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« Last post by rgdot on October 12, 2013, 02:57 PM »No problem. If you get to WordPress ask here too, I will try to help.
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You catch them with good old fashioned police work. Do I think that targeted intelligence operations against people that are build upon the systemic gathering of evidence and the layering of work upon work are wrong? No.
But do I think that spying against everyone on the chance that you will gather information from the few is wrong? Emphatically yes.
And if people are caught using this manner, does the fact that you caught a bad person absolve you of the responsibility for using the wrong methods. Emphatically no.
In fact, if this evidentiary trail was submitted in any reputable court of law under the rule of law, then the whole case should, by the same rule of law that you're trying them under, be thrown out.-wraith808 (October 03, 2013, 03:07 PM)
Example:
If I sell drugs on a site vs if I have a site that people sell drugs is the same to you guys now? there is a slippery slope if doing the former leads to an arrest?
(It has nothing to do with legalization by the way, I am not against that but have yet to hear how legalization is going to be applied. Every corner store or limited sellers and where exactly those seller are bringing their supply from...)-rgdot (October 03, 2013, 12:45 PM)
Example: Someone is using telecommunications to monitor all activity. They arrest someone based on that activity. Does that arrest justify the fact that they spied on my innocent communications?
The ends NEVER justify the means.-wraith808 (October 03, 2013, 12:48 PM)
If the part of the indictment that he was actually involved in it and not just a 'platform provider' is true then of course it has be shut down. The whole issue of NSA snooping being bad is because normal, legal and fair things are being infringed upon, if we are going to get mad that a site used for various long illegal activities is shut down we are going way too far.
(Before accusing me of things remember I am using IF here)-rgdot (October 03, 2013, 11:26 AM)
Legal vs. Illegal is actually a much more slippery slope than it is purported to be when they want to get you. A phone can be used for illegal purposes. In addition the phone company is making a profit on the arrangement of the illegal services.-wraith808 (October 03, 2013, 11:45 AM)
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plus I wouldn't like my email to end up in spam folder-kalos (September 23, 2013, 04:07 PM)
