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Living Room / Re: Sex Doesn't Sell
« Last post by Paul Keith on January 05, 2010, 01:23 AM »This approach has been mentioned a couple of times, but surely implying things are happening is defeating the point of the medium. I mean you could fade out the action scenes, the emotional scenes, the establishing shots? Where do you stop? The medium is there to tell and portray a story, otherwise we could all just read the synopsis.-Eóin (January 04, 2010, 07:39 PM)
I have to disagree. In terms of limited time visual medium like movies, implication is one of it's prime quality.
In fact, it is a common argument by some classic horror movie fans that some of the scariest films are those that show an invisible horror that leaves itself to the viewer's imagination.
The line is drawn where the director and the producers want it to.
This may even explain why many movies based on factual events are distorted even if the original events would have made for a better movie. Instead of fade to black, think of any other transition directors use to transition to another scene to make a poorer plot seem better through visual editing.
Some notable examples are Nolan's reverse clues in Memento and Prestige, Documentary films like the Blair Witch Project, Shaky cams in Cloverfield, even such things like the quick flash of Eli's pubes caused many viewers to switch perspectives and assume an underage female was shown naked in the film "Let The Right One In" instead of the plot of the novel where it was meant to imply a castrated boy. (note that this is a minor spoiler plot-wise though it may seem like a major one)
I'm not for fade to black either and I think it is a cop-out excuse but it is one of the tools a director has of telling the story of the movie and it's not really censorship unless there was an intent of censorship. (No different from the Japanese cultural idea that if you show a censored vagina/penis, it is somehow less sexualized and more okay to show the actual act. The effect is intended to censor but often times it is just something in-grained in the cultural expectations of what's right or wrong to show.)
I just glanced through some of these responses so forgive me if this point has already been made.
I am an American so I will only comment on American culture. Once upon a time we lived in a gentler, more innocent environment when it came to the movies (I'll restrict my remarks to movies as that seems to be what most people in the thread are focusing on). There was sex & sex scenes, but there is today. Some guy at a movie studio got the bright idea that if he threw in something more explicit than what was norm for the time his movie would cause a splash & see increased ticket sales.
He was right...bam! Sex sells. Ticket sales shoot up and money is made by everybody involved with the movie. Of course, this doesn't go unnoticed by the other movie guys & they each take steps to go farther to out-do the last guy with the sexual aspect of their movies & bring in the money.
That worked great...until now. Even though current movie makers dance the line between what keeps a movie Rated R and what would make it Rated X we've reached a plateau as a culture. We've seen it all. There are no new tricks. There are no more plot twists to wow us with. It's all old hat & culturally we've become very jaded movie watchers.
One only needs to view the 1972 Marlon Brando/Maria Schneider movie 'Last Tango In Paris' to see my point painfully illustrated. Upon its release it was Rated X & caused quite a scandalous stir as to how outrageous it was. Viewing it today it's quite frankly ho-hum & could be classified as a 'mild' R-rated movie by today's standards.
Sex sold & it sold well, but it's become a commodity item and one cannot demand a premium price on something that is over-stocked in abundance everywhere.-Innuendo (January 04, 2010, 04:00 PM)
I disagree. If anything modern American culture has seen less new tricks that something like the Da Vinci Code could cause a controversy.
Could you imagine the uproar if people saw the 1974 nunsploitation film School of the Holy Beast or more people witness a full uncensored version of Ken Russell's movie The Devils? (like the scene with the nun masturbating on a cross?)
I don't even think people have seen a live guro film before and yet such things like Saw became the modern face of a horror franchise and such thing like Ledger's Joker become the modern face of a dark character even though these are commodity item characters too.
In fact, many of the recent box-office successes are commodity items wrapped up in style. Commodity concepts IMO are some of the best selling concepts because the mainstream feels comfortable watching them especially if you make it bigger, better and prettier.
P.S. I'm not denying that porn has become a commodity item.