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General Software Discussion / Re: Axialis License Key Frustrations
« Last post by app103 on April 21, 2011, 12:04 AM »
I can only tell that Axialis is well worth the money and you could consider to support them and buy a a full license that would make your life trouble-free.

It is really not expensive and they offer a lifetime license with many clipart updates.

-BartelsMedia (April 20, 2011, 04:43 PM)

If someone gave you a gift, would you toss it in the trash and then go out buy yourself the exact same thing? Because that is what you are asking me to do...throw away a gift from the developer and then buy a license to the same app the developer just gave me a free license for.
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I had a lot of fun with this awhile back when migrating from K-meleon on a 9x machine to Firefox on XP. A little bit more complex, due to having to rename some of the files to get them to work, but due to them both being Gecko based browsers, it is possible to do. The time spent researching it was far less than it would have taken to build it back up from scratch again.
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Living Room / Re: Hidden Netflix Marathon Gems to Watch Online
« Last post by app103 on April 19, 2011, 11:52 AM »
Don't rule out other sites for marathons...especially free ones.

I had a mini-marathon last night of old episodes of The George Carlin Show, on the WB site.

http://www.thewb.com/shows/full-episodes
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Inside your firefox profile folder, backup these files:

  • key3.db
  • signons.sqlite
  • signons3.txt
  • signons2.txt (this may or may not exist)
  • signons.txt (this may or may not exist)

After doing whatever it is you are going to do (remove & reinstall firefox, create a new profile, move to another machine, etc), with firefox closed, copy the backed up files to the new firefox profile and then run firefox.
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Living Room / Re: Proof That People Cannot Read (EULAs)
« Last post by app103 on April 19, 2011, 12:33 AM »
Not entirely related to Eula's, but I've always love this line from many OS licenses

This software is provided by the copyright holders and contributors "as is" and any express or implied warranties, including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose are disclaimed

When included in a Eula, the user is actually accepting that the program might not be fit for use nor do what it claims to do. From a legal point it makes sense, but imagine if the websites were up front- "This program does X, but I don't claim it's suitable to do X!"

A few of my applications contain this one:

Spoiler
DISCLAIMER:

This program is provided as is.
There are no claims made that it will work, not cause your pc
problems, etc etc.

Your mileage may vary, parental guidance is advised, call
before you dig, consult your doctor, action figures sold
separately, see a qualified tax professional, mind the gap, may
contain peanuts, no user serviceable parts inside, etc etc etc.

If this program causes your PC to explode, which in turn sets
your house on fire, killing your neighbor's dog, you assume all
responsibility for such and not me.

Use at your own risk!

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Done! And every time someone comments in this thread and brings it back into my unread posts, I vote again.  ;)
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Living Room / Re: Wear Looser Clothing to Avoid Losing Energy During the Day
« Last post by app103 on April 12, 2011, 07:50 AM »
Because we all know Loser clothing helps you not spend any of your energy having a social life outside of work, therefore decreasing the chances of spending any of your energy on things like dating, dancing, sex, etc...leaving you more energy for work the following day.  :P
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 11, 2011, 11:39 PM »
That, and their name makes me think of child molesters >_<

Oh, it doesn't make me think of that.

Coming originally from the world of retail, it makes me think of charge backs, damaged goods that the department merchandiser is supposed to record in a book and then dispose of. One of my departments was candy. Customers would occasionally rip open a bag and help themselves to some "free samples" and leave the bag sitting on the shelf. It was technically against the rules, to dispose of this candy in any other way than the trash, but it was customary for the merchandiser to leave it on his or her podium if it was something that came individually wrapped, and quietly and discreetly go around and tell the other employees about the open candy, who would then go help themselves at their leisure.

It was a way for employees to bend the rules enough to pilfer from the company and blame it on someone else (the customers). As long as we weren't the ones that opened the bag, we didn't see anything wrong with it. But like it or not, it was still breaking the rules.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 11, 2011, 10:10 PM »
That's cool... but does an individual's right to choose not to consume make the company's right to exist and operate moot?  Does an opinion not based in current facts surrounding the company make the company evil?

Pardon me, but it s a known fact that I have trust issues (I don't believe in 3 strikes and you'd be lucky if you were allowed 2), so help me out here...

When does a current fact stop being current and become old news, worthy of forgetting? If they do something seriously questionable today, do we immediately forgive and forget tomorrow, if they stop, change the way they do things, apologize, make promises, etc?

Where do YOU draw the line? At what point do you say enough is enough and now I am not going to trust you until you have proven yourselves worthy of that trust? How long does it take to win that trust back? How many infractions are they allowed during that period? How serious are those infractions allowed to be? At what point do you write them off and never trust again?

These were not just employees of DivX that were being paid to just do their job and the company made them do stuff that they didn't feel good about, so they quit.

No, these guys were very involved at a high level. It was because of them that the spyware was bundled into DivX...it was their idea and they stood behind it 100% without losing a wink of sleep.

They took what they learned while at DivX and started Open Candy to do the same, but instead of bundling it in their own software, they will get developers to bundle it in their software. And at first they will look like the good guys, sweet talking, smooth, and convincing open source and freeware developers that they are the good guys (meanwhile they keep getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar, pulling their hand out and saying "look, see, no cookie, I'm not doing anything wrong") And little by little they change the way people think about adware and spyware, redefining it, pushing the envelope until what they did at DivX is completely acceptable by the public as something wonderful. Then they can take freely from the cookie jar and say "it's only cookies, and we are only taking a few, and we are sharing them with others that deserve some too."

Because if they can get you to swallow a tiny bit of BS and make you like it, it will be that much easier to get you to swallow more and more till you live on a diet entirely of BS, and like it. And since they are going after the mainstream, you are going to end up with a McBS on every corner before too long.

A lot of that was back in 2002/2003. The Internet was much less mature then. There was a lot more experimenting.

You could say that about 1999, but not 2002/2003.

But I think a lot of lessons were learned from a lot of mistakes in the earlier years of the Internet. It's fine to look back and see mistakes with 20/20 hindsight, but... Anyways... I'm going to drop it. I really don't care much about dwelling on ancient history. It has its lessons.

Those that do not remember history are doomed to repeat it. There was a time when things like Gator, CometCursors, Gozilla, and the CueCat (a company I really wish did things right) were cool, just like OpenCandy seems to some to be cool today.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 11, 2011, 07:49 PM »
Costs need to be covered. People need to eat.

And that makes anything and everything ok? All is fair in love and war...and making money?

Don't try to whitewash what they did while at DivX...their own spokesperson sure doesn't and admits the crap they did was evil.

Those Divx Guys and My Life as a User Advocate

I’m not going to defend what some of the colleagues did while at Divx. Because I was one of the people who spent in inordinate amount of time removing the crap that Divx installed. Actually, out of the last 9 years, I’m confident in saying that I’ve spent at 2 hours a day, Monday through Sunday removing malware, adware and spyware from user’s systems. I do it for free (for those who can’t afford to pay) and I do it as a paid IT consultant (to home users and small businesses). So I’ve spent the equivalent of 273 days removing malware from systems. Heck I haven’t even been alive for 11,000 days. So approximately 2.5% of my life I’ve spent removing malware! (WOW! Now that I did the calculation and see it in writing… it’s sad.) That doesn’t include the unfathomable amount of time I’ve spent setting up Windows systems and securing them.

When I was interviewed by the OpenCandy team in February, I let my displeasure with what Divx bundled be known. And you know what? Those that were involved knew they made a mistake… and had no problem saying so. EVERYBODY makes mistakes... just NEVER make the SAME one TWICE. They didn't... What they learned at DivX allowed them to identify an opportunity to democratize software distribution so that ALL developers and ALL users could benefit. So they embarked on a mission and created a vision to do just that... the RIGHT way. And they (we) have built something that is not only beneficial to the developer community (they can increase distribution, make money or both), it’s really beneficial to users (users get to discover great software via recommendations by developers of applications they trust).

But while he has forgiven them and think they deserve another chance, especially since they are willing to give him a paycheck...I am not ready to forgive them or trust them, and can't bring myself to touch their money. You can't pay me to change my mind about them. I can't be that easily bought.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 11, 2011, 06:51 PM »
Let me put this a different way. I have a concealed weapons license, and frequently carry a gun. Banks have very high security concerns ... yet when I go to the bank, I am (and will be) carrying said a gun. Should I be accosted at the door because of what I might do? No. My actions are perfectly legal. Even though the fact that I'm standing in a bank, with a gun, does help facilitate robbing the place. It doesn't alter the simple fact that I have absolutely no intentions of doing so.

OC is simply asking for - and I feel deserves - the same courtesy.

I am sure if you had a criminal record of armed robbery they would never have given you that concealed weapons license.

Unfortunately, in the software world, there is no equivalent to that kind of license. If there was, it is unlikely OC would have ever been given one for what the founders did while at DivX. (there is your equivalent to armed robbery) And even if they had been given one, it would probably have been revoked long ago for the unique tracking IDs, stealthy registry entries, the opt-out flip-flop they made back in September, and a few other things (there is your equivalent to assault and battery).
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Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by app103 on April 08, 2011, 04:21 PM »
God is a Astronaut - Snowfall

Now you are wandering into my favorite genre (post-rock).  :-*
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Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by app103 on April 07, 2011, 01:18 PM »
Just went looking for some other Michael Bianco videos (I wasn't that familiar with him), and OMG I THINK I AM IN LOVE!  :-*



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Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by app103 on April 07, 2011, 12:40 PM »
Didn't know about this Flint Blade however. The only Tapatar player I'm familiar with is a gent by the name of Michael Bianco. There's a video of him here playing something a little more up my alley than most stuff that gets performed on stick-type 'tap' instruments.

From what I understand, Michael Bianco designed the Tapatar...and Flint Blade was one of his students.
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Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by app103 on April 07, 2011, 09:22 AM »
Going from 3 strings, to 14...

two-handed tapping technique on a 14 string double-neck Tapatar guitar:



My dad, the jazz nut, doesn't really care for Flint Blade, but I do. I think I enjoy watching him almost as much as listening. He has more videos uploaded, so if you like this one, check out some of his others.
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Keep in mind that there is another practice used by tech companies that involves a completely different kind of patent trolling than you are used to hearing about. Or maybe you are hearing about it but don't really know what is going on behind the scenes.

Usually it is done by the big guys but more and more the little guys are starting to do it too, especially if they have a great marketing department that can generate a lot of interest in their products.

It goes like this:

People at the company that are employed to check for patents on the technology they are about to develop come across a number of existing patents. Instead of informing their developers of the technology that a prior patent exists and they have to do it a different way than originally described, they are given a copy of the patent and they comb the description looking for ways to improve their product, by copying any useful feature mentioned in the patent.

Sometimes the process involves their idea people combing through patents looking for things they could use, to snap together, to create a killer product. They start with a blank slate and let the patents do half the thinking for them.

Normally they would need to contact the patent owners and work out a licensing agreement, which would involve paying the patent owner money.

But instead, the company fails to contact the patent owner, fails to pay any licensing fees, and lets the patent owner come after them. They figure they will have a good 2 years before that happens and they are forced to start paying.

Before it ever gets to court, they settle out of court and enter a license agreement with the patent owner and it never goes to trial.

Final cost for the company is actually less than 2 years of licensing fees they would normally have had to pay if they did things the right way.
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I have found it best to use different profiles for different purposes. You don't need Firebug or other web development related add-ons for normal surfing, so putting them in their own profile can go far to speeding up your profile used for normal surfing.

I currently have 7 that are on the list installed into my regular profile. I would have had more but I got rid of them awhile back to speed things up. Will I remove any of those 7? No, not likely.
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Living Room / Re: Please kill me now - just bought an iPad off of eBay
« Last post by app103 on April 04, 2011, 04:10 AM »
The only people that will see me using the iPad will assume I'm playing with an Etch A Sketch, such is their amazing grasp of technology.

They make iPad cases like that.

etchasketchipadcase_3.jpg
http://www.wired.com...-a-sketch-ipad-case/
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Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by app103 on April 04, 2011, 02:47 AM »
It's friday.

(Rebecca Black, Friday -- this song is making the rounds for being ridiculously bad but i honestly like the pureness of it)

I prefer the "Bob Dylan" version.  ;D



They all pale in comparison to the brilliant version by Stephen Colbert and Jimmy Fallon (and The Roots). :D
http://www.hulu.com/...riday-with-the-roots

- Oshyan

Took me 2 hours to get my daughter to shut off her music so I could watch that video...worth the wait.

And this is something I came across the other day:

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 04, 2011, 02:02 AM »
Ahem... Look at the installer screenshot that you uploaded. You cannot just click next. You MUST explicitly accept or decline the offer. Again, a baseless accusation with clear evidence to the contrary.
This is a nice thing about OpenCandy, and I do hope they won't change away from that practice. But before you get to that screen, OpenCandy has run - and it's contacted the mothership, right? So you're not getting a chance to avoid that, except for... clicking through... the EULA :)

A little misleading...they did change their practice back in September 2010 and blamed it in part on greedy developers wanting more money and demanding an opt-out option.

It is up to the individual developer to set whether it is opt-in or opt-out, depending in part on the software they choose to recommend (some won't allow opt-out). I believe Renegade hasn't made a choice and that is why one has to click one choice or the other and no default is selected for the apps he is recommending through OC. Other developers using OC may not be as nice, choosing only those apps that allow the opt-out option, so accidental unwanted installs are still possible with OC.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 03, 2011, 05:27 PM »
Just curious, app103, did you install the latest Photo Resizer from Renegade?
I have all his other releases as well.

Personally I have probably 50 programs that can resize, all with their own uniqueness.
But I'm I download junkie.

I'm not asking to be controversial or make a point.
Just wondering if the current OC process would stop you from a download you want.

Peace!

No, I haven't tried it. Don't have a need for it. I am pretty well over covered for image resizing.

However, I do have CDBurner XP on one of my other machines and really should update it, except that the latest version has OC, so I will probably uninstall it and replace it with something else.

And I had recently considered trying SUPER, but once I found out that has OC I changed my mind.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 03, 2011, 07:23 AM »
I never claimed it was PII, and in most of the definitions of spyware that I provided earlier, there is no mention of PII...only mention of spying, collecting information the user doesn't know is going on.

Let's talk about YOUR software for a minute, and how the information gathered by OC is related to it...and what is and isn't spying on a user...

If your software checks for updates and informs the user that one is available, who benefits from any exchange of information related to finding out, that takes place? Does the user directly benefit in any way? Do you benefit in any way? Does it allow you to deliver bug fixes that correct issues that could have a negative effect on the user's experience? Does some unrelated 3rd party benefit the most? Does knowing a new version of the software being available and giving them the opportunity to download it have any possibility of enhancing their enjoyment of your software?

Does the info about how long a user stared at the recommendation screen benefit the user directly in any way? Does it have anything to do with your software they intended to install and their enjoyment of it? Does it help you improve your software? Is it necessary for a 3rd party to know this info for your software to function properly?

How long the recommendation screen was viewable on my computer isn't anybody's business but my own, even when it is collected without PII. When it is collected without my knowledge or consent it's an invasion of my privacy, it's spying. How I choose to launch my software is also my business, whether I do it from some 3rd party download manager that ended up launched on my computer because of OC or I use FARR or the Start Menu, or a desktop shortcut, or if I open the program folder and drag the exe file to my taskbar to make a shortcut. No matter what way I choose to launch it, it's my business...not yours, OC's, or anybody else's. Any attempt to gain access to how I do it, without my knowledge or consent, is spying on me.

Just look at the Samsung keylogger fiasco. THAT is what really pisses me off. They're alarmists and they do more harm than good in a lot of cases. Thank god they're not in pest control. They'd be fumigating houses with people in them.

So an irresponsible idiot of a writer for a reputable IT site that should have known better, jumped the gun and accused Samsung without checking his facts, based on a false positive, and you are going to get back at the both of them by adding OC to your installers? That makes no sense.

And it doesn't make OC run by saintly angels, either.

I told you, I don't trust them. They keep doing sneaky stuff, getting caught, changing things, getting caught, changing more, go back on their word, blame software authors for the changes...the same crap they did when they were at DivX.

Don't you know...you greedy developers twisted their arm and made them add an opt-out option, even though they are so very ethically opposed to that because they know it creates situations where people end up installing unwanted software.

It was because you greedy developers wanted users to install stuff they didn't want, so you could make more money from it. It's all your fault and had absolutely nothing to do with OC wanting to make more money, because they are the nice benevolent company that only exists to help poor little developers make money. All the VC's that invested big money in them didn't do it for the even bigger profits they hoped to gain, and their desire to make big profits and whatever pressure they put on OC had nothing to do with the changes...that VC money was all a big donation to help freeware and open source authors.

Oh how sweet of them to assign each computer a unique ID, building a profile of what each user accepted, installed, declined, uninstalled, etc, without the user's knowledge or consent, which they blamed on a bug when they got caught and had to change it. And the use of the registry entries like permanent cookies...till they got caught and had to change it.

What are they going to get caught doing next? And are they going to blame you again when it happens?

It's no secret that I have financial problems, no secret that my family is less than a paycheck away from disaster. I am scrambling to make as much money any way I can. I have even thought about using OC...but every time I do, I get sick to my stomach, feeling like I would be a sell-out, selling my users to a bunch of slimeballs, for a few cents each. No matter how tempting it is and how bad I need the money, I just can't bring myself to do it.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 03, 2011, 04:36 AM »
I think your smoking gun didn't show all the smoke...but a trip to the OC site did show they collect more information than your smoking gun showed.

Q: What information does OpenCandy collect during installation of an installer powered by OpenCandy?

A: First and foremost, we do NOT collect any personally identifiable information. Nor do we store IP addresses.

We collect the following NON-personally identifiable information for aggregate statistical purposes:
A) Operating system version and language, country location and timezone of the computer running the installer, and the language of the developer’s software installer
B) That the developer’s installer was initiated, and whether it was completed or canceled
C) Whether a third-party recommendation was made and if so, whether it was accepted or declined
D) If a third-party recommendation was accepted, whether the recommended software’s installer has been downloaded and the installer initiated
E) That the recommended third-party installer was initiated, and whether it was completed or canceled.

For more information about what “personally identifiable information” or “PII” is, see this Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia....tifiable_information

For additional details about information collection, please see What Information Does OpenCandy Collect?.

They also collect other information:

The number of times the user hit the “Next” button in the installer without making an accept or decline select for the recommendation. This information is used as a feedback measurement for the clearness and transparency of the recommendation screen.

The amount of time, in second, that the user spent on the recommendation screen.

Now that is information I never expected to be collected when I install software...kind of like looking over my shoulder with a stopwatch.  :huh:

The amount of time, in seconds, that it took to download the software.

Indicates if the user launched the installed software by way of the “Launch” button in the download manager.


Nope, haven't changed my mind...I still consider it spyware. And all those definitions I provided before was to give you a list of the ways spyware is defined, not just the definition source that OC or you prefer.

And as far as adware goes, OC does admit to being adware by the common definition of the word.

Outside of the anti-virus and anti-malware industry adware is broadly defined as any software that displays advertising of any form. As OpenCandy is an advertising platform, which software developers use to make software recommendations in their installers, this definition covers OpenCandy as it does most downloaded software: Skype, AVG Anti-Virus, avast! Antivirus, and Adobe Flash (which advertise products like Google Chrome in their installers).


I think it all comes down to where somebody's personal interests lie.

As Machiavelli so accurately pointed out, the best way to understand motivation is to "follow the money."

Those who stand to financially benefit from something like Open Candy will tend to see this product/service (or whatever) in a positive light, and accept OC's definitions and arguments as valid.

Many of those who don't have a financial interest in going along with OC's view of the universe will tend to be much more skeptical of OC's claims, and less likely to be convinced by the arguments and assurances being given.

In the end, it's mostly a matter of how one's bread gets buttered. And by whom.

Like the Tom Gray song says: "Money changes everything."  :)

I couldn't agree more!  :Thmbsup:




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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 02, 2011, 11:45 PM »
^ So... I take it adobe flash is spyware?  How about iTunes?  Or Java?  I could keep naming software- there's quite a few pieces of software that do the same in a benign way, then after the fact inform you that they did and would you like to install this update or that update.  Microsoft used to do it with Windows update.  Websites do it without ever telling you.

Bingo!

Yes, but you're far from the only person using OpenCandy, and now that I know what it looks like I realize it's been used in lots of software I've installed recently. I would have liked to know so I could learn more and make a more informed decision. Lack of full disclosure by software authors is my remaining concern.

Looks like a user that didn't give informed consent for the information that was collected and sent back to OC.

So... I use other DLLs from third-parties in my software sometimes; does that mean that I need to inform you so that you can be made aware of exactly what software I'm using?  Where does it end?

Do those 3rd party DLLs collect user information and send it out to someone over the internet? If they do, then you should inform the user and get his permission before any information is collected.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by app103 on April 02, 2011, 11:03 PM »
It's not defamation unless it is false. I believe my statement to be true.

Spyware:

spyware (computer software that obtains information from a user's computer without the user's knowledge or consent)

What percentage of users installing software from an OC powered installer gave their informed consent and know that information will be sent back to OC, even if they refuse the recommendation?

spyware

   1. (Internet) programs that surreptitiously monitor and report the actions of a computer user.

That describes exactly what OC does.

Spyware: Computer programs that typically track your use and report this information to a remote location. The more malicious spyware programs may capture and report keystrokes, revealing passwords and personal information. Users are often tricked into installing spyware programs without their knowledge. Spyware is sometimes referred to as adware.

Emphasis mine. And that is exactly what OC does. It doesn't have to do the rest to be spyware.

Spyware Software that uses an internet connection without the permission of its owner, in order to 'listen' to confidential data and transmit them to third parties

What percentage of users installing software from an OC powered installer gave their informed consent and know that information will be sent back to OC, even if they refuse the recommendation?

The Anti-Spyware Coalition (ASC) defines "spyware and other potentially unwanted technologies as technologies deployed without appropriate user consent and/or implemented in ways that impair user control over:

- Material changes that affect their user experience, privacy or system security;

- Use of their system resources, including what programs are installed on their computers; and/or

- Collection, use and distribution of their personal or other sensitive information."

See: Recognizing Spyware

If it is phoning home with info about a user, without their informed consent, it has done this and is spyware. OC is spyware.

Spyware
Software that gathers user information through the user’s Internet connection without his or her knowledge, usually for advertising purposes.  Spyware applications are typically bundled as a hidden component of freeware or shareware programs that can be downloaded from the Internet.  Not all shareware and freeware applications come with spyware.  Once installed, the spyware monitors user activity on the Internet and transmits that information in the background to someone else.  Spyware can also gather information about e-mail addresses and even passwords and credit card numbers.

Emphasis mine, because that is exactly what OC does. What percentage of users installing software from an OC powered installer gave their informed consent and know that information will be sent back to OC, even if they refuse the recommendation?

Spyware
Spyware is software that literally spies on the activities of the user of the computer where it is installed. All possible personal data is gathered and then sent to the author of the Spyware.

The author is OC and information is sent back to OC.

While the term spyware suggests software that secretly monitors the user's behavior, the functions of spyware extend well beyond simple monitoring. Spyware programs can collect various types of personal information, such as Internet surfing habits and sites that have been visited, but can also interfere with user control of the computer in other ways, such as installing additional software and redirecting Web browser activity. Spyware is known to change computer settings, resulting in slow connection speeds, different home pages, and/or loss of Internet or functionality of other programs. In an attempt to increase the understanding of spyware, a more formal classification of its included software types is captured under the term privacy-invasive software.”

That’s certainly not anything that OpenCandy enables or would EVER take part in! (I wouldn’t work for a company that did… I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night.)

OpenCandy’s Analytics

This is probably a good time to address the analytics side of the OpenCandy network. The analytics that we provide back to our publishers (those who recommend other software using OpenCandy) includes NON-PERSONALLY identifiable information such as the user’s country, operating system, operating system version, operating system language,  and when the software is installed (and optionally, if it is uninstalled). This information is aggregated in daily intervals and individuals are NOT identifiable (see more below). That’s it.

I love how he essentially contradicted himself there, explains how even though that is what OC does, collecting information,  it's not spyware.

I will ask one more time:

What percentage of users installing software from an OC powered installer gave their informed consent and know that information will be sent back to OC, even if they refuse the recommendation? And do they know what information?

Unless OC is getting informed consent to collect that information, it's spyware, plain and simple.

It doesn't matter if you think the information it is collecting is benign...it is still collecting information without the user's informed consent.

Informed consent is a phrase often used in law to indicate that the consent a person gives meets certain minimum standards. As a literal matter, in the absence of fraud, it is redundant. An informed consent can be said to have been given based upon a clear appreciation and understanding of the facts, implications, and future consequences of an action. In order to give informed consent, the individual concerned must have adequate reasoning faculties and be in possession of all relevant facts at the time consent is given.
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