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Living Room / Re: Cuil search engine
« Last post by kartal on July 29, 2008, 02:06 PM »I said that "unregulated sophisticated tracking is a form of invasion of privacy". This basically means that they can create a massive database through their products usage(email, maps etc)+search services and sell it, give it or do whatever the heck they want with that information. I would remind you google`s compliance with Chinese goverment. Do not get me wrong I am not singling out Google only here. I think that all of the internet should be regulated little bit more when it comes to tracking and keeping records without sacrifing companies profits and netizens rights.
There is no difference between living under a despotic regime that tracks you daily and tracking done by google, yahoo or microsoft. They all are interested in same thing which is manipulating you (via the information they keep about you) further to advance their agendas. This may sound quite strecth but unregulated power is form of despotism to me, virtual or non virtual. You cannot deny the fact that Google adsense could manipulate people`s consuming habits if people are less educated about these matters. If manipulation was not working Google would have not made any money and demolished adsense business long time ago.
The problem with Google is that the formation of octopus powers and skills. They can reach to any place in virtual world through, maps, adsense, emails etc. For example when I go to Amazon and search for an item, Amazon would give me additional choices. Amazon is trying to manipulate me but I am willingly searching for a product and trying to buy a product. In that case Amazon has a clear purpose which is trying to sell a product which I am aware of. With Google this is not so clear, they offer you services but they do not tell you what is happening in the background. What is happening is that you think that you are getting a free service but in reality they want to track your habits, create a profile about you and sell products through this secret mission. I find this annoying and deceptive.
Regarding mentioning conversations between people, I sure would not think that that is invasion of privacy. But if you mention our conversation to someone else by purpose of financial scheme or advancing your financial interests by disregarding my righst that would be a clear invasion of privacy to me. Especially if you mention our conversation to someone I hate knowingly, that might create a privacy problem as well. In that case you would clearly demonstrate that you either lack simple social qualities or have a different purpose.
I follow my mouth or my mouth follows my hearth and mind, no problem there. I do not use Google products and trying to avoid google search as much as possible. Once I have a better choice I would ditch Google with my whole heart, just because of their shady privacy practices. I am not only talking about myself, anyone`s privacy and rights matter to me.
I am hoping that one day there would be true non commerical search engine model that its financials works based on community and donations like donation coder concept.
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There is no difference between living under a despotic regime that tracks you daily and tracking done by google, yahoo or microsoft. They all are interested in same thing which is manipulating you (via the information they keep about you) further to advance their agendas. This may sound quite strecth but unregulated power is form of despotism to me, virtual or non virtual. You cannot deny the fact that Google adsense could manipulate people`s consuming habits if people are less educated about these matters. If manipulation was not working Google would have not made any money and demolished adsense business long time ago.
The problem with Google is that the formation of octopus powers and skills. They can reach to any place in virtual world through, maps, adsense, emails etc. For example when I go to Amazon and search for an item, Amazon would give me additional choices. Amazon is trying to manipulate me but I am willingly searching for a product and trying to buy a product. In that case Amazon has a clear purpose which is trying to sell a product which I am aware of. With Google this is not so clear, they offer you services but they do not tell you what is happening in the background. What is happening is that you think that you are getting a free service but in reality they want to track your habits, create a profile about you and sell products through this secret mission. I find this annoying and deceptive.
Regarding mentioning conversations between people, I sure would not think that that is invasion of privacy. But if you mention our conversation to someone else by purpose of financial scheme or advancing your financial interests by disregarding my righst that would be a clear invasion of privacy to me. Especially if you mention our conversation to someone I hate knowingly, that might create a privacy problem as well. In that case you would clearly demonstrate that you either lack simple social qualities or have a different purpose.
I follow my mouth or my mouth follows my hearth and mind, no problem there. I do not use Google products and trying to avoid google search as much as possible. Once I have a better choice I would ditch Google with my whole heart, just because of their shady privacy practices. I am not only talking about myself, anyone`s privacy and rights matter to me.
I am hoping that one day there would be true non commerical search engine model that its financials works based on community and donations like donation coder concept.
This is quite true. And while I disagree with you, I applaud whole-heartedly your conviction if you actually put your behavior where your mouth is.-CWuestefeld (July 29, 2008, 01:03 PM)
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First of all the engine has just launched other day. I would ask you to refresh your memory about when google came out. Probably Cuil`s results are better than Google`s first day results. It takes time to create sensible results.
