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« Last post by Stoic Joker on April 30, 2010, 05:27 PM »Glad you're enjoying it - and once again Thank You for letting me know the site had gone poof!
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...Depending on who got ahold of it. You say you could do a great deal with it - Okay... - At what age? The one you are now, or the one you were in 1975? (It's a gamble on my part, you could be in your 60s now...If you had given a *working* computer to me in 1975, I could have figured out quite a few things without an OS. Give it to someone with a lab and degree... yeah. You don't need an OS to learn quite a bit from the computer. I guarantee if you'd give something like this to IBM the landscape when you got back to 2010 would be a *lot* different. I'm not saying it would be instantaneous, but...So if you take a computer today and take it back to 1975 it would be worth nothing? Yeah... I'd like to see that. Even without the OS, it would still be worth quite a bit,Once again to whom? Back in 75 there was what maybe a dozen or so engineers that would have had a clue what they were looking at - To anyone else on the planet it's a doorstop.-wraith808 (April 30, 2010, 02:14 PM)-Stoic Joker (April 30, 2010, 03:30 PM)-wraith808 (April 30, 2010, 03:48 PM)
-Legal fees = a vacuum.Gizmodo makes money from traffic. You don't think that this story boosted their traffic? Therefore boost in traffic = money = profit on $5k.Gizmodo made more than the $5k on the phone, and the person that sold it made more than the $100 that is speculated. If it wasn't worth more than $100 how do you explain that? But I suppose that makes no difference in calculating worth?
Gizmodo Made money on the phone? I thought they paid $5k for the phone - or did Apple reimburse them the finders fee + gratuity?
-Stoic Joker (April 30, 2010, 03:30 PM)
Accountable for what? Depriving Lord Jobs of a teensy weensy little spark from his next over-the-top release worship revival light show? If they actually had a product... other than their immense marketing hype inducer machine, this would be a total non-issue.All we really have here is a bully (Apple) that's gone crying to the (Fuzz) teacher because they got their bluff called. They got their silly damn phone back - everybody's even - let it go. There's just no profit in destroying Chan's poor ass.-Stoic Joker (April 30, 2010, 03:30 PM)
There's a certain thing called a deterrent. Gawker was warned about this when they *put* out the bounty, and they were able to get hardware from the bounty after being warned... I wouldn't mind at all seeing them fry. I don't agree with the tactics of the police, but I do think they need to be held accountable.
So if you take a computer today and take it back to 1975 it would be worth nothing? Yeah... I'd like to see that. Even without the OS, it would still be worth quite a bit,Once again to whom? Back in 75 there was what maybe a dozen or so engineers that would have had a clue what they were looking at - To anyone else on the planet it's a doorstop.-wraith808 (April 30, 2010, 02:14 PM)
and thinking that it wouldn't be makes me see that perhaps I should bow out of this conversation.That'd make for a dull afternoon...
It's quite obvious that *even without the OS* a next generation iPhone is worth more than $100 intrinsically.
Gizmodo made more than the $5k on the phone, and the person that sold it made more than the $100 that is speculated. If it wasn't worth more than $100 how do you explain that? But I suppose that makes no difference in calculating worth?
Gizmodo Made money on the phone? I thought they paid $5k for the phone - or did Apple reimburse them the finders fee + gratuity? And as a BTW, I know for a *fact* that my Volvo will crank without the Central Electric Module installed and working- because I've had to do it before. Just as the iPhone without the OS still starts. The hardware does indeed work... you just have to replace the software.
Hm... So you would consider a car to be working - Even if it did not have an engine - Just because you could toss one in it?
This car would viably be considered "working" by whom exactly?-Stoic Joker (April 30, 2010, 01:06 PM)
Not an equitable comparison.-wraith808 (April 30, 2010, 01:09 PM)
We're talking software and hardware... and an engine is definitely hardware.
It's more like does a car run without the software installed. It might not run correctly and be usable, but for sure it does run.
And by those definitions is *still* not appreciably devalued for the lack as it can be replaced easily enough.Once again, by whom?
OTOH, after (presumably) some digging around it was thought taking to Gizmodo. They paid $5000. $5000 is more than $100. Except they were really paying for their expectation of a big scoop and not the phone itself since they expected to return that to owner after checking what it actually was and publishing.-Dormouse (April 30, 2010, 07:45 AM)
And the beat goes on:
http://www.betanews....y-piggies/1272486094
Some very interesting statistics in that Betanews article.-JavaJones (April 28, 2010, 04:25 PM)
It was AFTER Gizmodo returned the phone that the police ransacked Jason's house.Very interesting - I did not know that part.-Renegade (April 28, 2010, 06:04 AM)
Apple is despicable. They are a petty, vindictive, sinister, secretive, closed, greedy, back-stabbing, disgraceful and evil company.
@IainB: At last, the solution. I'm all four that!-cranioscopical (April 23, 2010, 01:42 PM)
One of the reasons that bit.ly is in such widespread use isPeople are lazy, and deluded into thinking security is the other guys problem. Regardless of how chronically incredibly dangerous this practice is ~OMG~ it's Fun! - Because the whole point of the internet is FaceBook, marketing & vanity...-wraith808 (April 19, 2010, 10:13 AM)
i don't know.. that open letter is not so much about apple opening up its products/APIs/etc., it seems more about people wanting press access.-mouser (April 18, 2010, 08:40 AM)
Why not do something like Experts-Exchange.com? Question is asked->discussion ensues->answer is found - and then marked (boldly) as Accepted Answer. That post also gets a different title bar color so it's easy to scroll to if you just need a quick answer.I think the model works fantastically for what they use it for, for focused question+answers by experts. But we are much more conversational here, so i'm not sure it would be a good match.. and i don't know how you could combine them.-mouser (April 15, 2010, 03:10 PM)
I think the "combine them" is the holy grail part...
It's been widely discussed here that having one medium (forum) is not necessarily the best fit for all the different things that DC do. Some of the question and answer posts would definitely fit better where a subsequent viewer can jump to the best answer... or read them all if they want.
What's the best xxx get out of date so quickly sometimes.
But if it's not possible to combine, then maybe it's best to live with the restrictions to maintain our conversational tone?-Perry Mowbray (April 15, 2010, 06:35 PM)
Normally I hook up to Windows systems. And to manage those I use the MS RDP protocol, it is faster and more stable than whatever edition from VNC offers. Whatever I have to do locally on those machines is done with their standard explorer...again speed and stability.I'll 2nd that.-Shades (April 14, 2010, 07:36 PM)
Edit:[/b] I forgot to ask -- I found this Global Atom Viewer but it appears to be a Japanese application. It seems to be handy when doing RegisterHotKey-related things. Do you know of anything similar in English?-ewemoa (April 14, 2010, 12:40 AM)
Tangential note...The Windows keys do not work reliably because they're a reserved System Key.I was just reading about RegisterHotKey:-Stoic Joker (April 07, 2010, 05:40 PM)-ewemoa (April 13, 2010, 08:55 PM)
The F12 key is reserved for use by the debugger at all times, so it should not be registered as a hot key. Even when you are not debugging an application, F12 is reserved in case a kernel-mode debugger or a just-in-time debugger is resident.I noticed that the latest T-Clock 2010 doesn't allow F12 to be registered
BTW, do you know of a good list of reserved keys? What I've found so far is:
http://www.aquariuss...indows-shortcuts.asp
