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Living Room / Re: Sony's special screw will make your everyday screws blush in shame!
« Last post by Darwin on May 28, 2007, 03:36 PM »I think app just closed out the thread! How can anyone top that?!



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I find it indispensable as well. I keep finding myself double-clicking to no avail on computers without DOpus.-cemole (May 28, 2007, 05:07 AM)
It doesn't coexist very well with Directory Opus either (double-click for a new lister, for example, didn't work).
Nice one Grorgy. Sadly, I think the cartoonist has really summed things up in my case-Darwin (May 23, 2007, 09:52 AM)
What do you mean, in your case?-Armando (May 26, 2007, 06:39 PM)

it is a BASIC right to copy/modify/run software as you wish, because software is NOT property, software = ideas and creativity, and limiting ideas and creativity with ownership is always a bad idea. That is the ethical truth.Sorry, but your basic premise is not correct. Software is not just the idea, it is also the work and talent to make that idea work. Talent should always be rewarded. Paying people for the software that results from ideas and creativity does not stifle that creativity, working at mcDonalds does.
Paying for software should be done out of sympathy, goodwill, brotherhood with the developer, not because you have to, just to have the 'privilege' to use the software.-Gothi[c] (May 26, 2007, 03:09 AM)-thomthowolf (May 26, 2007, 12:40 PM)
The discount does not get applied until checkout, so don't worry that the full price is listed on the landing page there - you should see the discount once you press the "Check Out" button.
The links are still working for the discounts but they have changed the price to $19.99 (USD) / £14.99 (UKP)-Carol Haynes (May 26, 2007, 10:28 AM)
) Clevercat, I'd try the "make us an offer" site at Ashampoo (can't find it right now; often I can get to it via the special offers link from the Help menu, although at the moment it's offering me ClipFind instead) - start at $4.99 and work your way up. I'd bet they'll take something in the $7.99 range, but it would be worth starting low... Just a thought..."Verily, verily, I say; let not your right hand know what your left is doing" - the Bible says about giving money-gifts to the church. Maybe MS got the occasion wrong.

You're right; looking at it, I think I must have misunderstood your post. I had just read through all the posts up to that point and replied to yours as the last one I read. Sorry if I sounded as if I was aiming it at you! Though I think I had thought you were trying to justify -- to an extent, even if only a mild extent -- the appropriateness of stealing software based solely on its cost. Sorry! Didn't mean to "preach" at you, Darwin!
I've highlighted a key word or two in my original quote: you and I, as far as I can tell, aren't as far apart as you apparently think! I guess my choice of the word "respect" was unfortunate... Equally unfortunate is that I can't think of a better one right now. I was trying to say that if one is going to make a case for stealing, surely they could come with something better than "the product sucks, so it's ok to steal it". At least saying the you steal because you find the price more than you can bear is... stumped again, but how about: understandable?-Darwin (May 25, 2007, 04:32 PM)-J-Mac (May 26, 2007, 01:15 AM)
Is anyone else reminded of gri in this?-Josh (May 25, 2007, 10:50 PM)

Regarding my earlier post and the quote that I made in it, I can even respect, even if I don't agree with, an argument about ripping off Microsoft or Adobe because their stuff is too expensive. However, stating that you rip a company off because their products suck is ridiculous! How many car thieves target rusted and clapped out non-exotic cars?
This is where I differ: Just because a company's products are too expensive, I don't feel I have any right whatsoever to steal the product. If I did feel that way about, say, Chevrolet, I wouldn't think to steal a Chevy to "get back" at them!
I either pay up and grumble like everyone else, or I make do with alternative applications. But I won't steal them.
Jim