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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 07:55 PM »
People want what they want straight away and want to put forth the least amount of effort to achieve that goal.

I'm not sure that’s universally true. For a lot of people, the journey itself is the reward rather than the destination. And many people would rather "do it right" than merely "do it right now."

My experience is that most non-technical people simply use what's available. Not something they actually like - or think is good.
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Living Room / Re: Happy Holidays!
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 07:45 PM »
Nothing profound or clever to say. Just a Merry and a Happy to the entire DoCo community - and especially to Mouser and those secret masters lurking in the background that make this soirée possible. It's a good place. I'm glad I stumbled upon it way back when. It's become a second home to me.

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Looks like Santa & Co. have been hanging' with Renegade...
     Ya know? As in deck them halls with bowls of jolly!
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Living Room / Re: Do we have any musical people on DC?
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 07:34 PM »
@40hz: (re vanilla) - So, I gave out little 1oz bottles of vanilla to my co-workers (wife did the same).  So I think I'm on to something.  Here's my recipe:

Sounds really good! I'll have to give it a try after the holidays. Thank you so much for sharing your recipe. :Thmbsup:

I just started working on a liqueur based on Earl Gray tea and orange blossom honey as the primary flavoring ingredients. If it ever amounts to anything I'll be sure to let you know.
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Non-Windows Software / Re: Mint 17.1 KDE rc delete trash icon desktop?
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 07:05 PM »
I guess that's one big reason people try Linux and give up.   :mad:

Or at least give up on KDE for their primary desktop? ;)
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General Software Discussion / Re: 4 (Maybe more) Absolute top go-to programs
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 12:17 PM »
On the NIX platform:

  • FocusWriter - NIX alternative to WriteMonkey
  • Remmina - multi-platform remote desktop client.
  • Sublime Text Editor - multi-platform text editor.  The best IMO.
  • KeyPassX - NIX alternative to KeePass
  • Scrivener - robust "alpha" version for Linux
  • VirtualBox - multi-platform VM manager. When I absolutely must use a Windows-only app, I'll mostly do it using this.
  • Shutter - until Mouser breaks down and does a version of Screenshot Captor for Linux, I'm stuck with this.
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General Software Discussion / Re: And IT Man of the Year 2014 Is...
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 11:33 AM »
I'm not sure I quite follow what you're getting at here. But I'll keep trying. :)

And, um...I thought Diego Garcia was a secretive U.S. military base that's been much in the alternative and conspiracy news channels of late.

Now I have a question for you: What does any of the rest of your post have to do with: And IT Man of the Year 2014 Is...

I hope that wasn't an attempt at click-baiting on your part. Because if so, that's a definite breech of etiquette around here. :(
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 11:19 AM »
I admire the intent of this thread & have often wished for the same, but the idiocracy has spoken.

That remains to be seen I think. My great grandfather felt the same way about telephones. Why would anybody in their right mind want to talk into a piece of unsanitary plastic when they could just send someone a nicely written letter through a perfectly good postal system for one one-hundredth the cost?

He was firmly convinced phones were just a passing fad. And he never willingly used one, even though he did on rare occasion. My family just smiled at "Grandpa Roy" and called him on the phone if we were in a hurry - or sent him a nice note through the mail if we weren't.

My feeling is it doesn't make sense to let ourselves get bogged down with those who are happy with what they've got for whatever reason.

It's important to remember we're designing this sort of thing primarily for us and for our needs. If there's enough who truly want it - and it actually does what it's intended to do - there will be more than enough critical mass to make it happen.

Just look at e-mail and the Internet. They were once the exclusive playground of the "cool kids." These proto-geeks felt it was all much too complex for the average person to ever use. Then along came AOL and Tim Berners-Lee.

As I said earlier, one key requirement is that we let our machines handle the grunt routine tasks and do the heavy lifting. That frees us up to do the things we non-machines are better suited for.

Or so it seems to me. 8)
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Circle Dock / Re: Version 1.55 - a Significant Release: Please Read Carefully
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 07:13 AM »
I'm not really interested in revisiting the history, and the legal complexities and implications of the different open source licences are massive anyway.

I was just wanting to point out that the programs available on cnet, Softpedia etc are likely to be there legitimately because they fall under the open source licence.

Which you did. And we thank you for that. :)
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Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 07:07 AM »
^Sad day.  :(
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 24, 2014, 06:57 AM »
Google Wave was a (half-hearted) attempt. And it got got flamed down, before it even got a chance to come to fruition.

In fairness, Waves (like Chandler) struck me as fairly half-baked concept that was rather vague about exactly what it was supposed to be. And both Products included "features" and requirements that the users had made clear they didn't care for. Those objections from the users were mostly ignored since the devs too obviously had their own agenda.

So much for opt-in and tit-for-tat, right? That's a sure formula for failure with something that requires hordes of enthusiastic supporters to be successful.
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Circle Dock / Re: Version 1.55 - a Significant Release: Please Read Carefully
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 10:33 PM »
Sorry to dredge this all up again. But I think it's important to not have people get the wrong impression of what went down. And although I'm possibly the biggest F/OSS advocate and cheerleader here at DoCo, I get no pleasure seeing somebody walk away who feels (correctly or incorrectly) that they've just been screwed over royally by the GPL. Because, with something like the F/OSS movement - which is entirely dependent on trust and goodwill to accomplish its goals -  hard feelings can't benefit anybody.

No... glad that you put this here, because I couldn't speak to it.  But I do remember it was one of the things that made me realize I'd never work on, nor release software under the GPL.

Nothing wrong with that. The beginning of all wisdom is understanding precisely what you're getting yourself into.

GPL isn't for everyone - or every coding project. Since it stands everything most developers think of on its head, it's extremely important to understand exactly what is is and why it exists.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: GPL is the embodiment of a software development philosophy - it is NOT a business model.

 8)
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 10:18 PM »
The general public at large does not care about privacy or security on any large scale at all.

Nor should they have to IMHO. That's what responsible professionals in our field exist for.


People don't care until something happens that personally affects them in an adverse way.

See above.

I could detail a laundry list of thing that people do every single day without giving a second thought to the security and privacy they are giving up.

To be honest, that's their prerogative. We attempt to educate as best we can. If we warn, and we're ignored, that's the limit of the responsibilities we can be expected to assume. After that, since we're professionals, it's just more billable time for us. ;) 8)

But we're not out to save the world here. Nor are we trying to come up with the "perfect" solution. We're just looking to make things significantly better than they are now. "Pretty good" will do for a start.
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 10:06 PM »
Just to clarify a few of my earlier points:

  • "Chat" or "text" is being used more as a metaphor; or an exhortation to do things differently. It's not an argument that adapting chat or text is the only - or even a desirable approach to take to fix the problem.
  • We need to think outside the box here. We don't want something else. We need something new.

 8)
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Circle Dock / Re: Version 1.55 - a Significant Release: Please Read Carefully
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 09:52 PM »
From what I understand, Markham completely rewrote it (in which case it wouldn't be covered) and people accused him of just using the original source without viable proof, and that's what caused the whole meltdown.  Better without proof of wrongdoing to leave it in the past.

IIRC the problem came down to the fact Markham had rewritten (or written) about 90% of the current version(s) code and was annoyed that other developers (far less ethical) had appropriated the original codebase - plus his own rather significant contributions - and were selling it as their own closed-source commercial product.

Because he was quite understandably angered by this, he asked why he should be subject to the rules of the GPL - when others didn't seem to be.

When he went to assert a GPL violation however, he discovered that only the original programmer who licensed the project under the GPL could appeal to the OSF for intervention and assistance. And Markham was unsuccessful, despite exerting a great deal of personal effort, to contact the original programmer Eric Wong.

Being now caught in a no-win situation, Markham next announced he would just re-write that last 10% of original code so that it was now all his own work. And further, that the resulting app would be released - and sold - as your usual closed-source commercially licensed program.

That's when the tomatoes hit the fan.

There was the argument that since Markham had done work on a GPLed project, both the original code, and all his subsequent contributions, were bound by the rules of GPL. And that all his coding contributions - up to that point - would still need to remain open-sourced and under GPL regardless of what he decided to do subsequently. Because once something is released under GPL, that license specifically disallows any attempts to rescind or "un-GPL' something.

GPL is a "one-way" street. Once code is GPLed - it's GPLed forever. Otherwise there's nothing to stop an unscrupulous developer from benefiting from the open-source movement - then taking all the free contributions of others - and running off with them. Or even worse, to code something which becomes an established standard app (e.g. MySQL, Apache, GCC, etc.), and then pull the rug out from under all the users by suddenly declaring they now have to license it commercially, and pay whatever the developer decides to charge, if they want to continue using it.

The important thing to understand here is that the GPL is primarily designed to protect the user - not the developer - although it does do that to a lesser extent as well.

In Markham's case, it was true that (strictly speaking) everything he had done up to that point needed to remain available as open-source and under GPL. However, here's where what angered him about what others were doing now worked to his advantage. Only the original coder who released the original app under the GPL could assert a claim against Mr. Markham.

Was Markham ethically bound?

Yes he was.

Would anything happen if he didn't abide by the rules of GPL?

Nope. Nada. Not unless Eric Wong reappeared from wherever he vanished to and filed a complaint with the OSF

But there was an escape hatch. And AFAIK that's the one Markham took. Because while he couldn't un-GPL what was done, neither was he was under any obligation to support CircleDock - or make its source code available at his own expense. He could simply dump and abandon it on GitHub or SourceForge and walk away. And he was also under no obligation to provide an executable. GPL says that only the source code needs to remain open and free to use. It does not say you must also provide a finished and ready to install program or binary. And my understanding is that dumping and walking away is exactly what Markham did.

Then he went off to do a commercial version of his own, which included rewriting that last bit of original code, so that all the code he was now using in his commercial app was completely his own work.

Right? Wrong?

I'm pretty much on Markham's side if he did in fact do the dump and abandon route. If he didn't, I don't feel it's my place (as someone who didn't contribute any code) to comment one way or the other. That's Eric Wong's prerogative. Not mine.

Sorry to dredge this all up again. But I think it's important to not have people get the wrong impression of what went down. And although I'm possibly the biggest F/OSS advocate and cheerleader here at DoCo, I get no pleasure seeing somebody walk away who feels (correctly or incorrectly) that they've just been screwed over royally by the GPL. Because, with something like the F/OSS movement - which is entirely dependent on trust and goodwill to accomplish its goals -  hard feelings can't benefit anybody.

Just my :two:
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Living Room / Re: Are you a DeadHead? Grateful Dead thoughts go here.
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 06:33 PM »
I've been to, and have friends who are, but I never "drank the Kool-Aid" and "joined together in the band." It was always just a little too blissfully carefree and non-intellectual to appeal to me for more than a half-day at a time. However, on a positive note, many of ladies in attendance were certainly pretty and...um...friendly enough.

I think a lot of it was a phenomena of the times the Dead were decanted in. They were the distillation of several societal trends and experiments of the late 60s and early 70s. And hallucinogens may have been a significant part of it - being the communal sacramental metaphor so to speak. But that doesn't explain it all. Drugs were also a large part of the short-lived "rave" culture. And that didn't spawn what is effectively a quasi-nomadic church like the Dead did.

What I really think the Dead provided was a sense of community during a time when the entire notion of 'community' seemed to be in full retreat. Now there's a new generation, which is more comfortable living in an electronic cocoon than their elders ever were (or likely ever will be) and who don't seem to have that need. Or if they do, it's a for very different species of 'community' than any that existed (or was able to exist) before the advent of Internet.

The internet changed everything. On a very profound and personal level. So much so, that the basic notion of what it means to be a 'human' being living in 'human' society is very different - and more importantly, uniquely different - than it has ever been before.

Have the Dead outlived their time? Not so long as there are believers. But like the Egyptian deities, once the last believer has gone to their eternal reward, or punishment, or next stage of existence, or perhaps just simple oblivion, the Dead will likely fade into history, then become legend, and then become myth -as Galadriel observed all things must, in Lord of the Rings.

       We now return our souls to the creator,
        as we stand on the edge of eternal darkness.
        Let our chant fill the void
        in order that others may know.
        In the land of the night
        the ship of the sun
        is drawn by the grateful dead."          
  
                       -- Egyptian Book of the Dead


What a long strange trip it's been. 8)
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Living Room / Re: What are your favorite movies?
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 05:55 PM »
i've watched Gosford park.

I did too. Terrific movie! :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:

I want to go back and rewatch Chinatown.

An absolute classic - and without a happy ending. That took guts. And also made it the film it is. :Thmbsup: :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: What are your favorite movies?
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 01:29 PM »
For the Holidays I'll toss in two of my favs. Both with Kate Hepburn. One of my favorite ladies of the silver screen.

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One film most definitely Christ-missy and (unusually) computer geeky is Desk Set. Hepburn as a company reference librarian (Anybody besides me remember those?) and Spencer Tracy, the computer whiz "methods engineer" who is overseeing the installation of several hulking room-sized IBM mainframes (then referred to as "electronic brains") in the NYC TV Network headquarters where Hepburn is working. Great back & forth dialogue, including a few rather risqué (for the times) moments.
One classic exchange here

(Both characters are sitting on floor between the book stacks, half in the bag, and killing a bottle of Christmas Party champagne.)

Hepburn: Tell me, skipper,
why have you never married?
Don't you like women?


Tracy: Oh, yeah. Sure, sure. I like women,
specifically as a sex and specifically.


Hepburn: But not "pacifically"
enough to get married.


Tracy: Oh, no, no. That's not it at all.
I just never found anyone willing to put
up with me. Except Caroline, of course.
- Would you like more champagne?


Hepburn: No. What about "Caroline, of course?"


Tracy: Caroline?... Caroline was a model.


Hepburn: Mm-hmm.


Tracy:  5'9" in her stockinged feet.


Hepburn: You had occasion to measure her?


Tracy: Among other things.


Especially good is the dinner scene in Hepburn's apartment. IMO it's one of the best comedic moments to come out of that era of movie making.

Next up is the 1938 film Bringing Up Baby featuring Hepburn and Cary Grant this time out.

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The then 30-year old Hepburn plays a drop-dead gorgeous society heiress and full-time screwball. Grant plays a stuffy and overly serious palaeontologist chasing high-society money for his brontosaurus research project. The bulk of the picture takes place in a fictitious Connecticut "country home." Although a commercial miss when it was first released (as was The Wizard of Oz), it has since gone on to be considered a classic piece of comedy. Silly, stupid, and surprisingly enjoyable.

Recommended. :Thmbsup:



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Circle Dock / Re: Version 1.55 - a Significant Release: Please Read Carefully
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 08:48 AM »
^Hey it's sgtevmckay! Howdy stranger! Long time no see. Happy Holidays! :Thmbsup:

Suggestion: your main wiki is pointing people back to DoCo for tech support. You might also want to think about what you want to do with that too.
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 07:53 AM »
Opt-in combined with a non-confrontational and measured tit-for-tat game strategy! It's a very powerful and attractive concept once you start thinking along those lines. 8)

All very good points.  I'm assuming also that since media connects to an unknown resource, it would be media unfriendly?  And what about attachments and such?

Haven't a clue at this point. Anybody out there care to suggest something?
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 23, 2014, 07:32 AM »
There goes most support desk software and the best monitoring & training mechanism for support desk personnel. Without being able to import requester messages into a system, pass those messages between agents, keep a permanent, searchable log of all incoming messages and their responses, tying those individual conversations to customer accounts, etc. a lot of what support desk agents do via things like Zendesk, will not be possible.

Very good point! But I think this may be an example of a boundary situation that wouldn't affect most users.

However...

In this scenario, I don't think it would be unreasonable for a tech support agent to briefly explain why a message would need to be retained - and request that the sender turn off any blocks on message retention. That's no different than "your call may be monitored" when doing it by phone.

You could also employ tit-for-tat (after briefly explaining why message retention is so important) by saying that the ability to retain and use the message to provide better quality service, now, and  in the future is a condition of receiving tech support via e-mail. (Whether or not that's a genuinely valid argument I'll leave for another time. There's an awful lot of ingrained "we need to save everything" habits we're up against here. Just look at the NSA!) Doing it this way clearly defines and negotiates the "what" and "why" in an interaction. Something that is too often assumed - or decided unilaterally.

Most
people (from my experience) are quite reasonable when given good reasons. The key factor here is "good reasons" rather than the more common and rather obnoxious: "I'm sorry you feel that way, but that's OUR policy!" sort of response we receive far too often. (note: while "Because I said so!" may be an appropriate response to a petulant child, it's a demeaning and insulting thing to say to the average adult. One way to reduce childish behavior is to stop treating adults like they're children. And to also stop acting like children ourselves.)

This sort of courtesy and rapid negotiation leaves both sides in control of how they want to handle their interaction. No different than how we do things F2F dozens of times a day. Why should e-mail or texting be any different?  (note: This may also help reduce some of those Jekyl/Hyde behaviors some people display when communicating electronically.)

Opt-in plus tit-for-tat. It's a wonderful thing. Add in courtesy and we're setting the stage for a new Golden Age of e-communication.  ;D :Thmbsup:
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 22, 2014, 05:32 PM »
What else?

How about an option to totally disable the receiver from saving the message?

"This message will self-destruct in 5 minutes" (or upon closing).

Sounds good. But in order to make it more equitable for both sides I'd like it more if such a message announced itself as being a read-once message and then ask the receiver if they wish to accept or reject that condition. That keeps everything on an opt-in basis. If the receiver accepts, it works as the sender specifies. If the receiver rejects that restriction, it bounces back to the sender with a notification that "the intended receiver of your message did not agree to your read-once provision and has elected not to receive your message as sent."

Sort of like what sometimes happens when you block your phone's caller-ID. Some phone numbers (mine for one) will play a message that says my phone does not accept calls from parties that have blocked their caller-ID. It then suggests the caller temporarily unblock their caller-ID and try again.

Opt-in combined with a non-confrontational and measured tit-for-tat game strategy! It's a very powerful and attractive concept once you start thinking along those lines. 8)

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Circle Dock / Re: Version 1.55 - a Significant Release: Please Read Carefully
« Last post by 40hz on December 22, 2014, 03:05 PM »
So where is it?? I tried to access the original thread you mentioned here but I got an error message.


...The download is available, as always, from this topic.

Mark


Try looking here at SourceForge. Please note it was last updated in 2012 on SourceForge and it's still listed as an alpha. Version 0.92alpha8.2 to be precise. I'm guessing it's been orphaned.

Always best to check the dates on the post you're responding to. The one you're quoting is from March 2010. It's nearly 5 years since there's been anything posted in this thread.

Hope this was of help. :)
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 22, 2014, 01:58 PM »
Just the nature of the beast- if it is connected to the internet, it is with certainty hackable.

True. In a purely mathematical model. But there are possibilities for success, and there are likelihoods of success. To reduce the liklihood of success to the point of where it statistically borders on the impossible is certainly attainable. Single-use cypher pads have already come very close to that ideal.

Even if it had been a message carried over the bitcoin blockchain, a hacker could have compromised the private key of an endpoint and still leaked that same message.

Agree. The chain is only as strong as the weakest link. That's the real challenge here. How to make that weakest link incredibly strong.

I'm guessing some mechanism, whereby 'people' are removed from certain parts of the equation, is where it will need to go. With humans out of the picture in certain key areas, a major source of weakness is removed. It's no longer so much a "people problem" (i.e. insoluble) if there aren't people left in. QED.  ;)
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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 22, 2014, 01:21 PM »
ts also a legal problem. Strictly speaking you are required by law to keep record somewhere somehow of all company internal written communications as much as is practical. At least in my understanding of business law anyway- I've seen quite a few cases where the courts order a company to present such.

Thus they were legally obligated to keep that information on record becase on the off chance they got investigated, it could be held as evidence in the courtroom and whoever was involved would be effectively screwed by the discovery of its contents.

Depends on the jurisdiction I think. Here it only applies to "covered" communications. Many US corporations are now operating on a minimal retention policy. They only retain as much and as long as the law requires. With the exception of regulated securities-related communications; and tax documents and/or communications with government revenue services - which I have been told need to (or should be) be retained indefinitely.

Many companies have discovered that the old exhortation to "keep copies of everything to CYA" often backfires and makes much to be discovered in the event of a lawsuit or investigation.

There actually are recommended "retention schedules" issued by the government that cover most business documents and communications. Very few items on those schedules fall under the "retain indefinitely" category.

The trick is to religiously follow whatever schedule you adopt. If you claim you rigorously purge all internal memos every three years, you can't keep some and later destroy them if they're subpoenaed, citing your policy and stating they're "more than three years old." That's obstruction and destroying evidence. And it can also create the appearance your policy was specifically designed to impede and evade the law. Judges here don't usually like that very much.

My understanding is it's still a fairly open question here however. The current "best practice" to minimize "legal exposure" seems to be (got this from an attorney) to retain only what you absolutely must by law, and generally try to get rid of everything else as soon as is practically possible.

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Living Room / Re: For better security, maybe it's time to abandon e-mail?
« Last post by 40hz on December 22, 2014, 12:42 PM »
Just for conversation's sake... what would that look like from the abstract?  Maybe we can hash it out?  Any thoughts?

My requirements for adoption are simple.  Not real-time, and not brief form- though it would support almost real-time and brief form communications.

So far we have:

  • not real-time - but timely
  • not restricted to brief form

I'll add:

  • fully decentralized - no persistent servers or trackers
  • non-logging protocol
  • encrypted end-to-end, with primary encryption done on the local machine -
    (note: additional encryption layers may also be added further down the chain)
  • some type of "trust" mechanism between peers to minimize risk of "man in the middle" attack vector
    which ideally would also serve to identify "poison" peers
  • mechanism to identify tampering attempts with messages
  • integral tombstone/self-destruct mechanism available for all messages with "delete after reading" as the default. "Save this message?" must be specifically invoked (a simple push button, check box, or right-click will do) for each message in order for it to be retained.
  • to preserve message store security, encryption is "always on." Messages are only in an unencrypted state when being displayed. Unopened messages are left encrypted. Saved messages are automatically re-encrypted on close. Deleted message are zero overwritten in background.


What else?

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