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Developer's Corner / Bourne / Bash Shell Scripting Resources

« Last post by ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 10:20 PM »

Started to work through:

  Steve's Bourne / Bash shell scripting tutorial



Encountered this associated quote:

Doug Kramer (Java, Google.com) says:
"When I started writing CGI script in Bourne shell on the Java team at Sun, I scoured the Internet for a good tutorial and used Steve Parker's guide, which I really like. Now that I've moved to Google and switched to Linux and bash, I've decided to use it as the basis for an in-house introductory course on bash scripting here at Google for our tech writers. I highly recommend it as accurate and written at the right level, plus it includes a useful reference"

CGI scripts in Bourne shell?  Doesn't sound terribly pleasant!

Not a huge fan of shell scripting, but figured it couldn't hurt to be able to read / understand existing code.

Any one have any related favorite resources?

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Living Room / Re: What annoys you to no end?

« Last post by ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 08:45 PM »

Programs that HAVE an installer, but don't include an uninstaller.  And, by extension, programs whose uninstallers don't completely uninstall all of the app's files.

-kyrathaba (July 04, 2011, 06:17 PM)

Yes, not happy with either of these.  If practical, much prefer apps which require no installation steps apart from extraction, and correspondingly can be uninstalled with a simple folder deletion.

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands

« Last post by ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 07:18 PM »

WinButtons 3.3.2 and WinButtonEdit 0.9.3.0 (RC10) are now available from the original release post.

-Ath (July 04, 2011, 05:01 PM)

I see version 3.3.1.2 via the Version tab of WinButtons.exe Properties.  FWIW, I do see the included WinButtonEdit.ico.

Perhaps I got the wrong zip file?

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands

« Last post by ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 05:00 PM »

The combination of 'Show Window Border' and 'Show in Taskbar' is kinda 'the culprit', as it then shows a full-size Close button and a System menu.

-Ath (July 04, 2011, 02:57 PM)

Ah, I have tried various options and see.  Thanks for the explanation.

Turning off "Show in Taskbar" seems like a doable work-around in this case.

Thanks.

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Find And Run Robot / Re: User Variable value limit and Timer plugin problem

« Last post by ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 03:33 PM »

Hmm...I wonder if this could be a contributing factor to the Timer plugin issue mentioned at:

  https://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=23406.0

May be it is possible for the Timer plugin to check what the length of the representation of the data is before trying to store the data.

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands

« Last post by ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 06:48 AM »

Hmm...Perhaps there's something in the docs somewhere about this.  Any pointers?  I didn't turn up anything.

FWIW, when I uncheck "Vertical display", though there is less, there is still space to the right of the right-most icon.  May be this is also expected too...

Confused.

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands

« Last post by ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 05:42 AM »

BTW, I'm not quite sure what the conditions are that reproduce the issue, but it happens that under some circumstances, there is a fair bit of blank space to the right of the buttons:



May be it also depends on the icons referenced, but the button width and height may be related:

Code: Text [Select]

1. buttonwidth=32
2. buttonheight=32

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Living Room / Re: What annoys you to no end?

« Last post by ewemoa on July 04, 2011, 03:16 AM »

Late to the party again...

Programs that steal focus! Pure evil! 

-Renegade (May 21, 2010, 06:33 AM)

I agree that this is a terrible thing.

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Living Room / Re: Lots of New Members

« Last post by ewemoa on July 03, 2011, 04:54 PM »

Wonderful sp_______m, wonderful sp________m, etc. ?

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands

« Last post by ewemoa on July 03, 2011, 03:38 PM »

Perhaps not ideal, but I came across:

  http://www.autohotkey.net/~Lexikos/MI/MI.ahk
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5955288/extract-all-icons-from-an-exe-without-using-extracticonex
  http://www.autoitscript.com/forum/topic/97775-privateextracticon-replacement/

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Living Room / Re: nearby lightning skrike kills neighbours computers (and mine)

« Last post by ewemoa on July 03, 2011, 05:45 AM »

Please forgive the following quote...some posts in this topic remind me of:

[Vizzini has just cut the rope The Dread Pirate Roberts is climbing up]
Vizzini: HE DIDN'T FALL? INCONCEIVABLE.
Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Surely troublesome to receive such pricey equipment that doesn't work out-of-the-box, my condolences.

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands

« Last post by ewemoa on July 03, 2011, 05:38 AM »

During the selection of the Icon, there's a button to the right/top of the dialog to switch 'by Name'/'by Ordinal'. Does switching that help?

-Ath (July 03, 2011, 04:31 AM)

Yes!  This seems much better -- worked with Video2MP3.exe and WinButtons.exe.  Perhaps 'by Ordinal' isn't a bad default

Most of the time, index 0 displays the default icon of an exe, so if you omit the index WB applies 0 by default.

-Ath

Thanks for the info.

Regarding Video2MP3, I get it via:

  http://skwire.dcmembers.com/wb/pages/software/video-2-mp3.php

FWIW, when I use NirSoft's IconExtract, I see 5 sizes for the icon extractable from Video2MP3.exe (16x16, 32x32, 48x48, 64x64, and 128x128).  In WBE / WB I end up seeing one of the smaller ones displayed as near as I can tell.

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Finished Programs / Re: Release: WinButtons 3.3.1 and WinButtonEdit 0.9.2.3 (RC9)

« Last post by ewemoa on July 02, 2011, 06:56 PM »

Showing an icon in WBE preview but not when running WB: Undetermined, the same code is 'included' for both exe's. Was the .wbuc/.ini file saved?

-Ath (July 02, 2011, 02:11 PM)

I didn't reproduce the issue with the latest version -- I admit it's possible there was some pilot error originally

Would be nice if scaling worked: Scaling is not directly supported for button-images, investigation continues

-Ath

Thanks for your continued efforts, and good luck!

any chance of supporting specification of icon from .exe?: Implemented in this release

-Ath

I have good news and bad news...

The good news is that it seemed to work for the likes of shell32.dll.  Hurray

The bad news is that it didn't seem to work for Video2MP3.exe.  I was able to bring up the icon selection dialog for Video2MP3.exe, saw the desired icon, clicked on the select button, but didn't end up seeing the icon in the preview (just blank).  I clicked on the Apply button, saved, and restarted WBE, but no change.  Also tried WB but still saw a blank button.

Also tested by specifying via the file WinButtons.exe as a source of icons with similar unsuccessful results.

Sample .wbuc file content that appears to reproduce the issue is below.

Code: Text [Select]

1. [Settings]
2. left=-1
3. top=-1
4. closebutton=1
5. border=1
6. taskbar=1
7. vertical=1
8. [Buttons]
9. button1=New Button 1
10. command1=-sub -?
11. caption1=New Button 1
12. image1=WinButtons.exe,-1

In the image1= line, tried changing -1 to 1 and subsequently did see an icon, btw.

Using WBE's .exe as a source of icons, icons show up in the preview when specifying -4, -3, 0, 1 but not for -1.  The icons that shows up for 0 and 1 look similar, FWIW.

XP SP3 WB 3.3.1.2 WBE 0.9.2.3

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General Software Discussion / Re: Anyone here using TMUX over GNU Screen?

« Last post by ewemoa on June 29, 2011, 04:55 AM »

Also found an intro to tmux in the Hitchhiker's Guide to OpenBSD -- specifically, in the Keyboard and Display Controls section lives:

  7.9 - What is tmux(1)?

It currently contains the following portions:

• What is tmux?
• How do I use tmux?
• Configuring tmux
• Advanced tmux usage

Note about info processing...

Am finding the (proper and significantly smaller) subset coverage of the various pages mentioned in this topic to be useful -- reading these bits and then returning to the man page feels easier than digesting the man page alone.  Of course, interacting with tmux itself is helpful too!

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General Software Discussion / Re: Anyone here using TMUX over GNU Screen?

« Last post by ewemoa on June 28, 2011, 06:06 AM »

The following appears to be an OS X vim user's writeup of their tmux use:

  A Tmux Crash Course

I’ve been using Tmux for about six months now and it has become just as essential to my workflow as vim. Pane and window management, copy-mode for navigating output, and session management make it a no-brainer for those who live in the terminal (and especially vim).

It is split up into small sections:

• Session Management
• Windows
• Panes
• Helpful Tmux commands
• Must-haves
• Workflow

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General Software Discussion / Re: Anyone here using TMUX over GNU Screen?

« Last post by ewemoa on June 28, 2011, 04:08 AM »

TMUX – The Terminal Multiplexer by Cody
http://blog.hawkhost...erminal-multiplexer/

-zridling (June 20, 2011, 05:19 AM)

Has Cody been up to some tricks elsewhere?

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands

« Last post by ewemoa on June 27, 2011, 01:59 AM »

Using image specified in .wbuc file with .ico file in same directory as WB and WBE exes, the image of the .ico is displayed in preview of WBE, but not when using .wbuc file from WB.

-ewemoa (June 26, 2011, 06:59 PM)

Did you place the .ico file to the same directory as where the .wbuc file is?

-Ath (June 27, 2011, 01:22 AM)

Sorry if this was unclear.  WB, WBE, the .wbuc file, and the .ico file all live in the same directory.  Is that clearer?

Good luck with your investigation regarding the scaling and thanks for considering the exe / icon feature request

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Finished Programs / Re: DONE: On Screen Button That Sends Keyboard Commands

« Last post by ewemoa on June 26, 2011, 06:59 PM »

XP SP3 WB 3.3.0.0 WBE 0.9.1.1

Using image specified in .wbuc file with .ico file in same directory as WB and WBE exes, the image of the .ico is displayed in preview of WBE, but not when using .wbuc file from WB.

Code: Text [Select]

1. [Settings]
2. left=-1
3. top=-1
4. closebutton=1
5. border=1
6. taskbar=1
7. vertical=1
8. [Buttons]
9. button1=New Button 1
10. command1=-sub -?
11. caption1=New Button 1
12. image1=Video2MP3.ico

On a related note, noticed that image of .ico doesn't appear to get scaled appropriately.  Specific case was .ico extracted from Video2MP3.exe -- 128x128 button size shows whole image, but smaller sizes tried (e.g. 48x48) show a portion of the image.  Would be nice if scaling worked

Also, any chance of supporting specification of icon from .exe?

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Some shortcut keys don't work anymore.

« Last post by ewemoa on June 26, 2011, 06:01 PM »

Thanks for the reminder

Own updated preference summary is now:

• Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right - navigate to closest left / right "beginning of word" boundary
• Ctrl+Shift+Left / Ctrl+Shift+Right - select from initial cursor position to closest left / right "beginning of word" AND navigate to the corresponding spot that Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right would
• Ctrl+Backspace / Ctrl+Delete - removal of text between initial cursor position and closest left / right "beginning of word" boundary
• Alt+Left / Alt+Right - previous / documented behavior

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Living Room / Re: Cody - The 3d model

« Last post by ewemoa on June 26, 2011, 05:26 PM »

Nice one 

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Some shortcut keys don't work anymore.

« Last post by ewemoa on June 26, 2011, 05:25 PM »

Just to clarify, this is from the farr help file:

Ctrl+Left or Alt+Left, Ctrl+Backspace
 Delete last word (or subdir) in search edit box
 
Tab or Ctrl+Right or Alt+Right
 Autocomplete subdirectory in search edit box

-Armando (June 26, 2011, 01:25 PM)

Aha, in Advanced Use -> Hotkey and Shortcut Summary!  Thanks for pointing this out

My updated preference / vote:

• Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right should navigate to previous / next beginning of word boundaries
• Alt+Left / Alt+Right -- previous behavior / documented behavior (I don't think there's some common behavior in other apps for these)
• Cttrl+Backspace / Ctrl+Delete should delete to previous / next beginning of word boundaries

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Find And Run Robot / Re: Some shortcut keys don't work anymore.

« Last post by ewemoa on June 26, 2011, 03:56 AM »

- Ctrl+Left or Alt+Left, Ctrl+Right or Alt+Right, to either delete last word/subdir OR  autocomplete, doesn't work anymore

-Armando (June 25, 2011, 05:07 PM)

Hmmm...I thought Ctrl+Left / Ctrl+Right were for move cursor to beginning of previous word / next word.  That's what I'd expect, though I'm not sure what they used to do.

I'm not sure what Alt+Left and Alt+Right did previously.  FWIW, these don't seem to do anything for me in Notepad or Wordpad.  In Internet Explorer's location field, they seem to lead to the backward / forward page behavior.

- Also, Ctrl+Shift+Left Ctrl+Shift+Right, for word selection don't work either.

-Armando

Confirmed here that they don't work for selection -- just lead to motion.  My expectation for them would be to select what would be deleted by Ctrl+Backspace / Ctrl+Delete respectively.

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Developer's Corner / cygwin command line arguments and apt-cyg

« Last post by ewemoa on June 24, 2011, 11:18 PM »

Trying to automate cygwin + related package installation and noticed that recent versions of cygwin's setup.exe appear to support command line arguments:

Command Line Options:
 -A --disable-buggy-antivirus           Disable known or suspected buggy antivirus software packages during execution.
 -C --categories                        Specify entire categories to install
 -D --download                          Download from internet
 -d --no-desktop                        Disable creation of desktop shortcut
 -h --help                              print help
 -K --pubkey                            URL of extra public key file (gpg format)
 -L --local-install                     Install from local directory
-l --local-package-dir                 Local package directory
-n --no-shortcuts                      Disable creation of desktop and start menu shortcuts
 -N --no-startmenu                      Disable creation of start menu shortcut
 -O --only-site                         Ignore all sites except for -s
-P --packages                          Specify packages to install
 -p --proxy                             HTTP/FTP proxy (host:port)
-q --quiet-mode                        Unattended setup mode
 -r --no-replaceonreboot                Disable replacing in-use files on next reboot.
-R --root                              Root installation directory
 -S --sexpr-pubkey                      Extra public key in s-expr format
-s --site                              Download site
 -U --keep-untrusted-keys               Use untrusted keys and retain all
 -u --untrusted-keys                    Use untrusted keys from last-extrakeys
 -X --no-verify                         Don't verify setup.ini signatures

from:

  http://cygwin.com/faq-nochunks.html#faq.setup.cli

Also came across apt-cyg:

apt-cyg is a command-line installer for Cygwin which cooperates with Cygwin Setup and uses the same repository. The syntax is similar to apt-get. Usage examples:

    "apt-cyg install <package names>" to install packages
    "apt-cyg remove <package names>" to remove packages
...

from:

  http://code.google.com/p/apt-cyg/

apt-cyg seems to need wget, bzip2, tar, and gawk to function and appears to be a bash script so installed cygwin first via cmd.exe with:

[Select]

setup.exe -q -n -R C:\apps\cygwin -l C:\apps\cygwin -s ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/cygwin/ -P wget,bzip2,tar,gawk,subversion

no luck with long options

At least not via cmd.exe.

Didn't succeed in finding a way to remove packages via setup.exe's command line arguments, but apt-cyg has a 'remove' option

Tested with setup.exe 1.7.9-1 and apt-cyg 0.57 (obtained from svn).

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General Software Discussion / Re: Universal Extractor

« Last post by ewemoa on June 24, 2011, 03:24 AM »

A bit of a digression, but I had some luck extracting a portableapps installer using 7-Zip.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Universal Extractor

« Last post by ewemoa on June 22, 2011, 11:05 PM »

Echoing the voices of praise here 

It has nearly always worked for me (sometimes after updating innounp.exe), but lately I noticed that for some portableapps installers it doesn't work (at least not with the default method).  Has any one had any luck on that front?

XP SP3 with Universal Extractor 1.6.1.