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IainB, your insight and comments have been invaluable. You have absolutely nothing to reproach yourself, you are entitled to your opinion. I agree that the concept of a digital Zettelkasten is more applicable to academia, and also to authoring. In today's world a Zettelkasten is more likely to be a component of a complete PIM/KM system like you have. I also use OneNote as my PIM/KM system, but am always interested to see others' applications & opinions. Anyway, good to be able to spar constructively  :Thmbsup:

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2. Uses for OneNote: Certainly, as you suggest, my use of OneNote is for more than just as a Zettelkasten (card index) and always has been. I mean, of what use would a card index be to anyone in this day and age?

Thanks for your reply IainB, I understand your thinking. I would like to make 1 point: there are quite a few people out there who use a digital Zettelkasten purely as a card index system only. There are even some apps designed for that purpose only, notably (but not confined to) Daniel Luedecke's ZKN3 app.
I agree with you that OneNote is designed as an integrated PIM & KM, it seems to me that the author of that OneNote-Zettelkasten article uses as such and wanted to give it a try as a Zettelkasten too, because in the intro he says:
Much to my surprise OneNote surpassed my expectations, so a next step I wanted to take was to give OneNote a try as a Zettelkasten app too.

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Here is one implementation of the Zettelkasten method using OneNote:
OneNote Review • Zettelkasten Method
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Yes, there's probably very little new under the sun. There may even be thousands of us who have spent years experimenting with OneNote as a Zettelkasten without broadcasting the fact.
The one that you link to is very interesting, though it is a "purist" approach - i.e., does not conform to my singularly expanded working definition of "information" (data types). That is why I deliberately called the OneNote approach that I tooK Microsoft OneNote - how to make it your 21st century Zettelkasten PIM.
However, what makes me scratch my head a bit is the use of a formal numbering/indexing system - which would seem to be redundant in the experiment I undertook with its more recently-discovered "mandatory requirements".

Can you explain what you mean by my singularly expanded working definition of "information"? Do you mean that you use OneNote for more than just as a Zettelkasten? The author of the post seems to have focused his article to the use as a Zettelkasten, but does not rule out other uses too, in fact 1 of the screenshots shows other types of notebooks.
Also, how/why is a numbering system redundant in a Zettelkasten use?

It seems to me that the author's Zettelkasten notebook is for specific types notes, whereas you seem to collectively call any and all your notes stored in OneNote a Zettelkasten. Am I right?

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Have a look at this post: OneNote Review, which talks about the use of OneNote as a Zettelkasten.
Update 2015-12-17: sorry I just noticed that above this there is Dr Andus' reference to the OneNote article. My apologies.

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