@mouser: If you think this is becoming divisive we should probably lock the thread.
My impression is not that mouser feels it
has become divisive, but that it
could, and he's wanting to keep things friendly.
One lesson I learned years ago: when I'm around friends and family (especially over a Thanksgiving meal), don't discuss political/religious things unless you want an argument. Of course, this is because my family members have such diverse views and strongly held opinions.