Windows Networking, help me understand.

[40hz]

If you say it one more time I might shoot you!

-J-Mac (October 21, 2013, 11:40 PM)

I won't shoot you but I may chip in for ammo.

-Vurbal (October 22, 2013, 04:21 AM)

There's just so much love in the room..

 

-Stoic Joker (October 22, 2013, 06:42 AM)

Well...I just dissed homegroups a little in my OP.

I never said anything about shooting anybody.

Truth is, if homegroup works for  you, so be it. My real objection is over the (to my mind) odd and half-assed way it was implemented. But that's me.

Wana get me really snarly? Talk about the way AD or policy objects were implemented.
 

[Stoic Joker]

Well...I just dissed homegroups a little in my OP.

I never said anything about shooting anybody.

Truth is, if homegroup works for  you, so be it. My real objection is over the (to my mind) odd and half-assed way it was implemented. But that's me.

-40hz (October 22, 2013, 08:22 AM)

I know. I was just having a bit of fun tossing out a setup line to see who'd run with it (you were supposed to yell at me btw (hehe)).

I can't stand the damn things either, I run a domain on my home network. But I do try to allow for the possibility of there being a right environment for things of that nature. I'd wager that you think they suck for the same reasons I do ... The granular control we're used to just isn't there to afford us a comfort zone. But if mom, dad, and the kids want to toss a few files back and forth it's a workable solution that only require following a few - hand holding wizard driven - steps. So it's not a bad solution...for them. 

[40hz]

I know. I was just having a bit of fun tossing out a setup line to see who'd run with it (you were supposed to yell at me btw (hehe)).

-Stoic Joker (October 22, 2013, 11:38 AM)

Not me. You know your stuff. Any differences we have on tech are probably a matter of differences in personal prefs and IT administrative style.

[40hz]

I can't stand the damn things either, I run a domain on my home network. But I do try to allow for the possibility of there being a right environment for things of that nature. I'd wager that you think they suck for the same reasons I do ... The granular control we're used to just isn't there to afford us a comfort zone. But if mom, dad, and the kids want to toss a few files back and forth it's a workable solution that only require following a few - hand holding wizard driven - steps. So it's not a bad solution...for them.  

-Stoic Joker (October 22, 2013, 11:38 AM)

That's about it. I don't like wizards because thy tend to toss the baby with the bath water - and then you never learn anything because it's all FM.

But that's only because I occasionally forget I do this for a living, so I can easily justify putting the time in, whereas somebody who has a "real job" (or just wants to get something done) couldn't care less how this stuff actually works. And probably rightly so.

I won't argue since I can use the weak job security deliberate ignorance on the part of the client provides me with.

[mwb1100]

Planning to do that tonight when I get back upstairs.

-J-Mac (October 21, 2013, 12:44 PM)

Naturally Windows 7 defaults to that when you first set up a network.

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-J-Mac (October 21, 2013, 11:40 PM)

I'm not sure if you ever got your networking problem resolved - was the problem Win7 having "HomeGroup" set up as the default?

[J-Mac]

Planning to do that tonight when I get back upstairs.

-J-Mac (October 21, 2013, 12:44 PM)

Naturally Windows 7 defaults to that when you first set up a network.

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-J-Mac (October 21, 2013, 11:40 PM)

I'm not sure if you ever got your networking problem resolved - was the problem Win7 having "HomeGroup" set up as the default?

-mwb1100 (October 24, 2013, 05:11 PM)

Yikes! Actually my first home network on Windows 7 did default to HomeGroup - Windows 7 does that unless you specifically configure it otherwise. In XP and earler versions I had always declined the "Simple File Sharing" choosing instead to set it up manually. And HomeGroup appears to be nothing more than a little polishing up of the old "Simple File Sharing" concept.

But I immediately discovered HomeGroup's limitations the first time I used it and - after doing a bit of web searching and article-reading on Windows 7 networks - I changed the configuration to Advanced Sharing. Unfortunately I haven't been able to obtain the same level of access that I did achieve on XP.   

BTW, I haven't yet looked at the user setups on my wife's machine... I have to do that - as well as ANY kind of maintenance - when she is not wanting to actually use her machine! If I go near it when she is in the office she gets a little... well... ornery.     (Naturally I sometimes do this intentionally, but I have to be prepared, have an escape route planned or at least a couple of my kids to hide behind... Hey - I want to live!!)   

Thanks!

Jim