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Living Room / Re: Fantastic Rant ...
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 09, 2011, 08:47 AM »
hm, well I think snopes is wrong in their closing remarks.

http://www.snopes.co...ss/bank/takethat.asp

Saying that should this situation present itself, it's more the customers fault.
I have to disagree, seeing that my bank used for 5 years of service (so far) will cover any checks with insufficient funds (I can't remember if there is a limit) for a period of 7 days before any rejection or penalties.

I was more than a bit irked by that rather unrealistic wise-crack also. The whole point of Electronic Deposit is it is supposed to be guaranteed and hassle free...Or at least that's what they tell you when you sign-up for it...

Back in the "Good Ol' Days"...There was also a courtesy practice of doing all the deposits first, and then the debits were done. Unfortunately that hampered their grubby fee collection claws too much so now they do it (backwards...) in what ever order they come to it in... (BS).

I had one shister credit card company that thought it would be a hoot to play games with the payment timing so they could jack my interest from 7% up to 30%. This was done under the rather foolish assumption that I would be a proper sheeple and just pay it... hehe ...Wrong. If they'd have just been a bit less gready...

Now I pay nothing, IMO they violated the spirit of the contract, and I have chosen to sever the relationship.  :D
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Living Room / Re: Fantastic Rant ...
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 08, 2011, 09:52 PM »
While I've read it before, it was well worth reading it again. :)

Guess I did too. Snopes covered this "letter" previously. Link to it here.

Update: I now see the same Snopes link has begun showing up in the comments that follow the LinkedIn article starting yesterday.

Actually the snopes links and "It's a fake" battle cry was already in the LinkedIn comments (albeit far down the page) when I did the first post here right after Carol. I saw no point in raining on her parade, so I didn't mention it.

However I did (perhaps a bit too subtly) allude to it in my second post by saying "The nay sayers should really stop and think really hard about what they are doing. This woman should be wontedly willed into existence"...
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Living Room / Re: Fantastic Rant ...
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 08, 2011, 01:42 PM »
nevertheless I love the sentiments

As do I. The nay sayers should really stop and think really hard about what they are doing. This woman should be wontedly willed into existence, given a name, and then publicized until every man, woman, and child on the planet knows it by heart. Her name (now a common household word) should then become the 8th dirty word you can't use on television and reserved for exclusive use on bank personnel when they are once again trying to stick it in to the elbow.

Places like Bank of America, which I just pulled out of last week because their constant fees were draining my savings account. They actually have the balls to charge me for using my money?!? Oh hell no.

I think they should erect a statue of this woman in the center of every town as a hero to the common man ... and then hang a banker from it, at least once a year ... Just until they (the banks) start catching on to the whole when enough is enough thing.
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Living Room / Re: Fodder for history buffs
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 07, 2011, 02:40 PM »
No that would have been history for f0dder buffs. :)
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Living Room / Re: Should I buy a tablet pc, ipad, netbook, or other?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 07, 2011, 12:27 PM »
lol ...According to the wife yes (he got a bunch of his friends busted), but his last name really was Dick back then. Hollywood changed it to Allen (as they're in the habit of doing (ala Norma Jean).
he got them busted for what?  Drugs?

But officer the coke is only for "Personal Use"... You want the guy I got it from...That'll get you in the papers.

Can You Say, Canary Mode??
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Living Room / Re: Should I buy a tablet pc, ipad, netbook, or other?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 07, 2011, 12:05 PM »
lol ...According to the wife yes (he got a bunch of his friends busted), but his last name really was Dick back then. Hollywood changed it to Allen (as they're in the habit of doing (ala Norma Jean).
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Living Room / Re: Should I buy a tablet pc, ipad, netbook, or other?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 07, 2011, 11:48 AM »
^ Tim Allen?  Or are we talking some thing else?  ;D

Yepper Tim Allen, then known as Tim Dick. She's talked to him via FB once or twice.
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Living Room / Re: Fantastic Rant ...
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 07, 2011, 11:30 AM »
While I've read it before, it was well worth reading it again. :)
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Living Room / Re: Should I buy a tablet pc, ipad, netbook, or other?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 07, 2011, 11:15 AM »
The badge could be like an apple with horns coming out or something.

That does sound like fun ... Can the rest of us (or at least Renegade and I) get a flaming apple with a knife stuck through it?

Freaking Pixar...they sure make awesome movies.  The Toy Story's are all brilliant.

My wife went to high school with Buz Lightyear
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--The one thing I am worried about and will probably spend the most time thinking about: how to prevent BAD backups and only have good backups.  Let me explain.  Let's say I have a hard drive, and I back it up with double-redundancy using two more hard drives and syncing (SFFS).  Now, let's say the original drive got infected with a virus that got into a bunch of my files.  Soon after, that virus will be backed up to three places.  And now I don't have an original GOOD version anywhere!  How do you prevent that?  It doesn't help if you back up with multiple redundancy if they all have the same BAD files.
If you become infected, you should expect all files on all disks on your system to be infected... but (silent) file corruption not caused by virii is another situation.

Realistically how likely of a threat is that (I've been wondering about this for a while)? It seems like the bulk of the EvilDoerWare these days only goes after the shell and your wallet/identity (not necessarily in that order). There really hasn't been a good file eating virus (that I recall) in the wild since Snow White almost a decade ago. The SBD file corruption seem a more (real?) likely threat these days to me (But I'm on the fence).

Mind you I'm not arguing the point, I really am just curious about your thoughts on this matter.
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Personally, though I used to use tape backup more than a decade ago, I just don't see myself ever going back there given the low cost of drive space and speed advantages (both for backup and restore). I know it's still widely used by enterprise though.

I'm with Ya, I'm beginning to transition to USB drive backups myself now that the small easy to carry 2.5" drives are over 500GB and under $100. However the setup I described above was deployed 5 years ago when that wasn't the case. So tape made sense back then.

My point for SB was how the backups can be staggard to maximize coverage and minimize futzing arround at the same time. By organizing the data based on (static vs. dynamic) change frequency. And I agree that not everything really needs to be backed up if it's already stored as a hard copy, or just really not that critical (we all have a few files like that...).
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Damn JJ we're turning into a couple of long winded bastards here ain't we? I'm guessing you type alot faster than I do 'cause ya beat me ... So I'll have to read yours in a minute.

 :D
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It's a question of static vs. dynamic data. Backup frequency is dependant on how often critical changes are made.

Example:
I have a client with 300GB of important business data, and a 36GB tape backup drive. But, 90% of the data is historical (e.g. never changes). So... The have 2 servers, one new, and the old one it replaced.

Server 1 (the new(er) one), runs SBS2k3, and stores all their currently active stuff. It also has the tape drive in it. Backup of their active data, System State, AD, etc. require all of one tape, and sometimes part of a second. Exchange (also critical to backup) just flat won't fit...without going to a 3 tape a day rotation - Which is insane. So...

Server 1 is RAID5, That's the primary line of defense for the OS in the event of a disk failure. secondary line (if 2 disk failure, etc.), is the daily backup of AD and System State data. The complete configuration is also heavily documented so a brick level rebuild can be done quickly if necessary. The other business data is backed up fully Monday through Thursday when a 2nd tape can be added in the morning if necessary (this is the data that changes most frequently).

Exchange is backed up on Fridays only by itself, because it handily fits on one tape, and nobody is there on Saturdays to add a second tape. otherwise a daily business data backup would always fail (timeout) on Saturday morning if it was run. So there I've staged when what was backed based on a heriarchy of what was most likely to change to maximize the highest number of changes that could be saved.

Now the bulk of the static historical data on server 2 (also RAID5) is backed up once a month, to one of a pair of 1.5TB USB drives. This is because the data on it only changes when the file handling policy declares that something is "old enough" and is manually pushed to the server. This is done in the last few days of the month, because the USB drive backup is scheduled on the 1st of every month.

That way if - by some odd strike of bad luck - something went wrong big time ... the only unbackedup data that could be lost, would be the most current, and therefore easiest data to recreate.

All of the backup operations are logged, and a full report of the results are Emailed to both myself and the business' owner every morning. That way if something does go wrong with the backups... We Know! ;)
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Fork? Knife?  Just make everything "finger food"!

Jim

As apposed to food fingers..?
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Stoic, one of the things you seem to be implying above is that RAID can be a stand-in for backup (the comment about how do you backup 10TB of data). As far as I understand that's contrary to common wisdom about RAID.
Many of the really high-end deduplicating RAID6 storage devices claim to be able to eliminate the need for a backup. However I'm not entirely sold on that idea either. I prefer to have RAID as a first line of defense, and then have a backup for those "special moments" when shit really hits the fan.

Here's the thing, from SMBs to SOHOs down to the average Home Owner, everybody is on-a-budget. So what typically happens is enough hardware is bought to store the data being used. Some type of backup is discussed and is maybe even used a few times. Then the data grows and the space needed to store it gets bigger. Now it all no-longer fits on the backup, so the "important stuff" discussion ensues. Either that or somebody comes up with the "Let's do an incremental backup" idea, and nobody has the forethought to shoot them for saying it ... before the plan is put in place.

Note: I'm cringing right now just thinking about the number of time I walked into a new client to find they've been using the same five pieces of media to do incremental backups, for the last five years ... Chance of a successful recovery? Zero!

Both scenarios tend to end badly as backups just love to fail. And they do so at an extremely high rate. RAID on the other hand, could fail. Synchronization & backup schemes both have the same (glaring) flaw. The are simple, easy, set-it-and-forget-it systems. ...and it's that last, forget it, part that bites'em in the ass every time!

Synchronization, like mirroring (RAID1) both like to give people two identical copies of the same error. So if a disk fails in the middle of a sync... (point here being every system has a weak point)

Now for the average end user that comes trotting home with a brand new PC, a few ideas of what they can do with it, and maybe even a shiny new digital camera... Obviously a server would be a completely stupid to even suggest. (I'm picturing Goofy from the old Disney driving cartoons trotting out of a BestBuy here)

However, you and SB are not typical end users. You have an established system architected into a strategy that is so far working for you. Great go with it. SB on the other hand, is looking to start-from-scratch (so to speak), and is coming out of the gate planing on warehousing 10+TB of data. Those NAS boxes ain't cheap, as anything with more than 2-3 slots is well over $1,000. So if you looking at budgeting enough money for three of those ... You are much better off going with the off-lease commercial hardware that will give you a true scale-able hardware RAID configuration for a fraction of the money you would have spent on the consumer grade stuff.

Even if you are working out of your mother's basement (not saying you guys are), with 10+TB of data you have an enterprise class problem ... Which should be handled in much the same way regardless of where the data is and whom it belongs.

I'm hoping I covered everything as this has takes awhile for me to type. :)
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Living Room / Re: Anti-Necrospamming
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 06, 2011, 05:49 PM »
I was the one that dragged this thread up from the dead, because I had a comment to make in reference to ewemoa's script and the recent server move that came along with a change of forum path that caused it to stop working. That script had been posted in this thread and no other. There was no more appropriate thread to post my comment in than this one.

Right, I caught that part, and I agree completely with your reasoning for the post. I'd just been watching to see the "crowd reaction" to it ... Which is what got me started thinking about the rule circle.

As you'd mentioned both 1 & 2 are (supposed to be) Okay. But it doesn't always seem to work out that way (again with the crowd reaction part). So working off Deozzan's post I was pondering aloud a solution to something, as it had been bugging me for a bit.
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I've never understood this bizarre tradition. Let's teach everyone to use a fork in their left hand if they are right handed - what lunatic decided that was the right thing to do.

Fork vs. knife - Fork creates smaller lacerations on error... (win)

 :D
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T-Clock / Re: T-Clock 2010 (download)
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 06, 2011, 05:35 PM »
the new T-Clock version is really cool! :)

Thank you.


But i have two feature suggestions:

- I use the drop to recycle bin feature, and it works great! It would be great to have the option to see the size and number of files of the recycle bin in the Mouse-over Tooltip Text. (e.g. "10 Files, 135 MB").

Hm... There is grand potential for this to lag badly if there are a large number of files in the recycling bin. But I can try playing with it for a bit and see what happens.


- I would love to have the option to set the action in mouse-properties to "open files/folders (with command-line switches)". Just like you can do it in the "Menu Item Details". Then i could empty/open the recycle bin with just one click.

Sounds reasonable enough, I'll look into it.


Little Bug report:
Middle Mouse Button Actions doesn´t work.

That's actually a "Known Issue" ... That I forgot about... I'll have to go through my notes and see what the original issue was/is. I'm thinking that the middle button/mouse wheel was asigned to bring up a task list in Windows 7 by default so I'd given up on/disabled it at one point. But it isn't doing it now (it could have been just me...) so I've not a clue. *Shrug* I'll look into it ... Thanks for the reminder.
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Living Room / Re: What is a good desktop stapler?
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 06, 2011, 04:59 PM »
Take the easy way out (I do) ... Just send electronic copies of everything and let the other poor bastard go hunt down a friggin stapler.

 :D
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Living Room / Re: Anti-Necrospamming
« Last post by Stoic Joker on January 06, 2011, 04:51 PM »
This has actually been bugging me for awhile now, as there seems to be two different (seemingly diametrically apposed) schools of thought.

School 1 - Don't keep asking questions that have already been answered, use the search function.

School 2 - Don't resurrect old long dead threads.

So if you have a new spin on an old question you can't add it to the old thread without violating rule 1, and you also can't start a new thread without violating rule 2. Hence there really is no correct answer.

Maybe if the board would add a little tombstone to a post made to a thread that was inactive for (say...) more than 6 months to dramatize the resurrection ... And we lightened up on rule 2 a bit, it could work.
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While primarily a lefty/south paw/evil one (according to J-Mac's nuns), I am ambidextrous which was quite handy back when I was a mechanic. I can do just about anything with either hand, however I am faster with my left on everything except using a mouse. I always use a mouse with my right hand.
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Christ they've damn near got me talked into using C# at this point...

 :)
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I hear ya... I had a client with 4 drives in a RAID5 array, one drive failed ... but nobody said anything.  I got there 3 months later after they'd been screwing with it for awhile. I managed to get it to rebuild and the box came back online. There were errors showing in the logs that another disk was failing, so I shut the box back down and told them not to run it until we got some replacements. They did not listen and flipped the thing back on the instant I left the parking lot. Three days (of constant use) later two more of the drives failed.

To the greatest of plans there is always the perfect flaw...

Whoever set up their backups did it wrong. Data Was UnRecoverable.

But other than that my experience with RAID has been positive.
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In my experience, its environmental factors and age that have the most bearing on a drive's useful life expectancy.

Agreed, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll be likely to fail like dominos. Our DC here is about 7 years old, two of the 3 drives in it failed 8 months apart about 2 years ago. Assuming the third should be failing shortly I ordered two drives when the second one failed ... I'm still sitting on the spair as disk three ain't even blinked yet. *Shrug*

We also have an HP Netserver LH3 (Dual PII 400s - WWwweeeeeeeeee) that was purchased back when the company first opened almost 20 years ago (It was originally a Novell box). It still has two of it's original 3 drives in it running Server 2k3 24/7 (and it once went almost 2 years without a reboot). I ordered it's replacement today (Dell PowerEdge 2800) soley because it's just too old for the latest update of the accounting software (which is all it does). I'll probably keep it running in the lab just to see which one of us dies first... :)
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Hm... GBit limited Network speeds. How often are you moving what size file(s)? It's not like browsing the filesystem is going to lag with the traffic of a home LAN (which everybody has these days - Even if they don't know it).
Todays' drives are going to give you ~100MB/s transfer speeds - a typical gbit LAN speed is closer to 30-40MB/s, and with a lot worse latency as well. Quite a difference if you're shuffling large media files around :)

right, knew that part ... That's why I was pondering his usage/habits. I also used the word browsing for that reason. If moving a music CD the speed difference isn't a big deal. Now if you're moving a 25GB BlueRay .iso, well then yeah...Speed is a factor.

So if everything is scattered about in little data huts that would be a huge (mess) impact. But if you RDP into a server to move media files around locally there ... (hehe) ... Zoom! Which is what I do with the ton of (OS and software) ISOs I have. Granted I don't have to futz with them frequently, but when I do it never takes long.

Anyhow the question is how often does a huge media need to be moved local <-> remote? Both viewing and burning can be done over the wire. So (I am guessing here) really it's just a case of incoming organization and the occasional cleanup of stuff nobody needs/likes anymore.

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