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Living Room / Re: A Parrot Riding a Car's Windshield Wipers
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 07:09 PM »
I get those birds outside in the trees sometimes. They're en masse when they're there. It's so nice to have wildlife around like that. :) Not something I got in Seoul...
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General Software Discussion / DC is Much Smoother in Opera
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 06:51 PM »
Slowly moving to Opera, and just moved DC and Facebook over here... WOW! What a difference! It's like night and day.

I used Opera for a long time, then things started breaking, and moved away from it. So far everything has been bang on with no glitches. And much faster.

I've been finding that IE and Firefox are simply way too slow now. I use IE for a few sites and nothing else, and it's painful. Firefox is getting just as bad, but not quite. Then again, FF takes up a gig of RAM while IE takes up very little. Trade offs...

Said it before, so I'll say it again... All browser innovation begins in Opera. Now, if only the other browsers would try to copy that little innovation in Opera that we fondly refer to as "not being mind-numbingly sluggish to the point of making me want to stab myself in they eyes to make the pain go away..." :D :P
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 06:36 PM »
Up until now, there has been pretty much universal agreement that anything which gets installed on your PC without giving notice and asking your permission is unacceptable.

...

And I think the reason for that is very simple: most people wouldn't install OC if they knew about it.

But that's the thing -- It doesn't get installed! It runs, but it isn't installed.


When most people go to install software, they aren't agreeing to a lot of things, but things are genuinely changed on their system that they have NOT asked for. This is the normal way of doing things and nobody would call it malicious. For example, an installer adds registry keys and puts a DLL in the system32 folder, creates a ProgramData entry, another local/roaming directory structure, checks if certain other software is installed, if not installs it or upgrades it, etc. etc. That's normal. But OpenCandy isn't doing all that stuff. It runs then it's done.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 06:25 PM »
@cmpm - Thanks! :)

did Eset ever answer you?

Do they ever contact anyone? Sigh... No. Not yet. I doubt they will. They really need to work it out with OC and not me. I just submitted to help get their attention as it is bad for me and everyone else that uses OC.

It is kind of frustrating... The security companies really need to shape up some and come up with methods that are reliable.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 05:41 PM »
From what I know and have seen, both in OC and here, there seem to be a few misconceptions about what OC is doing.

First, it's not tracking you at all. However, it is doing more than a Flash banner ad on a web site.

A web site ad does not have the same access to your computer that OC has. OC has several offers available and they don't offer you what you already have, so, the logic is something like this:

Code: C# [Select]
  1. OfferList = { ...big list of offers ordered by profitability... };
  2.  
  3. foreach (item in OfferList)
  4. {
  5.     if (item.IsNotInstalled)
  6.     {
  7.         OpenCandy.MakeOfferToUser(item);
  8.         OpenCandy.OsLanguageCountry(); // Log OS, language and country as aggregates
  9.         return;
  10.     }
  11. }

There, item.IsNotInstalled checks to see if the item exists on the computer by checking the registry. In a way, that is more power than a normal ad. In another way, it's about equivalent.

Anyways, I don't have absolute knowledge of what is going on, but from what I can tell, that's it or at least pretty darn close.

I have not seen the advertiser SDK, so I don't know exactly what goes on there, but my guess is that there is something in it that informs OC if the offered software has been subsequently run. That is the part that ensures that the offered software is genuinely wanted by the user, which then tells OC to pay the original software author (like me). However, I am not certain. Just guessing there.

We trust software all the time. Some people even trust cracks and warez. (Yikes...) If there were something dirty going on, it would be much easier to simply not use OC and do all the dirty stuff in the software instead. But there isn't. It's pretty simple. It presents an "ad" during installation in the same way that a web site puts ads on its pages. The difference is that you're not being tracked with OC, but when you visit virtually any web page, you ARE being tracked by Double-Click or Google or someone. Google keeps PERSONAL track of you even. They use personally identifying information thanks to you having signed up at Youtube or Gmail or some other Google service. So when you visit www.acme.com, the ads are very specific to that site and YOU.

There are other privacy concerns out there that are much much more serious. But really, people just don't care. They are used to them now. This is just a slightly different way to serve up an ad/offer.

Truthfully, in an installer is PRIME space for it because you have the person's dedicated attention. They aren't distracted by anything else. (Which is the same motivation for why I used a full page back-splash for the Photo Resizer installer --- people aren't distracted then and can pay attention to the installer -- it targets people that are not tech-savvy.)

Anyways, I kind of hope that helps some with tracking and whatnot.
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Living Room / The "Cloud" Goes Up in Smoke
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 09:24 AM »
Yet another casualty, or casualties as the case may be:

http://www.amateurph...ost_news_306605.html

Photographers nationwide have expressed outrage after thousands of their images vanished from image-sharing website fotopic.net without warning.

Fotopic.net users have not been able to access their pictures for several weeks, sparking fears that the company behind the site has hit financial difficulties and ceased trading.

At first it seemed the problem may be technical - because the site has gone down before - but, as the weeks pass, concerns grow for the future of the site.
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we have discussed so many times on this forum the evil of false positives and the laziness of security software in blithely reporting things as threats when they have no idea what they are looking at.  one wonders what it's going to take to make antivirus companies get serious about stopping this disgraceful behavior with regard to false positives.

Hell freezing over? Armageddon? The 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse?

Nah... Those are all far too common and easy~! :D
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 05:03 AM »
Ok, so now OC is also being bundled in with apps you already paid for?

In all fairness, it's the demo/trial installer. Buy they are one and the same. You just run your .reg key to license it.


Do you get paid the same for recommending any of these softwares or does it depend on the advertiser's bid?


Pay varies by title, but I couldn't tell you much about that. I really need to get more first hand experience under my belt before I can talk about payment stuff.

But, now that I released it publicly (about a day ago), I am getting some stats rolling in. (Put up one graphic already at Cynic.me.)

Incidentally, the press release is here:

http://www.prweb.com...1/3/prweb8252577.htm

:)
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I was totally believing those allegations, but now I have doubts. Guess, I'll have to remember to be much more careful about stuff written on the internets.

And yeah, Doco seems to be a much more reliable and trustworthy source of information :)


I know what you mean. It's almost scary just how much false information you get now. Journalism used to be somewhat responsible...


Secretly I want samsung to have made this mistake. It would remind people to not blindly trust companies just because they put shiny stickers on a device.

If "THEY" are being secretive they must have a sinister motive.

But given the snaky oiliness of "computer security" products, the false positive still sounds like very possible explanation.

I have a soft spot for Samsung. I make lots of money from them. So I like to seem them come out ahead. :)
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Living Room / Re: A Parrot Riding a Car's Windshield Wipers
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 04:56 AM »
....why would any animal stay in a location it considered stressful.

Superglue


or a nailgun.

BWAHAHAHAHAA~!

Oh man... that was bordering on pee my pants funny~!
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Announce Your Software/Service/Product / Re: Pre-launch of Super Simple
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 03:54 AM »
And, the launch is on! :)

http://www.prweb.com...1/3/prweb8252577.htm

Speed for Geeks and Ease for Technotards with Super Simple Photo Resizer

Who needs a trillion features when you can have speed and ease? That's Super Simple's new image resizer for Windows, Photo Resizer. Squarely aimed at non-techno-savvy people, Photo Resizer casts off complexity for ease and speed.

I hope that comes off humorously for people. :)
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Living Room / Re: A Parrot Riding a Car's Windshield Wipers
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 03:53 AM »
[Disclaimer: I'm also a hypocrite as I don't like cruelty to animals (who would) but I'm more than happy for them to be slaughtered for my dinner plate. I am far to lazy to become vegetarian - and also like the taste of meat.]

Without fully understanding parrot psychology, it looks like the parrot isn't too distressed by the ride (and may be enjoying it):

1) Even if its wings are clipped, it doesn't appear to be stressed when perched on the wiper when the car is stationary. Assuming the parrot can remember the last high speed journey it made, riding the wiper, I'd expect it to jump off the wiper when the car is stationary - why would any animal stay in a location it considered stressful.

2) Anyone seen a dog stick its head out of a speeding car open window? The appear to love doing it. Why shouldn't a parrot be the same, why is there always an automatic assumption that the animal is in distress, the parrot might be absolutely thrilled by the speed.

3) The "expert" woman says that the parrot is clearly in distress because it doesn't move about on the wiper. Well, you wouldn't move about on the wiper when travelling at high speed because you want to keep your shape aerodynamic - the parrot has plenty of opportunity to jump off the wiper when the car is moving slower, and as we see at the end, the parrot gets, accidently, thrown of the wiper. It doesn't make a quick escape, instead it just stands there waiting for another ride.

4) If the parrot really hated the experience, wouldn't it be attacking it's owner to demonstrate how it felt. Instead I see quite a happy parrot with its owner.

5) The guy might not come across as that smart, but he seems to love his parrot. I think he'd realise if the parrot didn't seem happy about the whole thing. I doubt that one day he decided it was a good idea to take his parrot on a 60mph test drive - maybe a slow driver around the block for starters, and then faster runs as they progressed.

Makes perfect sense.

Hey! It's a PARROT! They can talk! Why doesn't someone just ask it~! :P :D
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Thinking about it again, it seems to me that if Samsung were to do it, they would make use of their own custom keylogger, and not use a 3rd party one. That's just the Korean way of doing things - build it yourself. It's out of character.
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Living Room / Re: A Parrot Riding a Car's Windshield Wipers
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 01:16 AM »
I think the parrots wings have been clipped. Not 100% sure, but it would make sense.
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That is so very very far off the reservation... I have a hard time believing that any company like Samsung would do that, especially after the Sony debaucle. I could believe that a malicious third party put it on between the manufacturing and the retailer, or at the retailer.

Samsung security in Suwon is pretty darn tight. You cannot use a USB key on any machines there at all (by default). But, it's not impregnable. A third party intervening there? Dunno.

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Living Room / Re: A Parrot Riding a Car's Windshield Wipers
« Last post by Renegade on March 31, 2011, 12:29 AM »
That's a news one with the parrot owner talking about it.

Please note, you are confusing tripe with news - aca, (A Current Affair), has not been associated with real news content for more years than I care, (or can), remember.

News programs in Australia exist on two TV channels only - SBS and ABC.

I stopped differentiating between news and entertainment/tripe long ago when the two merged. :)

But I know what you mean. A Current Affair is little different from Fox News.

(I am so tired of 24/7 blaring about disasters and terrorism...)
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Living Room / Re: A Parrot Riding a Car's Windshield Wipers
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 11:42 PM »
I don't think the guy means to be cruel. (He doesn't sound all that bright.)

What I find conflicting is tonight I'll likely have some meat for dinner, and I know that there are serious problems with livestock and their living conditions. For me to condemn this guy, then go have a hamburger or chicken breast is really kind of hypocritical.

Dunno. I can't see myself doing something like he did, but I can see myself munching on a chicken. The parrot is still alive. The chicken isn't. Which is worse?
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 11:38 PM »
@Renegade

Is there a list of participating 'Advertisers' somewhere? I could not find one at http://www.opencandy.com/.

Not that I've seen except for the actual control panel. I've been kind of leery of posting much from the control panel as it just seems like control panels are private for a reason. But, all this is available publicly from different installers, so this here just cuts through the needless work of compiling a list. Now, I don't know if this is complete or not as I can only report what I know. Other people may have more or less in their control panels, but I kind of doubt it. (List is alphabetical.)

  • Advanced Registry Optimizer 2011
  • ALLConverter Pro
  • AOL Toolbar
  • ASPCA Reminder by We-Care.com
  • AVG Anti-Virus 2011
  • Battery Optimizer
  • Buyobab
  • Crawler Toolbar with Web Security Guard
  • DriverHive
  • eBay Sidebar for Firefox
  • Evernote
  • Groupon
  • Gutscheinrausch
  • Jing by TechSmith
  • kikin
  • MashLogic Better Links
  • Microsoft Bing Bar
  • Microsoft Internet Explorer 8
  • Microsoft Internet Explorer 9
  • My Shopping Genie
  • FaceSmooch
  • Yandex Toolbar
  • Nitro PDF Reader
  • OfferBox
  • ooVoo
  • PC Power Speed from Crawler
  • PC Speed Up
  • PretonSaver Home
  • PriceGong
  • Real Player
  • Registry Booster by Uniblue
  • Registry Reviver
  • RegRevive
  • Snagit by TechSmith
  • StumbleUpon
  • SweetIM
  • TuneUp Media
  • Wakoopa
  • World of Warcraft by Blizzard
  • Yontoo Layers

That looks like this in the control panel:

Screenshot - 2011-03-31 , 3_24_32 PM.png

But if you take a close look at the advertisers in OpenCandy, they're all big/popular names. Blizzard. Microsoft. AOL. ASPCA. etc. etc.

Most people here probably have some of that software on their computer already. Someone has a Wakoopa graphic in their signature, but I forget who at the moment.

The more I find out about things, the more I'm sold on the idea.
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Living Room / A Parrot Riding a Car's Windshield Wipers
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 11:22 PM »


There are many more videos of it out there. That's a news one with the parrot owner talking about it.

Seems to have ticked off quite a few people that have been very vocal about their hatred for the fellow.

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Living Room / Re: Strange subtleties of the Placebo Effect
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 11:03 PM »
I wouldn't doubt that. People tend to doubt their skepticism if they don't know how to verify it.

Often times it's easier to hope on a cure (assuming taking it means little to no cost plus massive gains)

We see this all the time with health drinks, religious atmosphere and even productivity systems. (and hell...web marketing)

I make $50,000 a day working at home for 5 minutes a day and you can too! Send me $50,000 and I'll tell you how! :P
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 09:56 PM »
And a very interesting thread about OC here:

http://getsatisfacti...ion/topics/opencandy

Again, both sides of the fence there.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 09:33 PM »
On topic, I just went to download an update for Fruity Studio, and...

http://flstudio.imag...uments/download.html

Screenshot - 2011-03-31 , 1_32_03 PM.png

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 09:11 PM »
Having a good day, yes I am.

Perhaps you should contact Eset, and work it out with them.
Or not, I'm not taking sides, but I will stay with Nod32.

I'm sure they have contacted Eset. I have. :)

But perhaps Eset is a bit miffed about this screenshot from my OpenCandy control panel:

Screenshot - 2011-03-31 , 1_08_16 PM.png

If AVG is distributing their anti-virus software through OpenCandy, I'm kind of thinking just a little bit about a few tiny things and perhaps just maybe... :)

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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 11:28 AM »
In any event, it's "off to a start":

http://cynic.me/2011...3/31/off-to-a-start/

Not much, but it will pick up. It's only been 1 day since I released the publicly, so we'll see.
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General Software Discussion / Re: What the hell is OpenCandy?
« Last post by Renegade on March 30, 2011, 11:11 AM »
Well, no offers of other software came up and Photo Resizer installed and works.
Searching for opencandy or OCSetupHlp.dll came up with no results.

Not for offers of other software.  From looking at the agreement, they have the same concept as other advertisers, i.e. impressions and click through.  I wasn't saying that it was to get more offers, but to track impressions.  Did it say what the request was?  That (other than asking) would seem to be the way to figure out what it was trying to do...

The offers are from Microsoft, Uniblue and a bunch of other big names. The software isn't just junk. There are some shopping things offered, but I looked at them, and they're actually pretty good. I was pleasantly surprised.
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