Author Topic: Must-have apps in the System tray? (Read 159086 times)

Curt · « **Reply #100 on:** April 22, 2007, 12:11 PM »

....clicking on trimall or trimws doesn't make anything happen.
-dantheman (April 22, 2007, 10:25 AM)

The work of trimall is not visible, but on my XP the use of RAM is immediate lowered with 10-20%, and in a second trimall will close again, when the job is done. There is nothing to actually see. Please check how much free RAM you have, right before and after clicking trimall, and tell us the result.

Curt · « **Reply #101 on:** April 22, 2007, 01:04 PM »

Screenshots of trimall effect:

Right before (73.2%):

Right after (60.2%):

The effect may grow if you have very little RAM free. Normally I wouldn't try to free any RAM when there is 26.8% free, but in this case I did it for the picture.

f0dder · « **Reply #102 on:** April 22, 2007, 04:08 PM »

I guess I should have added a MessageBox that says "done trimming"

Curt · « **Reply #103 on:** April 22, 2007, 04:43 PM »

Back to the subject, at least for a short comment:

Some have implied that I have a lot of programs running in the 'TNA' (: system tray), but if I close EVEREST it really isn't that many, I think:

Must-have apps in the System tray?

- and, I may add, not one of these are heavy on RAM or CPU usage

lanux128 · « **Reply #104 on:** April 22, 2007, 09:34 PM »

I've downloaded it, unzipped it into it's own folded but clicking on trimall or trimws doesn't make anything happen.
-dantheman (April 22, 2007, 10:25 AM)

you can run the program i mentioned here and then run trimall.

btw, good work f0dder!

your neat CLI tool has trimmed about 12-20% of my system RAM.. just cool..

CleverCat · « **Reply #105 on:** April 23, 2007, 01:57 AM »

... my XP sounds have gone South!
-CleverCat (April 22, 2007, 08:42 AM)

Start by checking the obvious: Control Panel > Sounds & Sound Units ...

-Curt (April 22, 2007, 10:09 AM)

It's only the Keyboard Sticky Key Sounds that don't work - all other XP sound is ok. Someone gave me an AHK file but the sticky key sounds still don't work with that! This happened before I got my cordless Key Board/Mouse.

dantheman · « **Reply #106 on:** April 23, 2007, 04:46 AM »

I've downloaded it, unzipped it into it's own folded but clicking on trimall or trimws doesn't make anything happen.
-dantheman (April 22, 2007, 10:25 AM)
you can run the program i mentioned here and then run trimall.

btw, good work f0dder! your neat CLI tool has trimmed about 12-20% of my system RAM.. just cool..
-lanux128 (April 22, 2007, 09:34 PM)

Thanks for the directions guys!
I set up a shortcut to the taskbar and sure enough, it trims the RAM usage.
Next step will be find a way to make it work in "automatic" right?
I loves "manuals" but nowadays you know how it is.

Is this trimall supposed to work on the virtual memory too?

TomD101 · « **Reply #107 on:** April 24, 2007, 04:37 AM »

Hi all,

my system tray is as clogged as anyone's but there are two (maybe three) apps I want to have there on my free will:
1. Hyperionics HyperSnap de Luxe (screenshot prog, one of the best I ever used)
2. Hyperionics FileBox Extender (freeware, that gives you instant access to pre-defined folders without going through the directory tree. Same works from almost every file open dialogue out of any application. Gives access to recently opened folders also)
3. Webshots (screensaver prog with access to tons of beautiful pics at no cost and the ability to include your own pics - its the online pics that make it just great)

Some other apps have to be there like anti virus and firewall software. But these three are my favorites to work with.

Thomas
Germany

Curt · « **Reply #108 on:** April 24, 2007, 04:51 AM »

Herzlich willkommen, Thomas!

3. Webshots (screensaver prog ... [ Invalid Attachment ]

-TomD101 (April 24, 2007, 04:37 AM)

Did you change the Webshots icon - because at my PC Webshots is looking like this:

CleverCat · « **Reply #109 on:** April 24, 2007, 05:58 AM »

Herzlich willkommen, Thomas!

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-TomD101 (April 24, 2007, 04:37 AM)

Did you change the Webshots icon - because at my PC Webshots is looking like this:

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-Curt (April 24, 2007, 04:51 AM)

Mine too.....

Curt · « **Reply #110 on:** April 26, 2007, 03:03 PM »

..., M8 Free Clipboard, ...
-Curt (April 16, 2007, 12:46 PM)
... M8 Free Clipboard, but looking at its Web site, it looks pretty limited in comparison with some of the other free clipboard extenders. ...
-rjbull (April 18, 2007, 06:12 AM)

The homepage of M8 is a little strange, I think: the best / smartest features of the M8 Free Clip are not mentioned! But take a closer look at the options and think about what those buttons will do to a clipboard - Form Filling, Internet Bookmarks, Dial, e-mail, and Run/Open:

[Edit1+Edit2: This is VERY embarrassing to me: Guess what, these links are teasers to get you to buy the $$ version; the Free Clip will not remember these smart links - they will 'roll off' as soon as you add new clips! These features are only teasing. But, as I wrote in another post, I do not want my clipboard to boil my eggs, I just want it to manage the clips, so I never tested the program's memory on this. Big time SORRY! ]

- plus:

Outlook Compatible
One of the features of M8 is that you can paste any screen or graphic directly into the body of an Outlook Express email. With most other programs, you have to save graphics as JPEGs and then attach them.

Clip Editors
M8 has onboard editors for both text and graphic clips. The text editor has text cleanup utilities to remove HTML formating, email indents and hard returns.

I think M8 Free Clip is quite competitive.

dantheman · « **Reply #111 on:** April 26, 2007, 03:38 PM »

I think M8 Free Clip is quite competitive.

And it barely uses up 1,500ks of vm!

Curt · « **Reply #112 on:** April 26, 2007, 05:31 PM »

And it barely uses up 1,500ks of vm!
-dantheman (April 26, 2007, 03:38 PM)

I imagine that "1,500ks" is 1.57 MB, but what is "vm"?
- this "IT-analphabetic Dane" is asking.

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another little feature:

f0dder · « **Reply #113 on:** April 26, 2007, 05:33 PM »

vm size, "working set" - the amount of memory the process uses that windows will try to keep in memory. This includes private as well as shared memory the program uses, so it's not a good indication of how much memory the program really occupies. This is the figure that task manager shows by default.

Curt · « **Reply #114 on:** April 26, 2007, 05:40 PM »

Thanks, f0dder, for the rapid explanation.

My Process Explorer says 4 MB "working set" and 61½ MB "virtual size" right now.

--

The "1.57 MB" was the size of the program in Add/Remove.

f0dder · « **Reply #115 on:** April 26, 2007, 05:48 PM »

Process Explorer

IMHO the most important figure is "Private Bytes" - this is the amount of memory the process has actually allocated that cannot be shared with other processes. So if memory is trimmed, this is how much that'll end up paged out to disk.

Working set is still important though, as it's the memory that "is recently been touched", and thus should be kept in memory. If you look closely at memory stats after running, say, trimws

, you will often see working set size jumping way down, only to rise by 100+ kb after a split second.

Curt · « **Reply #116 on:** April 26, 2007, 05:56 PM »

So I have added "private bytes" to the view. I never understood before what that is...
- thanks for yet another explanation!

And the answer is "5 MB private bytes".

Curt · « **Reply #117 on:** April 27, 2007, 09:17 AM »

DISCLAIMER:

M8 Free Clip features:

This is VERY embarrassing to me: Guess what, these links (Form Filling, Internet Bookmarks, Dial, e-mail, and Run/Open) are teasers to get you to buy the $$ version (M8 Spartan); the Free Clip can not do all this! But, as I wrote in another post, I do not want my clipboard to boil my eggs, I just want it to manage the clips, so I never tested if it really could do all this. And it can't.

Big time SORRY!

Spartan has all the features you would expect, clip preview, sound, keyboard only pasting, automatic web bookmarks, automatic email addressing, form filling, web logon, phone dialing, program launch, and bulk paste. It pastes graphic clips directly into Outlook Express ( You can even have it automatically reduce large photos) and it has onboard editors for both text and graphic clips. It even includes its own built in backup and restore system to keep your clip files safe.

dantheman · « **Reply #118 on:** April 27, 2007, 09:37 AM »

Not a problem Curt!

If the program does what it promises, then that's just fine to me.
I can boil my own eggs.

Curt · « **Reply #119 on:** April 27, 2007, 09:52 AM »

When I'm stressed I'm tending to post too hasty - and I'm stressed right now: For two days we have been serving several hundred people more than usual, at work. Re-reading my "disclaimer" I can now see that becuse of my poor wording, I have yet again given the wrong impression: The M8 Free Clip WILL DO all these tricks! But the author removed the permanent memory part, meaning that these smart links will 'roll off' as soon as you add new clips, and so be almost worthless. Teasing only.

Hope I got it right this time...

dantheman · « **Reply #120 on:** April 27, 2007, 10:16 AM »

When I'm stressed I'm tending to post too hasty - and I'm stressed right now: For two days we have been serving several hundred people more than usual, at work. Re-reading my "disclaimer" I can now see that becuse of my poor wording, I have yet again given the wrong impression: The M8 Free Clip WILL DO all these tricks! But the author removed the permanent memory part, meaning that these smart links will 'roll off' as soon as you add new clips, and so be almost worthless. Teasing only.

Hope I got it right this time...
-Curt (April 27, 2007, 09:52 AM)

Very subtle indication on:
http://m8software.com/

You have to go to this text:
New to Multi-Clipboards? Why not start with our free version?
Click Here For Details

Phew!

Curt · « **Reply #121 on:** April 27, 2007, 11:50 AM »

"Phew!"?? I don't see it this way. The author doesn't pretent to be some kind of philanthropist or hide that he is trying to make a living out of programming. In my mind the problem is that I never cared to check these 'features', because I have no need for them, but only assumed they were fully available in the free version. (But who would ever need the $30 Spartan version then?) My bad it is.

Curt · « **Reply #122 on:** April 27, 2007, 12:33 PM »

All this talk about clipboards, and yet no-one told us to have a look at giveawayoftheday...
yesterday!

Must-have apps in the System tray?

CleverCat · « **Reply #123 on:** April 28, 2007, 07:09 AM »

I'm bookmarked to go there everyday!

Curt · « **Reply #124 on:** April 28, 2007, 07:44 AM »

I'm bookmarked to go there everyday!
-CleverCat (April 28, 2007, 07:09 AM)

It is in fact my starting page... only, I have to start, don't I. And that day I didn't.