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quick question: would putting win2k on a dual core machine instead of xp provide any noticeable performance difference?
Dunno really - after turning off the fisherprice fluff and some services, I don't remember much of a speed difference even back on the Athlon700. XP did seem a bit more memory hungry though, but when I ugpraded to 256meg back then, everything seemed nifty.

Theoretically XP should even be a bit faster, because of some kernel changes (like supporting SYSCALL instead of the old interrupt-based system calls), but that's probably dwarfed compared to some of the other stuff added :)

I've actually thought about testing win2k on this machine, but never really gotten around to it.
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Carol: the kernel + security has supposedly been improved in Vista, which could have been worth something. However the kernel is bogged down by the DRM crap, and the security gets so much in your way that you'll want to disable it.

As for eye-candy, I'm the kind of person that turns it off (takes up way too much screen real estate), and prefers win2k style look, even without gradient titlebars. I do like drop-shadows though :]

No one has really given me a sensible reason why anyone would want a pretty desktop that uses up massive amounts of system resources before the computer is actually asked to do something. - and that's spot on the sugar. I don't want my operating system to get in my way, and I want to use my resources for the applications I actually run.

People will claim that "but Vista uses less resources, it has a hardware accelerated GUI!" - to which the answer is "yeah, and I've had that since win9x. Really."

I suppose my experience of W2k was a bit coloured because a number of bits of hardware I had at the time effectively bit the dust because of lack of drivers. There were also a number of games companies (Chessmaster is the one that immediately springs to mind but their were others) that explicitly coded their installers so that the products would not install on Windows 2000 because it was seen as a business OS (even though they eventually installed on Windows XP).
-Carol Haynes
Hm, specific checks against OS... funny, one of the Age Of Empires (iirc) does that too, just for winxp... turns out that there's NO reason for this, as some reversers showed by eliminating the check :). Issues with 9x vs. Win2k were things like sloppy coders ("width" vs. "pitch" of a screen surface), stupid coders (doing direct keyboard port hardware access, even though it wasn't necessary - the POD game), etc.

I don't doubt drivers were a problem, btw, but I didn't own any esoteric hardware back then :)
7578
If you remember back to W2k release it clearly aimed at businesses and not at general users.
-Carol Haynes
...which was pretty unfortunate, they could've done away with 9x and moved to exclusively to NT codebase a lot earlier if they marketed it differently. AFAIK that was actually their plan, initially, but it got changed around.

There were huge issues with lack of drivers for hardware that MS later addressed in WinXP which meant that a lot of people were put off and there was a lack of support for games too.
-Carol Haynes
Drivers might have been a problem for people with quirky hardware, luckily wasn't an issue for me nor any of my friends. Lack of game support is an urban legend, most well-written stuff worked just fine (sure, there were problems with old DOS games, and p.o.s coding that relied on Win9x insecurities, but that wasn't a lot). I used to game a lot back then :)

i can't remember what machines were like around win2k's release, was it still common to use 486's and pentiums?
-nudone
I had an Athlon700, and win2k really flew well on that. 128meg was pushing it, 160 was fine, and 256 ran smooooooth. I'd say my machine was mid-end back then, and relatively low compared to what some of my friends had :)

I'm not going to drink the VISTA kool-aid anytime soon... but I guess I'll be forced to do a test install just to see how bad it really is. "But it's because of immature drivers!111!!!" - yeah, perhaps. And gobbling up resources for no good reason.
7579
Win2k was actually supposed to be the death-blow to the sucky win9x line... but no, for whatever retarded reason. The only real reason I can think of is that, back then, people weren't as willing to buy a new computer just for an OS as they are today, and Microsoft wanted to milk those win9x customers a bit more that didn't have machines that could run Win2k.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Scott Finnie, windows expert, switching to mac
« Last post by f0dder on February 09, 2007, 05:39 AM »
While I wouldn't mind seeing Vista flop totally, I don't think OS X is the right answer either. Go from one DRM-infested eye-candy OS to another, you say? ...:-\
7581
Screenshot Captor / Re: Non-stop refreshing
« Last post by f0dder on February 09, 2007, 05:37 AM »
Isn't the thumbnail pane the single most troublesome and aggravating thing in SSC? :(
7582
Living Room / Re: long exposure photos of classic arcade games
« Last post by f0dder on February 09, 2007, 05:36 AM »
Nif-tay :]
7583
General Software Discussion / Re: CPU Usage shoots up to 100% !?!
« Last post by f0dder on February 09, 2007, 05:35 AM »
Well, WinRAR does use up some CPU cycles, especially while compressing. Decompression is fairly fast, but then again - your box is more than fairly slow. Also, "wherestigger" sounds like a game, and most games will appear to use 100% CPU because of the way game messageloops are  coded.
7584
I guess it's a fair enough way to install it if you actually do have a 2k/XP/whatever. The requirement to install the other OS first is pretty ludicrous, makes the process even more time-wasting than it already is.
7585
Word Processor Roundup / Re: Outlining
« Last post by f0dder on February 09, 2007, 05:29 AM »
* f0dder is an ignorant.

What is outlining? :-[
7586
Developer's Corner / Re: Free .NET Ebook by Charles Petzold
« Last post by f0dder on February 09, 2007, 05:22 AM »
But why is this not in .chm version? :'(
Probably because CHMs suck for printing. Just a guess...
Probably; but then it shouldn't be called an e-book, imho :)

PDFs look pretty and more-or-less the same everywhere, and are great for print - but they're abysmal for use on a computer.
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Living Room / Re: Bigger is Always Better
« Last post by f0dder on February 08, 2007, 05:44 AM »
Hehe, insane :)
7588
Developer's Corner / Re: Free .NET Ebook by Charles Petzold
« Last post by f0dder on February 08, 2007, 05:41 AM »
Hm, interesting.

Petzold's "programming windows" was very good back in the days. But why is this not in .chm version? :'(
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Living Room / Re: Geek squad / Best buy Busted!
« Last post by f0dder on February 08, 2007, 04:57 AM »
There's a difference between thread hijacking and thread evolution - unless the original poster didn't do intelligent thread design.
7590
Hm, actually it does seem like Miranda has some support for custom emoticons - check <installpath>\MSN\CustomSmiley after having a conversation with someone that used some custom emotes.

Now, how to get them displayed in the conversation...
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General Software Discussion / Re: CD Ripping
« Last post by f0dder on February 07, 2007, 03:04 PM »
cdex is good for quick and dirty, although if you want really quick and don't have a fast processor, you'll want to use another mp3 encoder than LAME (and suffer worse quality).

In the old days, I used to use AudioCatalyst (which seemed very similar to AudioGrabber), which had blazing fast burst-mode rip speed and the pretty fast XING codec... quality kinda sucked though, compared to other solutions.

Personally, these days I wouldn't use anything but EAC+LAME+AccurateRip since I do archival-quality ripping (which also means I encode with the lossless FLAC, and will transcode from that when I get a new MP3 player, whenever that be).
7592
pob: custom emoticons are just about the only feature I personally miss in Miranda - dunno if anybody has written a plugin for it.

Btw, even with MSN it's easy enough to "steal" them, just right-click and add... the files are stored somewhere under documents and settings, with "weird filenames" though.
7593
Okay, I wonder wtf's up with Trillian, and how come Josh has so low memory values. Even after enabling pagefile on my system, I get the following stats. Note that this is with trillian not connected to anything (since I had Miranda running) - and with Trillian only having run for a couple minutes but Miranda since I booted my computer (XP doesn't require reboot to enable pagefile).

stats_miranda.pngstats_trillian.png

I wonder what's with all the pagefaults in trillian - it just keeps increasing, increasing and increasing. And you can also see that, although it's been running for a lot less time, trillian has gobbled up more CPU time than Miranda. Nothing significant, but still more "hoggy" than miranda :)
7594
I bet trillian uses the SetWorkingSetSize(GetCurrentProcess(), -1, -1) hack, then, which basically forces windows to page out as much as possible to disk (didn't think this affected "private bytes" though?), which fails to mask the fact on my box, since I've disabled the use of paging file.

Going to enable PF and check what results I get.

7595
I am using trillian 3.1 with 3 open IM windows and the shipment tracker plugin currently monitoring 3 packages.
Care to grab a snap of Process Explorer showing Private Bytes, Virtual Size, and Working Set? While there might be some tweaking to reduce memory usage (I just left everything at defaults), I refuse to believe a working set of 8.4kb, don't think I've ever seen anything below a meg - even my silly uptime.exe that only shows a MessageBox (written in assembly, just for fun) has a 2meg working set and 616kb private bytes.

EDIT: attached the uptime thing, would be interesting to see stats for that along with trillian ;)
7596
As for memory usage, again, I am showing 4K private bytes with a working set of 8.4K
-Josh
Weird, which version? I just did the test of trillian 3.1 (free). Working set of 8.4kb can't be right anyway, except if you've minimized all open trillian windows and it uses some dirty hacks.

Miranda does crash sometimes, but I only experience it with file transfers - so not that big a loss for me. Lame that it does crash, though, no doubt about that.

And I'm happy that Miranda doesn't do any text formatting, that's a plus for me :)
7597
miranda 0.6.5: ~1.1meg download.
trillian 3.1: ~8.58meg download.

Additionally, trillian needs to download extra support files for the necessary protocols - ~245kb for icq/aim, ~211kb for msn.

The trillian installation takes a fair amount of time, it almost seems as they added Sleep() calls to make it seem more "important" than it is (why would DirectX or QuickTime installation checks take around half a second each?)

Trillian loads relatively slowly, the interface is skinned (and doesn't show window contents while being resized), has OfficeXP style menus, et cetera.

As for memory usage with ICQ and MSN protocols loaded:;

miranda: 5000kb private bytes, 560kb working set size
trillian: 31.344kb private bytes, 26.288kb working set size.

Oh, and trillian doesn't even support MSN custom emoticons.
7598
Im going to be building a full wall-to-wall floor-to-ceiling bookcase.  I have some books that describe the process and equipment and i plan to rent some power tools for a weekend since it seems wastefull to try to buy all this stuff for just one project.  Wish me luck!
-mouser
In the end, you'll probably be cursing and swearing and regretting that you didn't just buy some standard modular bookcases, though. At least I know I would.

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Living Room / Re: Geek squad / Best buy Busted!
« Last post by f0dder on February 07, 2007, 06:03 AM »
i find myself belittling the effort involved to fix a pc a lot of the time and so will feel guilty about accepting payment (i know this contradicts what i said above), so it seems very difficult to me to know what to charge - have you any thoughts on this.
-nudone
Exactly the same thing here.

I've stopped fixing people's PCs gratis, though. I still do it for mum, brothers and in-laws, but that's it. I used to feel that I had some sort of obligation just because I know my stuff, but I've slowly (but steadily) forced myself to accept that as a silly thought.

As for payment, I dunno. I still have a hard time demanding money, especially considering that the people I've fixed stuff for usually don't have wads of cash (otherwise they would just have taken the box to a shop). But I think that charging ~DKK150/hour is (more than) fair - that'd be $26, €20 or £13.
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Living Room / Re: System Idle Process Using 85% of CPU
« Last post by f0dder on February 07, 2007, 05:58 AM »
Yeah, don't be worried about "System Idle Process".

Shows up in decent task managers as well, like SysInternals' Process Explorer.
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