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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 20, 2008, 03:01 AM »

great! But if I want this in the meantime it should be doable through a plugin right? I've just now tried getting it to run via the javascript plugin system. I think I need something like this:

Code: Javascript [Select]

FARR.setStrValue("launch","htmlviewurl filename.html");

But I haven't gotten it to run just yet.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 20, 2008, 02:33 AM »

quick question: Can FARR display the html on the fly when a searchphrase is entered (without pressing enter)? Or do I need to handle that through a plugin?

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Living Room / Re: Dino Run - cool online retro style multiplayer game

« Last post by Nod5 on June 19, 2008, 04:37 PM »

Yes, really fun! I haven't grown tired of it yet. It looks boringly simple at first glance but is actually really challenging in multiplayer mode. I first played as a guest but now finally registered a nick and realized that there are more maps available when you level up!

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Find And Run Robot / Re: [bug] tooltip with file name blocks click

« Last post by Nod5 on June 17, 2008, 08:02 PM »

Since all the tooltip contains is the full file name its position seems fine. It only needs to let clicks through.
Explorer and some other programs have tooltip windows that display other info than the filename. In such cases it makes sense to not place the tooltip directly over the file name. But what is the point of moving the tooltip like that in FARR? (assuming that click through tooltips are doable)

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 17, 2008, 07:50 PM »

great!

I look forward to testing this cool feature some more.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 17, 2008, 05:30 PM »

Mouser, farr:// links presently only seem to work with showhtml, not showfile or igo. Correct?

I saved this test html code to the local file "x.html":

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<a href='farr://htmlviewurl exacttimenow.com'><img src='%FARRDIR%\AliasGroups\Installed\Core_Aliases\icons\farr\core-internet_www.ico'></a> click the image to Internal Surf to exacttimenow.com <a href='farr://restartsearch gowebpage'>use internal command to launch FARR webpage in external browser</a>

When running it via igo, it displays (except for the image) but the links give this error popup:
"current contents are not safe for local launching."

When running it via an alias that does showfile x.html, then then source of the .html is displayed in FARR as plaintext.

edit: fixed typo

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Find And Run Robot / [bug] tooltip with file name blocks click

« Last post by Nod5 on June 17, 2008, 05:05 PM »

Here is a small bug: when browsing files and the filename is wider than the filename column, holding the mouse pointer over the filename opens a tooltip with the complete filename right above the original filename and extending outside the column and even outside the FARR window (see screencap). Great, but one problem: it is then not possible to click on the filename.
Suggested fix: allow clicks to pass through the tooltip if possible.

edit: changed "file path" in title to "file name"

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FARR Plugins and Aliases / Re: GTDTiddlyWikiPlus for FARR (alias pack)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 15, 2008, 10:18 AM »

Some thoughts:

There's a very real risk that some users will also want more and more advanced browser related tools, plugins, aliases and add-ons (ad-blockers and so on). It could go downhill to bloat city from there...

I say stick to the core functionality of doing small tasks as quickly and as easily as possible. Primarily to ultraquickly find and operate on files, folders, programs, bookmarks, processes and system settings. Html View Mode adds the functionality of quickly displaying small webpages or local html documents. But that is in line with the core when used for small, clean pages displayed briefly (to check email, rss, tv-schedule, todo and so on). Not so for other heavy-duty, full screen and long time browsing tasks.

To get more specific, here are some possible features for Html View Mode:
1. adress field
2. toolbar buttons: back, forward, home...
3. various browser add-ons
4. full blown adblocker
5. greasemonkey/proxomitron style page manipulation tools
6. alias specific window position, size and focus options
7. tabbed browsing

I'm for 5 & 6 since they can enhance the core by simplifying pages before display and make interaction between Html View Mode and FARR easier through farr:// links.

I'm unsure if 1-4 and 7 would be needed for anything that a regular browser isn't already better suited for. Can you guys give some good examples for why they would be good in FARR? (I can see the point of a %lasturl% variable though)

Another thought: the Html View Mode risks shifting FARR from a very keyboard centric program (which is a great thing when it comes to speed) to something that may require both mouse and keyboard. Adding toolbars could increase that shift even more. The Html View Mode would "fit in" more with the rest of FARR if keyboard navigation for it could be enhanced somehow. For example, when navigating webpage elements with Tab/shift-tab can the selected element be more strongly marked visually through a larger and distinctly colored border? Can FARR take control of the up and down keys for the webpage so that page elements can be navigated that way too? Can FARR similarly control the number keys to click the 1st, 2nd and so on element the displayed html page?

So in summary, I hope that future Html View Mode enhancements are keyboard centric and stick to what I've called the core functionality. But of course in the end it is up to Mouser to set the course for FARR.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Where to suggest / request Firefox Addons?

« Last post by Nod5 on June 15, 2008, 09:20 AM »

Hi Kaon, this may not do exactly what you ask for but it's maybe close enough? (if it works - I haven't tried it)
https://addons.mozil...S/firefox/addon/1765
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Muting_browser

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 14, 2008, 09:16 AM »

Here's an updated version of my test file "album.html" that now also can handle two search phrases (both must match) separated by a space:

Code: Javascript [Select]

<HTML>
<HEAD>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
 
<FORM NAME="a">
<INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="b">
</FORM>
 
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="javascript">
 
var loc = window.location
document.a.b.value = loc
 
var text = document.a.b.value
 
function delineate(str)
{
left = str.indexOf("?") + 1;
return(str.substring(left));
}
xx = delineate(text);
xx = xx.toLowerCase()
 
var ww = [];
var pos=xx.indexOf(" ")
if (pos>=0)
 var ww = xx.split(" ")
else 
{       
 pos=xx.indexOf("%20")          //firefox compatibility mode, since javascript debugging is handy in FF
 if (pos>=0) 
  var ww = xx.split("%20")
}
 
// document.write(xx+ "  " + ww[0] + "  " + ww[1] + "<br><br>");
 
function albummatch(zz)
{
var zz1 = zz.toLowerCase()
var pos=zz1.indexOf(xx)
if (pos>=0)
 document.write("<a href='" +zz+ "/test.m3u'><img BORDER=0 src='" +zz+ "/folder.jpg' width=200 height=200></a>")
 }
 
function albummatch2(zz)
{
var zz1 = zz.toLowerCase()
var pos=zz1.indexOf(ww[0])
var pos2=zz1.indexOf(ww[1])
if (pos>=0 && pos2>=0)
 document.write("<a href='" +zz+ "/test.m3u'><img BORDER=0 src='" +zz+ "/folder.jpg' width=200 height=200></a>")
 }
 
xarr = new Array("beatles - yellow submarine", "rolling stones - exile on main street", "beatles - abbey road") 
 
if (ww[1])
for (var i = 0; i < xarr.length; i++) {
albummatch2(xarr[i])
}
else
for (var i = 0; i < xarr.length; i++) {
albummatch(xarr[i])
}
 
 
</script>

I tried it with a much larger number of folders and it works fine. Promising!

Mouser, is it possible to use a special farr:// link to silently do a command line action? When clicking a specific image I want to send it's related folder to an external audio player through such a link. If possible then that sidesteps the use of .m3u playlist files.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 14, 2008, 04:33 AM »

I just tested and it indeed works!

I made an alias "alb" that passes the search string to a the file "album.html" as a parameter. So doing "alb beatl" passes "beatl". Album.html loops over a list of foldernames and displays an image if the foldername matches the passed string. Each displayed image links to a .m3u file that when run plays the tracks on the album.

So the plugin I requested here seems more and more doable: https://www.donation....msg116150#msg116150
A drawback with the current test is that you in advance must index the folders and make the .html. A script can do that if the folders are well structured but it is still not ideal. It's also not as easy select and run a displayed match as in FARR's default mode. It would definitely be better if FARR's default mode could show a list of linked images like that. I think such a feature could be useful for other stuff too, like displaying thumbnails when searching for images. Or searching anything else for which a thumbnail can be useful really.

Here's "album.html" (to be placed in helpers folder):

Code: Javascript [Select]

<HTML>
<HEAD>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
 
<FORM NAME="a">
<INPUT TYPE="hidden" NAME="b">
</FORM>
 
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="javascript">
 
var loc = window.location
document.a.b.value = loc
 
var text = document.a.b.value
 
function delineate(str)
{
left = str.indexOf("?") + 1;
return(str.substring(left));
}
xx = delineate(text);
 
document.write(xx+"<br><br>");
 
function albummatch(zz)
{
var pos=zz.indexOf(xx)
if (pos>=0)
 document.write("<a href='" +zz+ "/test.m3u'><img BORDER=0 src='" +zz+ "/folder.jpg' width=200 height=200></a><br>")
}
 
xarr = new Array("beatles - yellow submarine", "rolling stones - exile on main street", "beatles - abbey road") 
 
for (var i = 0; i < xarr.length; i++) {
albummatch(xarr[i])
}
</script>

And the alias:

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1000>>>album>->test param pass to album search .html | htmlviewurl %FARRDIR%\Helpers\album.html?$$1>+>^alb (.*)$

It also needs some folders and files of course. edit: See the array "xarr" above for details.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 13, 2008, 06:56 PM »

this gave me another thought..
perhaps one way we could give people to write a different kind of farr "plugin"
is to let an alias load an html/javascript page, and automatically set some javascript variables corresponding to the search string.

this is very similar to the dqsd idea but even simpler. FARR would simply load an html page and preset some variables so the javascript on the page could know what was typed into search string, and proceed to handle it the way it wants.
-mouser (June 13, 2008, 06:27 PM)

Isn't it possible to just make an alias that passes the search string as a parameter to the .html file? Without any plugin needed? (but maybe that was just what what you meant when you added quotes around the term plugin?)

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 13, 2008, 06:41 PM »

The basic tiddlywiki.com runs in FARR but I can't save:

Edit: but I get the same error in my regular browser so FARR isn't the problem. It's pretty obvious that I don't know much about tiddlywiki

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 13, 2008, 06:18 PM »

I just played some more with the new Html View Mode.

I made a local .html file containing an ultracompact version of the Compact Calendar ( http://davidseah.com...age/compact-calendar ) and added some javascript to make it highlight the current date (= cell with light blue background in screencap) and scroll to the current week on launch. Needs some more work but so far it offers very quick date and week number lookup. Screencap (the red stuff in swedish are names of national holidays):

With the farr:// functionality I think dynamically adding tasks to such a html calendar (or any other local html for that matter...) could be possible roughly like this: For each table cell, add a farr:// link that runs some command with the cell id as a parameter. That command (tied to an autohotkey script or some plugin) edits the basic html file by changing the contents of the cell with the matching id and then refreshes the the displayed html. Not a real replacement for google calendar or other full features calendars of course, but it could still be useful for some things.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: old IE of HTML view - solved

« Last post by Nod5 on June 13, 2008, 04:40 AM »

czechboy, my FARR doesn't lose focus like that.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Feature request: Quick stay on top button

« Last post by Nod5 on June 13, 2008, 04:35 AM »

Good idea this!

A related suggestion: some way to temporarily make it harder to close the FARR window. (like the "protect tab" feature in Firefox).

Background:
I have enabled "Close Window after launch by default" and very often close FARR with esc. With the Html View Mode I at least have started to use FARR in slightly new ways (and I suspect that I won't be the only one doing so). Previously, I never had it visible more than a few seconds - open, find, run, close. Now I've also started to use it to display html files, websites or things like that that I want visible slightly longer while doing things in another window. But then it is very easy to accidentally close FARR. So a protection option makes sense.

more brainstorming on this idea:

Some visual indicator when FARR is in a protected state would be good also.

ctrl + escape could enable protection
double-tapping escape (or clicking the upper right corner X) could break the protection and close FARR

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Tip: Htmlviewurl works for local files too! :)

« Last post by Nod5 on June 12, 2008, 05:51 AM »

kartal and others, here is an example alias that uses farr:// links:

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1000>>>test>->test | showhtml <a href='farr://htmlviewurl exacttimenow.com'><img src='%FARRDIR%\AliasGroups\Installed\Core_Aliases\icons\farr\core-internet_www.ico'></a> click the image to Internal Surf to exacttimenow.com <a href='farr://restartsearch gowebpage'>use internal command to launch FARR webpage in external browser</a>>+>^test$

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Alias icon not showing

« Last post by Nod5 on June 11, 2008, 02:51 PM »

I just tried creating some alias files with icons for the sites using Html View Mode listed in this thread. But when testing I can't get the icons to display.

example:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="Legacy" ?>

<FarrAliasFile>
<FileFormatVersion>1</FileFormatVersion>
<AliasSetDescription>aliases using Html View Mode to display web content</AliasSetDescription>
<AliasEntry>
<AliasText>time</AliasText>
<Score>1000</Score>
<Regex>^time$</Regex>
<Results>
<Result>Internal Surf to exacttimenow | htmlviewurl http://exacttimenow.com/ /ICON=icons\exacttimenow.ico</Result>
</Results>
</AliasEntry>
</FarrAliasFile>

directory structure:
FindAndRunRobot\AliasGroups\MyCustom\HtmlViewMode\exacttimenow.alias
FindAndRunRobot\AliasGroups\MyCustom\HtmlViewMode\icons\exacttimenow.ico

When running the alias it looks like this:

edit: I just noticed that I have the same problem when doing a regular igo ____ . I don't pay much attention to the icons so I haven't thought about that before.

edit2: tried a clean reinstall of FARR. Didn't help.
BTW mouse, on second launch after reinstall FARR displays this traytip. The blue link is mistakenly placed behind the text, right?

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View

« Last post by Nod5 on June 10, 2008, 05:54 PM »

we need to make an alias pack, complete with icons, for all of these htmlview things.
-mouser (June 10, 2008, 10:39 AM)

I'll try to make some when I have more time. What is the latest guideline for the format? (I think I've asked that before but I didn't find that thread now. It would be good if that was made a sticky in the FARR forum part)

When an alias uses htmlview to display non-local pages then an option to use the related website's favicon would make sense (maybe FARR could download a copy of the favicon the very first time the alias runs?)

re: greasemonkey-ish functionality: maybe in the form of a regexp field in the alias setup window where we can specify what in the html to filter out (or alternatively "filter in") before it is displayed?

kartal: I can see the point of custom FARR window resizing and I bet mouser will implement some support for that. But I'm also unsure how useful the very large sizes would be. For large size pages a regular browser is better. FARR can really excel as a browser complement for small pages that load fast, have a specific focus and are used briefly but repeatedly. Like checking the time, the tv schedule, some RSS feed, a weather report, a todo list and so on. Its the same niche that I think projects like Prism have tried to fill.

Also, good idea with ip checking! Here is an even simpler page:

igo http://checkip.dyndns.org/
1000>>>ip>->Internal Surf to display WAN ip | htmlviewurl http://checkip.dyndns.org/>+>^ip$
display your WAN ip

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Living Room / Dino Run - cool online retro style multiplayer game

« Last post by Nod5 on June 10, 2008, 04:51 PM »

You, a small dinosaur, run from left to right, passing various obstacles (inanimate and other) and trying to get to safety before you are buried by a wall of lava and smoke. Made in retro style big pixel graphics. And there is an online multiplayer mode!
http://www.pixeljam.com/dinorun/

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Find And Run Robot / Re: feature request : shift+enter=internal html viewer

« Last post by Nod5 on June 10, 2008, 04:40 PM »

I think both the alt+enter suggestion and the lists suggestion are good. Can they coexist? If the list suggestion is implemented it would then be good if FARR could graphically mark all items that, when run, will use the internal browser. For example, they could get a special (light) background color.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Minimal web pages which fit into FARR HTML View

« Last post by Nod5 on June 10, 2008, 07:08 AM »

Good idea herojoker!

I was about to post a similar thread but now I'll stick to this.

Note that many webpages have special versions for mobile devices, made for a smaller screen and with less clutter. The ones I've tried work great in FARR.

To keep it functional, I'll stick to this four line format:

igo URL
(custom alias)
description of the page
(screencap)

...where line 2 and 4 is optional

igo http://exacttimenow.com/
1000>>>time>->time | htmlviewurl http://exacttimenow.com/ /ICON=icons\farr\core-internet_www.ico>+>^time$
large clock with exact time/date

igo m.rememberthemilk.com
online todo list, mobile version

igo http://www.google.co....net/boingboing/iBag
read any feed via google reader: http://www.google.co...m/view/feed/XXXXXXXX where XXXXXXXX is the feed URL.

update:
igo http://www.mailinato...sp?b=somerandomemail
1000>>>mailinator>->Internal Surf to Mailinator $$1 | htmlviewurl http://www.mailinato...dget/mailin8r.jsp?b=$$1>+>^(?:maili|mailin|mailina|mailinat|mailinato|mailinator) (.*)
check disposable email (note: to use mailinator with some privacy, pick a long, obscure adress and use its alternative inbox name when you sign up for forums etc)

igo http://embed.mibbit....nel=%23donationcoder
1000>>>irc>->Internal Surf to mibbit efnet #donationcoder | htmlviewurl http://embed.mibbit....nationcoder>+>^irc$
use #donationcoder IRC channel at efnet via the mibbit.com widget

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FARR Plugins and Aliases / Re: Post your FARR v2 Plugin Idea Requests Here - Plugin Writers Read In

« Last post by Nod5 on June 10, 2008, 06:35 AM »

I have a folder.jpg cover image file in almost all my mp3 music album folders.

Maybe a plugin can be made that utilizes the new HTML output mode to make searching for a mp3 album much cooler!

Example:

the user inputs "mp3 beatl".
FARR searches some folders for subfolders that
(1) contain the searchphrase "beatl" and
(2) contains a "folder.jpg" file
FARR displays the folder.jpg for the matches in HTML mode at some set size (200x200 for example), in this case some beatles albums.
When the users runs a match, the corresponding album is sent to the default mp3 player (either by running the related m3u file or sending all mp3 files in the folder to the player)

edit:
This plugin would involve these steps I think:

1. user inputs "pluginalias searchstring"
2. FARR feeds matching folder paths to plugin
3. plugin loops over each match:
if it contains folder.jpg, append that to a html with a link to .m3u
4. FARR displays the html in Html View Mode (showhtml HTMLCONTENT)

Does it seem possible to do based on the javascript plugin system? (if so then I'll give a shot at making a crude version of it myself)

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Today is release day !!!

« Last post by Nod5 on June 09, 2008, 02:47 PM »

New FARR release - great great great Mouser!

It will be really interesting to see what cool ways to use the html view mode that people will come up with.

edit: viewing HTML (webpages) in FARR is really addictive! After some quick testing it seems to me that many mobile phone formatted versions of webpages work especially well with a small FARR window. The pages load lightning fast and they often stick to the essential information (few ads, no large logos at the top of the page, no or little scrolling needed, and so on...)

Some regular pages are also minimal enough to fit well into a small FARR window. For example, try: igo http://exacttimenow.com/
(as a custom alias: 1000>>>time>->time | htmlviewurl http://exacttimenow.com/ /ICON=icons\farr\core-internet_www.ico>+>^time$ )

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General Software Discussion / Re: Whatever happened to... <INSERT DEADWARE HERE>

« Last post by Nod5 on June 06, 2008, 03:38 AM »

HKSFV
made by the now vanished big-o-software:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.big-o-software.com/
still available here:
http://www.download....2248_4-10157349.html
and still the best tool for very quick sfv/md5 creation/checking. But also still somewhat buggy.

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