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Living Room / Re: IP address on public network
« Last post by Renegade on June 16, 2010, 06:08 AM »
Has there been some update in the last while? I remember reading an article about people using TOR with no encryption and passwords getting lifted. Some government office or embassy was particularly hard hit. I think that was a while back though. Sigh... guess I need to keep up to date more.
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He communicated with them *for 5 days*, and they weren't playing ball, which if you look around is a fairly common story with MS and security researchers, especially smaller/independent ones that don't represent someone like Secunia, Sophos, etc. I'm not saying he's right or MS is wrong, just that it's not so clear cut as you and some others seem to feel. But then I'm completely on the opposite side of the "government secrets" debate too, hehe.

He communicated with them for 5 days... on and off I'm sure, i.e. 5 days elapsed.  So actually 3 days, since they said they last communicated with him on the 7th and he released on the 9th.  On the 7th, they said that they'd know about their release schedule at the end of the week, i.e. the 11th.  Just because they wouldn't give him what he wanted on his terms, i.e. tell me that it's going to be released on my timetable now without even looking at the problem, he released it.  And why release the exploit code in such detail?  Why not release news of the exploit, then if they didn't come to the table if they were indeed not playing ball, he could release the exploit after giving them time?  That's the part that *is* clear cut.  He released the exploit *code* into the wild and someone apparently used *his* code to craft a drive-by.  How is that *ever* right?

iz rite 'cauz M$ windoze iz teh d3v!L

You're perfectly right all the way through.

To figure out a schedule can take time, and a few days isn't a big deal, unless you want to use it as an excuse to be malicious. (Nice for pointing out 3 days there.)

And releasing exploit code? That is very very very far off the beaten path. It's PURELY MALICIOUS and has zero legitimate reasons. Flat out, he wanted to do as much damage as possible. He acted maliciously. In no way can he remotely claim that it was anything to do with security -- it was a simple blackhat, malicious act. Period.

Now, I'm just wondering how long it will be before companies start prosecuting people for releasing exploit code. Because you KNOW that if it were Apple, his house would be raided, he'd be in jail, and there'd be law suits that would have his great-great grandchildren sold into slavery.
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Living Room / Re: IP address on public network
« Last post by Renegade on June 16, 2010, 12:51 AM »
Actually, I think that the more traffic there is on TOR, the better it is. More nodes means higher reliability and faster, while more traffic means more noise to obscure your signal. So no matter what people are using it for, the fact that they are using it makes it better.

Or do you mean that ISPs might decide to murder the baby when they throw out the bath water by banning TOR traffic altogether and blame it on file sharing?
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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by Renegade on June 15, 2010, 08:35 PM »
+1 for 40Hz pointing out the "big budget" remake film not quite doing it.

To me, I think the best example of this, though it isn't a remake, is The Blair Witch project. It shows that a good story with a good script far outdoes any special effects. Special effects make the movie if you're a 14-year old boy, or brain dead. Looking back, sometimes those 2 seem synonymous. Nevertheless, really good scripts can even turn a dumb story into a really good film. I think "Waiting for Godot" is an example of that (though it is a play, and not a film).

La Jetee was pretty cool. That sort of plot has been redone many times, and almost never gets tired. I read that "12 Monkeys" took its inspiration from there (gotta love Gilliam).
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Living Room / Re: Apple Attacks Adobe
« Last post by Renegade on June 15, 2010, 07:54 PM »
http://arstechnica.c...tive-code-change.ars

But the changes still don't address the part that I want... MonoTouch!  What's the problem with MonoTouch?

AMEN! for MonoTouch! (And Mono, and I am still secretly always rooting for Novell!)

While it's all still very much behind Visual Studio, the CLI (or CLS or .NET or Mono -- whatever you want to call it) is the real future of computing languages, and ruling it out is simply insane.

Mono is prime time ready now, and Apple's disallowing of it has no basis in computing reality. The advantages of the CLI are simply far too many. Managed code. Garbage collection. Choice of languages... Sigh... The beauty brings me to tears~! :)

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Living Room / Re: Shiny Disco Balls
« Last post by Renegade on June 15, 2010, 07:44 PM »
That was very cool! :) With flesh colored bikinis even! And some dude doing some vogue stuff well in advance of Madonna. (Never liked her...)
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Living Room / Re: IP address on public network
« Last post by Renegade on June 15, 2010, 07:39 PM »
Connecting to a torrent isn't illegal. It depends on what you are downloading.

You can use HTTP proxies (e.g. www.hidemyass.com) to anonymize yourself, but that still doesn't prevent checking on what you are doing locally. You need to use a secure proxy (HTTPS).

For torrents, use the onion router or IP2P or TOR to anonymize yourself. Search on those for more information.

Basically, you need 2 things to remain anonymous and not have people eavesdrop on you: 1) an anonymizer to make you anonymous (big surprise there), 2) a secure connection to encrypt whatever you are doing against prying eyes.
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Living Room / Re: Narrowing your definition of a word...
« Last post by Renegade on June 14, 2010, 07:12 PM »
Interesting article.

Narrowing definitions in my own experience is the religious war in and of itself when they occur. Nothing past that actually matters when war breaks out, as everything thereafter is nothing but buckets of red herring.

I'm sure everyone's been in one of those conversations where you disagree with someone, but on further inspection, it turns out that what you both believe to be one thing, is actually two (or more). You then proceed to see things from the other perspective, and the conversation progresses from there, often with general agreement.

When it comes to "free", sigh... while I honestly believe that the world is a much better place for having Richard Stallman and FOSS and GPL and all that jazz, I am vehement in my opposition to their attempts to hijack the word free and restrict its meaning to suit their own purpose and nothing else. It's their unwillingness to admit any other sense of the word that I have a problem with.

As you've pointed out, there are so many different versions of "free" and "open" that it is tantamount to insanity to restrict ( ;) ) the words.

From the BSD perspective, the GPL isn't a "free" license, and vice-versa. The question is "what sense of free do we mean?"

Your choice of quote there nicely sums up the general position of far too many people in the GNU / FOSS / FSF world, and their unwillingness to compromise. As with you, Paul, I have software that I've purchased with source code, and I am "free" to modify the source however I want; I am not free to sell that unless it is merely a part of a larger product of which it constitutes only a part. (Typical component source code licensing.) So I'm free and I'm not free... Huh? WTF? Well, it seems pretty clear to me that "free is relatively ambiguous" unless we actually qualify what is being "freed" or what the object of it is. The typical radical FOSS interpretation is internally contradictory, so it's no wonder that we end up with so many wars over the thing in itself.

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Living Room / Re: Need to Convert .wav to .aac
« Last post by Renegade on June 14, 2010, 06:26 PM »
Somehow I doubt the phone's speaker will be able to reproduce the nuances in an audio file with enough fidelity that you could hear the difference between WAV->AAC vs. WAV->MP3->AAC. But of course as a general rule it's bad to compress more than once to a lossy format (generational loss).

- Oshyan

Some phones allow the use of decent quality ear phones. Though you're right -- phone speakers are generally extremely low quality. (I really wonder how the telcom industry hasn't managed to improve the quality of voice telephony in a hundred years...)
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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by Renegade on June 14, 2010, 06:24 PM »
+1 for wraith808

I have a beer gut that I really need to lose. There's no way I could pull off some tight fitting clothes with it. Which seems obvious, and it astounds me how some super-tubbos figure that they can get away with it. Some things are just not meant for some people.

I remember flying through Houston one time on a stop over to Nashville... Ouch... The number of massively overweight people was simply off the hook. On a return stop over through Seattle, there were very few obese people. It was like night & day. Same country, 2 different cities & states.

+1 for 40Hz (anxiety)

If you've got it, sure, by all means flaunt it. But if you don't have it, please, please, please... Don't torture the rest of us...
NSFW
We love to see camel toe, but hate to see sourdough


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Technology is Science, not art.

Just to go randomly off the rails here... ;)

Actually, I find that a lot of tech is art. I find that a lot of what I do is art. It might all be tech, but there's structure and elegance in there. I suppose the best sort of analogy is that tech is often like a fugue or canon as they have structure and a mathematical elegance.
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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by Renegade on June 14, 2010, 03:47 AM »
They Live (1988)

One of my faves - has the best 'buddy fight' in all filmdom.  Made all the more enjoyable by South Park's hit-for-hit remake in the "Cripple Fight" episode.

+1,000 for They Live!

What was that line? I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and I'm all out of bubble gum. Hilarious! I nearly peed myself when I heard that. :)
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Living Room / Re: Need to Convert .wav to .aac
« Last post by Renegade on June 13, 2010, 10:17 PM »
Or better yet, just use FLAC.
I'm not sure if the phone will take a FLAC file, but I'll keep that option in mind.

DOH! I forgot about that. :S I don't know of any phones that will play FLAC. They're all pretty much scared off by the potential patent problems involved with open source stuff.
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Living Room / Re: Need to Convert .wav to .aac
« Last post by Renegade on June 13, 2010, 08:13 PM »

...But converting from .wav to .mp3 then to .aac worked fine.


You should avoid  converting like that (WAV > MP3 > AAC). Both MP3 and AAC are lossy formats, so you lose quality every time you encode a new file. Use something like WAV > FLAC > AAC as you will not lose quality there. Or better yet, just use FLAC. :)
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4 days is very, very far from reasonable.

The reality of security is that Windows is more secure than most other operating systems by a very wide margin. Literally. (You can't stop idiots from getting hacked no matter what platform, so that's really not a valid complaint about Windows.)

It is a valid complaint because it is a cultural complaint in my opinion.

We're going to have to agree to disagree on that one. I simply cannot see blaming Microsoft because some of its customers are idiots.

To me, it's like blaming Smith & Wesson because some idiot left a loaded gun out for his kid to shoot herself. (There was a recent thread on that one here.) We can't just blame the manufacturer because we're too lazy/stupid/irresponsible.

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You could almost see it in this thread. Lots of complaints about the reporting but very little acknowledgement of the incomplete analysis and easily circumvented workaround when that is just as much a huge deal if not bigger from a security perspective and a bigger security issue considering who disclosed it.
 
As for this being Microsoft or anyone else -- that's largely irrelevant. The fact is that Google disclosed a security vulnerability without allowing the product vendor the opportunity to fix the problem. This is simply inexcusable and unforgivable. It doesn't matter whether it is Microsoft or anyone else. It is standard to give vendors a couple months to get the problem fixed and rolled out, much less disclose the vulnerability WITH EXPLOIT CODE!!!!!

Actually, I need to take something back. It isn't Google spitting in people's faces. That would be irresponsibly disclosing the vulnerability. They disclosed exploit code. No... Google pissed in everyone's face.

Again, that it was Microsoft only shows that Google is more interested in pissing in people's faces to spite its competition than in acting like a responsible, good corporate citizen.

I seriously doubt that this would happen for ACME Software Inc. because they're not any kind of threat or competition for Google.

Exactly. But look at your post now.

The details, the points, they're all correct. But instead of security, you're more interested in creating analogies of what Google's actions correlate with other rude actions.

At the end of the day, this is what the article has done and that's why I still side with Google on this. Not because it's Google but it's a long time coming and Microsoft's stance needs to be tested further by such acts.


But the disclosure is the worse security issue. I'm not glossing over the security issue. I'm addressing the more serious security issue here. Granted, I'm also pointing out the political side of that as well. But you can't really separate the 2. They are linked. The disclosure has a motivation. They need to be in context.

There always will be bugs and exploits in software, but disclosing them in an irresponsible manner like that is the bigger issue. i.e. That there is a security issue (the Windows vulnerability) is the given. But that's not the central issue. New vulnerabilities are not security issues until they are public or actively being exploited. It's the responsibility of the security professional to disclose to the manufacturer, and not to put it out in the open. In that way, security vulnerabilities do not become issues, which is what we all want. We want the problem fixed before it becomes a problem. This guy made a non-problem into a problem. THAT is the problem here. Not the original Windows vulnerability that was not being exploited prior to his disclosure.

It's one thing to be a weapons manufacturer, but it's another thing to sell weapons to thugs, criminals, and terrorists. Which is effectively what happened here.

As for security, Microsoft (in the past few years) has done a very good job. Most companies do not patch security issues nearly as effectively as Microsoft. It's a business issue. Does the risk that an exploit poses justify the cost of patching the issue? For a lot of software authors, the answer is "no".

Having worked in the industry for some time, I've seen exploits before they've been made public and seen companies basically ignore them because the risk was small or the cost was high. It does no good to go out of business because of security costs.

The timing on this is really too much to ignore -- Google just got rid of Windows because of "security", and now this? Hogwash. It's a deliberate attempt to discredit Microsoft and Windows. There is no "lone gunman" here. That's rubbish. But that's the political side of irresponsible security.

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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by Renegade on June 13, 2010, 09:50 AM »
On the topic of hot movies babes, and sticking in the retro theme, how about a Cherry 2000 (pic)? Great flick! Not sure if anyone will know it though. 1987 movie with Melanie Griffith in it.
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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by Renegade on June 12, 2010, 08:05 AM »
Hahahahaa~! Nice post Paul! (Very entertaining! I like the style!)

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Living Room / Re: 20 years later, the movie "Total Recall" still kicks butt
« Last post by Renegade on June 12, 2010, 02:23 AM »
+1 for Zane. It was a brilliant movie. Definitely one of the few that will be worth watching for a VERY long time afterward.

Mind you, I find most of Arnie's movies are fantastic.

Running Man -- Loved it.

The Last Action Hero -- Brilliant. Hollywood critics hated it because it spit the truth in their faces and they were insulted. Probably the most under rated movie that I can think of. The poor reception was responded to with "True Lies" in which Arnie tears the critics a new hole. :)

There are strong themes that run through those films.

I'd say the first truly great film in that "genre" or style was Blade Runner (my sister's favorite movie, and one of mine as well).

Yeah... I'm a die hard Arnie fan!

(Him and Jackie Chan are my 2 favorites.)

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Problem is, Tavis Ormandy has submitted numerous security bugs and larger issues for years, and in return has waited months and years for patches. Seems like he just got tired of waiting on someone at Microsoft to write better code.

Search result: Tavis Ormandy Windows kernel vulnerability

Frustration can certainly be damaging. I usually don't let my frustrations get the better of me unless I know that I can get away with it. :)

PS: @Renegade -- There are no "good corporate citizens." They'll all get away with whatever they can, just as Microsoft has always done. Karma ain't so fun when it's due.

Granted and agreed. The "corporation" is basically a license to sin. All the rights and privileges of the state with none of the responsibilities or obligations. Google apparently doesn't understand that "evil corporation" is a pleonasm. :P (Yes - I am extremely cynical on the topic of corporate agency.)

(Though I'm honestly not so hard on Microsoft ("karma"). I've seen enough of the good that they do and never get credited for. The ONLY press that Microsoft gets is bad press. If Microsoft cured cancer, the press would scream that they didn't cure lukemia. Microsoft simply cannot win. Ever.)

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Paul, no disrespect, but I think you're really off-base on this one.

Microsoft's bad security days are WAY a thing of the past. In Internet history, it's prehistoric.

Google has shown an utter disregard and disrespect for Windows users with a completely flagrant and irresponsible spit in the face to both Microsoft and all Microsoft customers (which also happen to be Google customers). Google has clearly shown that it is more concerned with hurting its competition than in caring for its customers.

4 days is very, very far from reasonable.

The reality of security is that Windows is more secure than most other operating systems by a very wide margin. Literally. (You can't stop idiots from getting hacked no matter what platform, so that's really not a valid complaint about Windows.)

As for Microsoft's security history, a look at the last few years shows that they are among the best in the industry.

As for this being Microsoft or anyone else -- that's largely irrelevant. The fact is that Google disclosed a security vulnerability without allowing the product vendor the opportunity to fix the problem. This is simply inexcusable and unforgivable. It doesn't matter whether it is Microsoft or anyone else. It is standard to give vendors a couple months to get the problem fixed and rolled out, much less disclose the vulnerability WITH EXPLOIT CODE!!!!!

Actually, I need to take something back. It isn't Google spitting in people's faces. That would be irresponsibly disclosing the vulnerability. They disclosed exploit code. No... Google pissed in everyone's face.

Again, that it was Microsoft only shows that Google is more interested in pissing in people's faces to spite its competition than in acting like a responsible, good corporate citizen.

I seriously doubt that this would happen for ACME Software Inc. because they're not any kind of threat or competition for Google.

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Finally an e-reader with a large enough screen for us 45+ trying to avoid bi-focal glasses :Thmbsup:

You reminded me about a customer of mine -- He's a music professor and most certainly doesn't need my software, but uses it for audio books because it has conveniences that you can't get in audio book players.

Anyways, point being that there are markets (like you mention) that really are under-serviced.
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+1 for siding with Microsoft on this.

For security professionals, it's nothing more than complete irresponsibility to post vulnerabilities, much less with exploit code (ed. like above I mean). Most security companies will give you MONTHS to fix the problem before they publish it, and they will keep in contact with you the whole time. 4 days is idiotic.

There's no excuse.
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Living Room / Free Games (code)? Looking for BSD licensed ones.
« Last post by Renegade on June 10, 2010, 09:17 PM »
Does anyone know of any free games? I'd kind of like to put some easter-eggs in some software, and would like to find some BSD licensed games written preferably in C# or .NET (makes integration simple). I need code though. Just executables doesn't help too much.
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Living Room / Re: Dating Sites for Geeks and Nerds?
« Last post by Renegade on June 10, 2010, 08:32 PM »
I'm surprised we haven't had a discussion on the forum about online dating sites.. I have a friend who is trying to convince me to help him code a new one.

Actually I was thinking that it might be interesting to create a site (or software) that two people could go to *AFTER* they meet in real life, to help them get to know each other, etc.

But it got me wondering if anyone here felt brave enough talk about their experiences or discoveries regarding online dating sites?

For software, osDate is free. There's no reason to start from scratch. (PHP)

For dating sites, they are different, so I'd say try different ones and find the one(s) that work for you. Paying is definitely worth it.

I don't really want to get into my own experiences in detail, but suffice it to say that they were good.

I actually met my wife in an online war game, not on a dating site. :)

Maybe there are some "sexy" games out there to "play around" in order to find someone to "play around with"... :P

Silliness aside, the key to online dating, from my own experience, is lots of communication and playing the numbers game. I dated a lot of different women - some just once, some a few times, some for much longer, some on and off. Some dates were disasters, some were fantastic. It's just a numbers game at the end of the day. Run around like mad until you find the right one.

It can get overwhelming if you're dating a lot of people at the same time though. Especially when you forget someone's name... Ouch... That's one danger with online dating sites -- you can easily end up dating too many people at once.

Dunno. I suppose others have different takes on the topic.
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Living Room / Re: Second Wind - beautiful student animation
« Last post by Renegade on June 10, 2010, 08:17 PM »
Loved it. It's nice to see cartoons with texture in them, and not just flat color.

I really wish that the theatres would get back to using their brains (I know... unrealistic...) and actually bringing some better value back to theatre-goers by putting shorts back in. It would make the 15~30 minutes of commercials bearable.

(Pet peeve of mine -- I LOATHE paying almost $20 for a movie only to have them waste my time with an excessive amount of advertising -- if you want me to watch ads, give it to me for free... Otherwise, f*** **f! A few minutes are ok to allow for stragglers, but 15+ minutes???)

It's always really nice to have shorts before a movie. It really makes the whole "going to the movies" experience much better. You get the movie, plus a cool little surprise!

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