.  I could try importing the file again from the puter 800 miles away.  I didn't do that partly because I was concerned it would work and we would never find the root of the problem. :) 

I would be happy to send you the file. Or show you in a Teamviewer or Skype viewing type of session. At the moment I am relaxed about it, and happy that it helped me to research more deeply the differences between sticky programs (and especially how much superior is your stick-to-windows feature and the recommendation I made you that would make multi-virtual-Notezilla-desktops easier to accomplish.)  It is a bit of a :) comparing Notezilla with PNote.

I'll send you a note by email in a few minutes.


On the desktop groups, both Notezilla and PNote allow you to right-click the system tray and do a show-hide.

With Notezilla it is the (one) Desktop that is shown and hidden.  Whatever notes are currently marked as Desktop. (They can be anywhere in the folder system.)
With PNote, with an extra click or two, you can show a Group of notes, or Tags  (also Last Modified). PNote has a fine implementation there.

What Notezilla could do is allow a Memoboard to be brought to the Desktop with Show/Hide.  There is not a necessity to add Groups and Tags to have a similar functionality since the folder / memoboard element is comparable to Groups / Tags (PNote also has folders and sub-folders, but since the Control Panel does not show the notes themselves it is less functional.)  Similar with those starred favorites.


Hope everyone had a nice day of giving thanks.

Psalm 100:4 (AV)
Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise:
be thankful unto him, and bless his name.


Since my Notezilla has a glitch, I decided to play with PNote and  In fact, I ended up deciding that the older PNote is friendlier, at least for now. It is a rather robust program. Here are some notes on sticky notes.



1) How well do they stick to a window?

2) How well do they take advantage of the inherent advantage of a schema of, say, 5-columns on the Desktop and easily moving in and out of multiple such desktops?

(One big weakness of Evernote, OneNote, Rightnote, etc often boils down to the real estate waste. One note is one whole page. Evernote does give you some flexibility of having multiple notes open on neighboring parts of the desktop, and it has a nice "shortcuts on top" system.  Presumably Onenote also has some flexibilities here. Nonetheless, it is still far from sticky nice. Note that Evernote has at least two attempts to add a stickies element by utilities.)

Can you easily go in and out of multiple such schema?  What is the organizational method?  Would you be comfortable using it for a full-blown note folder-style note system?

3) Do they have any weaknesses on the basics of RTF, pasting pictures, editing.  (e.g. some sticky programs are bland text only)

4) Do they have extra capabilities that really look like they might be used (sending over a network, sync, etc.)

5) Do they have unique frustrations, such as puzzling groups of icons sans text


That said, I am going to compare Notezilla and PNote.  Feel free to include Stickies or any other.

1) How well do they stick to a window?  This is Notezilla all the way. For one, a single note can stick to multiple windows. (Wildcards work well, too.) Easily. And PNote seems quite frustrating, once you pin a note, to find out how to unpin it, even in the Control Panel where the Pin is shown.  And the moment it is pinned to a window, it is removed from the desktop (Notezilla nicely asks). 

(Sidenote: the Firefox Internote used to go by URL for a browser, rather than a Window name.)

Overall, I have not found anything close to Notezilla on Window (including web pages) pop-up.   Even if I only used it for that purpose, at this time it should be in my arsenal.

2) Columns on a Desktop?
Notezilla works with a Notes Browser. It has a strong multi-folder structure and you can change the notes easily while in the Notes Browser.  Thus if you are trying to do a full-blown note system, as an alternative for Evernote or Rightnote or Onenote, it is possible.  However, I do not give Notezilla a point here, unless you have decided to make it your everything system. Due to a preference for Evernote and an occasional Notezilla stability or usage glitch, I am not going that way currently.

PNote has a Control Panel.  While you can not modify notes easily withinin the Control Panel, it has a very strong Groups and Tag system. You can easily show one or two single Groups on the Desktop.  Thus you can create sets of virtual full-desktop notes. 

So far, it seems like a win for PNote, in terms of setting up multiple Desktop groupings.  You could set up 5 or 10 or more groups, each one filling the desktop in 5+ columns (one or two rows, all flexible, some docking capability although not needed) and show one at a time.  This is how I like to work during the day. I like my ongoing notes be set up, and then as they mature on a topic, they might be moved to Evernote.  Some, like "what to do today" or "short-term travel plans" or "need to contact" will always do well as sticky note centric.

3) Weaknesses .. none apparent, but PNote can be a bit frustrating with things like too many buttons that are small. Or extra clicks to do something. The Notezilla edge here is minor and we can call it a wash.  (I'm more used to Notezilla)

4) Extra capabilities .. both have some. For now, a wash.

5) Unique frustrations?  I mentioned how PNote seemed almost surprisingly unusable for window-sticking with flexibility.  Notezilla has glitched a couple of times (including currently.)



Great suggestion.  I do have the time and the need to learn and the space. The e-biz is running on another server and there is little point in reducing the number since we have a super-duper deal.  Also I have a web programmer personal friend, Carolina Custom Designs, who can help me with modest cost since he is actively working the e-biz (bullion company, WordPress and WooCommerce) end as well.

Sure, later I may move things around a bit, but this is a server I can use for my WordPress and VBulletin and other stuff, often on Bible issues. Right now spread over a couple of other hosts.  And get my skill level up.

OwnCloud, (or Cozy or Seafile, et al) here we come.  (First, I have to get the FTP credentials :) ).


Sometimes Notezilla is puzzling. I put aside the sync some years back, but I know that sync is often problematic and you have to be careful.  It works nicely in Evernote, about the only place I trust synch. .. in the Firefox bookmarks (I also use Roomy Bookmarks so it is a kind of information system) I find I do better with backup and restore when switching to other puters.

A few months ago, there was a glitch in a file, Gautam fixed it, although I was out of commission for a little bit.  Ok, fair enough. Good support, program-data glitch of some sort.

Still, the positive elements have been extremely productive.  Popping up a note to a website is really kewl, although this is not unique to Notezilla. Some of the structural excellence of the Notes Browser are less significant now that I use Evernote a lot more for permanent notes. I like to use Notezilla when I am first working with something, and then transfer it down to Evernote.  If Notezilla does not prove itself stabile, then Stickies, PNotes or another (as long as they pop up to a website, note that there are two methods, one involving window name, one involving url, both are satisfactory, the window name has the advantage of including applications, that is what Notezilla uses) have to be considered.

Today I hit something else. Some glitch in the mental file placement and saving of changes logic.  I can make a change, close Notezilla, and then the change is not there on reopening.  In addition, there has not been a save for a few days. (Notezilla I think simply is supposed to automatically give you one daily save, if you are active in that day.)

I'll write Gautam, but this is important enough that I want it to be hashed out here, unto fix, understanding, completion. 

It looks like the only place the data and backup files are supposed to be is at Advanced-->Preferences-->Advanced.  So how could that not work?


And for an upgrade, from 2.0, of $15 the Emsi thing is included.

Note: the above stuff might also be good for the Sync forum


And yes, I might be missing some obvious explanations and documentations.

Let me try to understand some basics. 
We will discuss Syncovery which is helpful with its Wizard Mode and Advanced Mode settings for creating backup Profiles. 

(Would it be simpler just to set up a free FTP server on one puter and client on the other? Not sure.)

In the Wizard Mode, Syncovery seems to indicate that you have a few methods that could work when dealing with your own remote computers.

Network Path - example given : \\mylaptop\C\Users\pureb\Documents
Browse - File Path (here I presume you have made a WebDav connection for this to apply, if you are working with a remote puter)
Globe --> Internet Protocol Settings --> FTP, SSH, WebDav, AmazonS3, HTTP, also many servers. Note that Amazon S3 and somes others are modest cost for my 15 Gb File if I want to put them in the middle, and if either they take such a large file, or I go into splitting.

(Maybe this WebDav only needs the external IP number and the User-Password? Hmm.. that is pretty loosey-goosey.)

There is also a "Device" that brings up "MTP Device Settings" which seems to be local devices, maybe relates to some media backup.
Note: I remember that Syncovery was pretty smart when I made a WebDav connection to DriveHQ and suggested making their own connection.

So, what specifically do you do? Can Syncovery or CarotDev or something walk me through having the WebDav path connection?  Clearly, that has a big advantage in that your Total Commander or other File Manager is then in play?

If you want to do the FTP with Syncovery, does that mean that you set up a free server and then access it with Syncovery?

Is there a VPN method that creates a Network Path that would be usable by Syncovery?

Maybe a little discussion, or finding a good youtube, can hash out how this is really done without too much complexity.  e.g. When I opened CarotDev, I saw all sorts of blank entry fields, presuming more familiarity than I have.

I realize that I am asking a lot here.  It just seems that there is a gap between the presumed solutions and the place where the not-real-PC-tech people begin.

FYI - I will also mention offhand that Binfer looks comfortable for inexpensive transfer of large files, with a funny email interface and modest cost. I did a couple of small xfers with it, but for clear communication I ended up opening two free accounts, with file limits. It is unclear then if both would need to be paid accounts. Also the software seems to be somewhat dormant the last five years. However, it might do a 15GB direct file transfer quickly for $5 or $10 as part of a 40Gb package. 

A whole nother possibility involves simply using a server I have, as of today, available for WordPress and such. Presumably that would be an easy FTP in triangle mode. Why do I have a server for that? Well, a biz e-commerce operation had three, with lots of redundancy, and very inexpensive. So we cleared two out and I inherited one :) .


It worked perfectly for most of the day.  Then the power was shut off, in order to get the TV up (unrelated issue).   Oops. Aborted. Teamviewer's resume is not working in #11.

So may do it again.

Here is my question.  If I am looking to use Syncovery, or Robocopy or something.  With one 15 Gigabyte file.

Which software is friendliest working with two PCs (Teamviewer connected) to make the connection. Do you do a WebDav thing.  Which one is intuitive?


For now I did the zip thing with 7-Zip .. got it under 15 gigabytes. The count of files looked like it did not take a 100 or so from 20,000, but I did not really check that.

Even though Teamviewer has all sorts of concerns about speed and bandwidth in the free account, so far it has done almost 3 gb, at about a gigabtye an hour. (Just taking the simplest method since Teamviewer was active.)


Thanks, great info.  Now downloaded.

RichCopy – Microsoft’s Multi-Threaded File Copy Utility - 2013 - Paul G. Tarver

Great text and comments. They also reference.

15 Free File Copy Tools Tested for the Fastest Transfer Speeds

And a reminder to turn off anti-virus scanning if you want speed. 
And obviously, making sure that if it is a USB port, it should be USB 3 rather than 2.

There is a fair amount of discussion about Network copying.  Is that including Internet TCP-IP?  I may have to read more carefully.
Can you get 50 Gigabytes in hours rather than days with any of these tools like RichCopy/Robocopy?

The other RoboCopy offshoots?  RichCopy updated in 2011.

RoboMirror - updated 2014

WinRoboCopy - updated 2016

I don't think enough consideration is given to the question of 100% accuracy.  Although in my case, not needed.
Here are a few more of the interesting discussions.


RichCopy alternative file copy program to RoboCopy (RichCopy more granular than WinRoboCopy)

Add a Graphical User Interface (GUI) to the Microsoft Robocopy Command Line Tool - 2012 - RoboMirror and Richcopy

How do I ... use RichCopy for high-powered file copy and transfers? (helpful on choices)

Any recommendations for a seamless 'Robust File Copy' addition to Windows? [closed]

If You Like RoboCopy, Consider RichCopy Too - 2012

Need fast advice on a Windows file server migration - 400+ GB - 2013

GS RichCopy 360 Multithreading File Copying Technology


Thanks for the info.

Zero Zipper looks excellent. I ran it and it was fun. Maybe using Robocopy as well.

One extra feature would be if they gave you an inclusion capability on file types. e.g. Only .mbx and .toc (e.g. some folders have thousands of .jpgs form attachments that do not need their zero byte new equivalent.)  However, the 0 bytes files are easy enough to delete en masse so that can be seen as a frill.

It turns out my save was incomplete so I am going to do email remotely till I am back in Dutchess County.  And then do a new full save.

Thanks for the excellent feed back from DonL of XYplorer.


If you need the fastest type copy, what is recommended these days?  Which tool? What mode? 
Maybe Syncovery?  Maybe a special fast mode in Total Commander or XYplorer?  The regular modes I used on both really was too slow for my 70 Gigabytes. Many hours.

Another variable is how good they are on dealing with oddball things like ultra-long names.  Each tool varies, and you like to be uninterrupted (e.g. ask the questions at the end, and always have a "Skip All" answer.)

Some of this actually repeated from earlier, 2009.

Recreate files but without content to target drive


The data where the file structure matches the filters is 800 miles away.  If I change the names there (the filters will automatically match and change) in a slightly cumbersome manner with Teamviewer, I can not get the 50GB worth of data over here in any convenient way for a month or so. 

If I bring the structure over to my current computer, I can do the fix fairly simply.

An alternative: If someone knows a way to transport 70GB (more accurate) over the net in a reasonable time affordably, I could use that solution as well.


However, looking for a way to make a copy of a file structure, blanking out the data, seems like a fairly simple routine, in one method it would be 3-step.

Place the name of the file in a variable.
Delete the original
Build a new empty file with the variable name.

So theoretically it could be done with something as easy as a batch file. Or, more elegantly, AutoHotkey. However, I always like a designed tool and avoid PC batch stuff, having been spoiled by the OCL on the System 36.  Should I just try AutoHotKey, or the similar one?


MailStore is a good program, with which I have tinkered a bit. I'm not sure that its search facility is as friendly and strong as Eudora, with the current folder and sub-folder status.

As far as I can tell, Total Commander, my main file manager, works properly with the leading spaces. I just brought XyPlorer into play because of a time crunch.  It messing up the leading spaces was a bit of a surprise.  The puter is Windows 7.

Your advice on avoiding spaces (and especially leading spaces) is good, and noted.  However, it is a longer term solution.  I am trying to have a good one-time fix with what I have now.  That will be most easily handled by blanking out the data bringing over the file structure and making some hand adjustments to the one with data (most of the files do have leading blanks.)


My Eudora has a couple of hundred files (.mbx and .toc) I would like to clear out the data and keep the structure.

The reason now is funny. When I copied the 50+ gigabytes of data from puter to USB with XYPlorer it glitched out on the leading spaces.  (It sometimes left less spaces in the target usb.) This will mess up the filters.

Now I am 800 miles away and I want to fix the file names on the USB restored files.  If I could clear out the data on the remote source files with a simple script or utiity, I could copy over the structure with Teamviewer.  Then fix the structure by hand.  (Granted I could probably do this remotely, but in a more cumbersome manner.)

Also I could see this having possible additional future uses. e.g. Making a yearly archive of all the email.

Good method to use?


> Although for me uBlock Origin was not a viable alternative.  The cure was worse than the disease.  Enough sites went weird with it running that I just got rid of it.

(Wait.. the below is for uMatrix!)

I think the trick, especially on youtube sites which should have a global allow somehow, is to quickly hit the block and either make one or two reds green (frame and all) which still leaves nonsense things like google-analytics blocked. Or simply disable (top, toward the left.) The point is that if you have 15 or 20 websites open that are ok, they are far less likely to be scripting away to plunge your firefox into darkeness.  A reasonable trade-off.

If I remember, I dumped uBlock Origin also.


Didn't we have a favorite and best download sites thread?  That one I can not find.


This article helps explain, on the flipside, why you need to use integrity sites, or at least avoid shlock sites and be careful.

Here’s What Happens When You Install the Top 10 Apps

Discussed here on DC:

Beware of Download Sites - Jan 2015

Similarly How-to-Geek has a "sky is falling" article, maybe 2015:

Yes, Every Freeware Download Site is Serving Crapware (Here’s the Proof)

Donationcoder is on this July 2016 list as well (which may be using MakeUseOf.)

Top 10 Free Websites for Downloading Windows Software

Make Tech Easier similarly in May, 2016

5 Safe Websites for Downloading Windows Software

Gizmo in Sept, 2016

Best Freeware Download Sites

4 Download Portal features I dislike - Feb 2016

Just noticed that Skype now has a $3 a month unlimited that includes USA calls.  That might be a happy compromise. The convenience is worth the $3. 

Since I do not have a cell phone, I also use Skype a bit for the longer SMS messages.  They cost about .05 or more, but again, quite convenient when I am at the keyboard.

Currently reading the Lifehacker articles as to the basics.
2013 -
2012 -

They go into paid vs. free
Free refs - Hotspot Shield, CyberGhost VPN, and HideMan, 

A few hours a week would cover cafe use, if that is the purpose.


Companies like Windscribe in Canada (a new company that made a splash) and VPN Unlimited seem to have specials along the usage of one year at $20 or lifetime at $40.

Some discussions (e.g. Reddit) have been fairly favorable.
Reddit has threads here for Windscribe (which may or may not be available now.)

Could check Wilders and others too.

While TechDirt has something on VPN Unlimited here, which apparently has won various awards:

My VPN questions?

Where does this help? 
What does it mean in terms of speed and stability?
Do I take a free spin to see if I like the interface and such?
Do I have to up my techie level?

Can I tell them to not fudge my home location? I am on forums where I want to say "hey, this is from Dutchess County".
Is that a global situation?

Does anything over 3 years really matter? In a likelihood probability sense.

Am I doing this for "Jade Helm" invisibility protection? 
Financial security in transactions? 
Connections between puters (currently use Teamviewer and stuff like that, on low-key connections.)
To be cool.

There is a thread here about a baked-in Opera VPN.

I am generally just interested in knowing more and hearing what you folks think.


 Thanks.  I am in a different world.

Clamshell Cell Phone for regular calls (cheap LG Go-Phone used on Cingular family plan acct) 

iPad Tablet on same plan - uses Skype and Facebook for free calls, (could try Google Voice, do not have a free method here either for ad hoc calls)

Windows 7 - ** where I am really looking for the free ad hoc calls without the .02 a minute of Skype

So I was really asking about finding a free Windows way, and that is where Google Voice does not add contacts well, for whatever reason.
And I should try on the iPad as well.
However for quick calling and searching and good sound through speakers and mic, I am most concerned with Windows


When you connect in one touch, can you indicate what OS?  What browser?
What the button says?  Do you give the contact a name at that point?
Maybe a description or pic of the screen.

This is the fly in the ointment.  I never have been able to take a call I made and easily save it as a searchable contact.  If there is something there I am missing, I will try to go that route.



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