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Living Room / Re: Structured Procrastination - hahaha
« Last post by f0dder on May 31, 2006, 06:09 AM »
Cramming for a test at last minute is an ineffective way to study. Procrastination works against you in this case.

It got me some insanely good grades, though ;)
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Living Room / Re: Your monthly reminder - BACK UP YOUR HARD DISK
« Last post by f0dder on May 31, 2006, 06:05 AM »
And remember: RAID Mirroring is NOT a substitute for backing up.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Why is so much software cracked?
« Last post by f0dder on May 31, 2006, 06:03 AM »
I think you're missing the point, Cpilot.

Tiered pricing is about actually wanting to pay, but not being able to pay full price (think students, unemployed, low-income workers). Tiered pricing, if it was done (unrealistic, I'm afraid), would enable those people to get a legit version instead of pirating it, ultimately giving the company a larger income.
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Living Room / You thought google maps was cool?
« Last post by f0dder on May 30, 2006, 12:52 PM »
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General Software Discussion / Re: Why is so much software cracked?
« Last post by f0dder on May 30, 2006, 07:08 AM »
The hardcore pirates will pirate even if prices were dropped substantially, probably even if photoshop cost $10.
What do you mean? Being 'hardcore' has nothing to do with still pirating software even if it costs a dollar... All teams did it, do it and will continue doing it, however most focus mainly in the expensive pieces of software.
I meant hardcore as in "those people you just can't reach" - either because they're anti-capitalist or just cheap-asses :)

When you think of a good image processor, isn't Photoshop that comes to mind?
Actually, I think of Paint Shop Pro 9 - it fits my needs better than the big Photoshop package. Loads faster, and doesn't have as steep a learning curve as photoshop, and does what I need. I miss some things from the really old Micrografx Picture Publisher, by the way... was one of the easiest way of doing Alpha that I've worked with, and it had "objects" in supplement to "layers" - was also nice to work with.

And something else, would you really pay for software you just want to use once, if the demo/trial can't do it?
A few games, yes - because the cost per hour is cheaper than a cinema ticket :)
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General Software Discussion / Re: Why is so much software cracked?
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 01:54 PM »
I think a really good point that was made is that some of the software is so expensive that there are people (like me) who would never pay full price for it, therefore the company would not get a sell from them.
I understand this point of view, but if you apply it to the real/physical world, would you suggest that stealing a bottle of 16-year-old whisky is okay? "I'd never pay full price for it, so it's not like they lose money" :). I think that kind of arguing is a bit silly, but it *does* have a point, too.

And those people who pirate it generally won't be using it professionally.
Unfortunately, there are. I'm not sure how widespread commercial use of pirated products is, but I know that DataRescue has had problems with companies(!) pirating their IDA disassembler.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Why is so much software cracked?
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 11:57 AM »
Hmm, okay - better not talk more about that here. Seems a bit silly though, I think MS does have the ability to lock XP pirates out totally, but decide not to... yet.
Yes, i see your point. But i didn't know about that locking pirated windows ability... some more information on that?
Well, the can obviously detect whether you have a valid key or not. Move that detection server-side instead of client-side, and you're locked out. Of course they can't stop you from plain using windows XP, but they can stop you from getting updates.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Why is so much software cracked?
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 11:49 AM »
I think a good solution for programs like photoshop would be to have a "light" version that would be usable, but not powerful enough to be used by professionals.
WITHOUT a dumbed-down interface that just screams "you're a bloody retard" at you >_<, just because you can't afford the pro version.

But if we see things from another angle, that's what already happens right now. We have the pricey photoshop and the light version, "the gimp".
Not to mention paint shop pro... oh well, nevermind, bought by corel, dead product.

Hrm, afaik you won't be able to use the web-based windows update though, nor download the "genuine windows required" stuff from their site. Dunno if the various activation cracks solve that, I've got a valid key :)
I also have a valid key, but what you mentioned is not quite true, the "genuine windows required" can be solved, it just takes a bit of work ;)
Hmm, okay - better not talk more about that here. Seems a bit silly though, I think MS does have the ability to lock XP pirates out totally, but decide not to... yet.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Why is so much software cracked?
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 10:31 AM »
we also have to include that the software companies know full well that their product is cracked and available to download and they choose not to put extra protection into the next release of the software.
With some protections, though, a good deal of work is needed to remove it, and can't be 100% automated... so a new release by itself is sortof "extra protection" :)

microsoft, after all, hasn't shut down all the illegal copies of windows xp - you can simply opt out of it nagging you to buy a valid copy with the new genuine advantage thingy that now pops up.
Hrm, afaik you won't be able to use the web-based windows update though, nor download the "genuine windows required" stuff from their site. Dunno if the various activation cracks solve that, I've got a valid key :)

the most appealing pricing structure to me would be - if you use the software within a business/commercial/whatever environment or for earning money yourself then it's only fair to pay up for the full (expensive) cost of the software. a domestic 'home' version ought to be available at a reduced price.
That would certainly be nice - get the real money from those who have it, but allow mortal people to have legit copies as well (has some marketing value anyway).

Btw, my musician friend says that the CuBase protection is mostly around the "logic code" (inserting notes, moving stuff around, etc.) so you don't notice it most of the time. But once you have audio stuff taking up 90% CPU power, the logic-protection can feel a bit sluggish :)

I really don't know if the donation model would work for larger-scale software. Hell, I don't even know if reduced pricing for the home sector would work. If an admin sees a product drop from $5.000 to $100, wouldn't he be suspicious that something's wrong with the software?

app103, you probably have a point there. I don't think it's a conincidence that Microsoft have waited so long with implementing real protection in their OS'es (9x could be bypassed easily, 2000 it was a simple as changing a line in a .inf file before installing, and your key wasn't even stored after install afaik).
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Oh no, now I'll probably waste a few hours of my life :)  :Thmbsup:
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General Software Discussion / Re: Why is so much software cracked?
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 09:32 AM »
Well, to be fair, applications do need a bit of protection, otherwise I'm afraid (casual) piracy would explode.  I draw the line when the protection becomes a major problem for the end-user (insanely long serials, slow dongles, phone-home activation etc.)

Btw. afaik it took more than "a few months" before cubase was cracked, it seems like they (or rather, the protection company) came up with some really fancy protection. Not to mention that various cracked releases were pretty unstable. Pretty well done :) - I'm not a cubase user myself though, so I don't know whether the protection slowed down stuff majorly, I guess I could ask one of my musician friends.

so, the people that make software know their product will be cracked - the crackers know they can crack it - the people that aren't going to pay for software know they can can get a cracked version.
But sometimes having to wait too long might encourage them to buy? Dunno.

Consider this... a program that has no protection at all. Admin has a license for 10 apps, but 12-15 computers to install to. It's a bit tempting to forget about the licensing issue. If there's some protection, even if it's easily broken, the admin would need to knowingly download+run a keygen/crack/whatever. I think there's a slight moral difference between the two.

would dropping the price of 'expensive' software make pirating/cracking less appealing? seems the software companies think not.
Good question. The hardcore pirates will pirate even if prices were dropped substantially, probably even if photoshop cost $10. Other pirates are more like collectors, they don't even install the stuff they download - those obviously wouldn't pay either, and shouldn't be included in the statistics.

Pricing is pretty complicated stuff, IMHO. Who's your target segment? What kind of cash do they have? How much do you spend on development? If you lower price by X, will the Y amount of new customers get you the same income? et cetera.

Then the piracy issue. A company might see that it's product is pirated, and thing "omfg we need protection". But really, even if "super expensive CAD program" or "very obscure and expensive medical imaging application" are released on the warez scene, how many people are going to use those applications? Does it mean an actual loss? I think the BSA and friends are way off when they estimate losses due to piracy...

I wonder how big an issue it really is. The people who whine most about piracy are the companies that make billions a year... would be interesting to hear what low-profile companies and shareware authors have to say.
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Living Room / Re: MS: "OpenDoc too slow!" IBM: "MS Open XML too heavy!"
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 08:26 AM »
Hm, I thought OpenDocument was what OpenOffice uses... XML and all that.

Anyway, 4081 pages does seem like a lot. I wonder if they have a complete description of XML in there as well, and not just the schemas :)
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General Software Discussion / Re: Why is so much software cracked?
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 08:07 AM »
As for why software is *cracked*... it's a game. Some enjoy the challenge of defeating a difficult protection, some enjoy the "statistics" they can make by mass-cracking a bunch of small apps from the same company using basically the same protection. And then there's of course the competition between the various cracking groups. If you have a look at what is cracked in the so-called "0-day" scene (http://www.nfodb.com...ion_1_0-day_nfo.html) you'll see a lot of really useless crap there, cracked only "because they could".

The oooh-so-romantic "fame and glory" is only one side of the story, though. Groups also release cracks to gain and maintain access to the so-called "topsites". The more apps and more interesting stuff you crack (games and applications obviously ranking higher than shareware applications), the better topsites you gain access to. Some 6 years ago, a ftp with 1TB storage on a full-duplex 100mbit connection was considered decent, which says something about the insane amount of storage and bandwidth used today, just for piracy.

http://www.welcometothescene.com has a (somewhat comic and somewhat frowned-upon by the oh-so-elite "real scene members") bunch of episodes with some fictional scene people, and while it's a bit comical, serves as a pretty good introduction to what it's all about.

(No, I'm not associated with all that stuff, I just happen to know people).
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Living Room / Re: MS: "OpenDoc too slow!" IBM: "MS Open XML too heavy!"
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 07:51 AM »
I'm personally pretty tired of OpenOffice (way too slow startup, even on my dualcore machine), and the later versions of MS Office (way too bloated). I'm considering playing around with http://www.lyx.org/ when I get the time, since I don't personally need MS Office interoperability.

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Official Announcements / Re: Contest - Make a new Banner for Website
« Last post by f0dder on May 29, 2006, 07:48 AM »
Latest version is brilliant!

Definitely don't have the guy with the exclamation mark to the right of cody... looked like he was afraid of being taken a dump on :P
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
« Last post by f0dder on May 28, 2006, 03:52 PM »
Not blindingly fast,
Not too surprising, especially not on the first run of it after you've started windows - it's a DOS program, and NTVDM does take a bit to start :)

The command-line locate from locate32 has a nice bunch of options as well, btw - regular expressions and whatnot.
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Official Announcements / Re: Contest - Make a new Banner for Website
« Last post by f0dder on May 28, 2006, 12:27 PM »
SMF supports "themes", that might be worth looking into... users can even choose their own theme. So, I guess the top X best logos could be chosen, and each logo could have it's own theme?
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Living Room / Re: What to do in case of a terrorist attack
« Last post by f0dder on May 28, 2006, 11:26 AM »
Haha, pretty nice :)

Try to absorb as much of the radiation as possible with your groin region.
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Living Room / Re: Birthday Calculator - really cool
« Last post by f0dder on May 28, 2006, 10:35 AM »
Hehe... but!

You can boil 3.20 US ounces of water with that many candles.
Won't that depend on the pot, kettle, tinfoil bag (or whatever) you boil it in? ;)
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It looks very nifty indeed, kinda makes you want a high-end digital camera. I don't have the cash or the photo snapping skills though, so I'll just sit here and smile a bit at the nifty interface. I'm usually not too happy with Adobe products, but this one looks like it's done right.

Will probably require a monster CPU though, and do paging even with a gig of ram, but that's just how adobe products work  :P
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Official Announcements / Re: Contest - Make a new Banner for Website
« Last post by f0dder on May 27, 2006, 06:25 PM »
Perhaps a heart, with Cody inside, eating a gold coin with a dollar sign on it in parens?  :-*

* f0dder does the crazy caffeinated dance
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Official Announcements / Re: Contest - Make a new Banner for Website
« Last post by f0dder on May 27, 2006, 06:07 PM »
Oooh, I especially like the one with the globe. COMMUNITY! :D
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Official Announcements / Re: Contest - Make a new Banner for Website
« Last post by f0dder on May 27, 2006, 04:53 PM »
I like the one with the talking heads - I think the bubble with the dollar sign in should be a bit smaller, though, and perhaps the dollar sign could be in (parentheses), to show that donation is optional? Just an idea :)
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Official Announcements / Re: User Profiles ... a request
« Last post by f0dder on May 27, 2006, 03:59 PM »
There, added a bit more to my profile, methinks :)
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Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Locate 3.0 - great HD search tool!
« Last post by f0dder on May 27, 2006, 03:55 PM »
I finally got around to installing Locate, and I must say it's a treat. I don't think I'm going to use it as my only file-search app, because of the database update issue, but it certainly is nice for doing fast finds of "archived" material.

I've never been a fan of those desktop search apps, I don't like using a browser for searching my *files*, and I don't really need content-indexed searches. So Locate is a perfect compromise for me.

For "bleeding edge" :P searches, the built-in search of xplorer^2 full seems to do the trick. I guess I should check out Seeker too, though.
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