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526
Hi,

Tonight, for a few more hours. 

My registration is still good from the earlier Boot-It Next Generation from a March, 2010.
So that is a sign of good company policy, not just a new release, a new name, almost 2 years, and my download and
registration is updated to the new product.

Although I do not do a lot in this area, and for simple stuff there are various freebie Windows Partition managers
from Paragon and Easeus and others, Terabytes has a great rep.   You like to have a good forum and support
area if you are puzzling out in the partition and boot area.  (I do not do a lot of imaging, except right after OS install.)

BootIt Bare Metal
http://www.bitsdujou...e/bootit-bare-metal/

Steven
527
Hi,

Generally speaking I will use them together.  This may duplicate some warnings in the Professional Chameleon (the freebie does not do that warning stuff) .. I tend to not mind dup warnings, anyway.  In fact, I think I may have Anvir giving warnings on one puter or user as well. (To be fair, it seems to do so in rather a pleasant and informative manner.)  Sometimes I may let one product drift off of current usage.

I do consider WinPatrol and Chameleon as reasonably complimentary.  WinPatrol is heavily oriented to security and ferreting out all possible startup problems .. Chameleon (and also Metaproducts Startup Organizer, which does do warnings in an interesting manner where it puts all the changes in one box if it has been asleep for awhile, quite impressive) is more designed to user experience enhancements, simple visibilities, changes to startup, configurations, delays, etc.   Plus Evgeni's person support and pleasantness behind the product.

On the whole, Startup is a high priority security area, so I do not mind  a bit of extra, even redundant, visibility and coverage, (You do not make too many changes a day anyway, so redundancy is not a real problem.) I do not get into all the shadow and imaging and restoring stuff, I simply like my puter to be running good and I try to remember to save the data externally if something goes wrong, and I keep early images only.  The last few years have been thankfully mostly trouble-free, using layered security.

Note: I am not really encouraging more than one, I am just saying it works fine, it is not like anti-virus and task priority or shadow/virtual systems and many other areas where the playground gets messy. Overall, I do think that startup is underrated in terms of security visibility and significance and that it rates right with firewall and browser care (security is hard to make into categories, HIPS, anti-virus, etc.) Only the dedicated startup programs really understand how it works and the security suites are dubious in this area.

Bill at WinPatrol makes startup security his key, even looking at things like "IE Helpers" and the Windows Scheduler and secret and difficult hiding places floating around the registry or wherever, always looking for the latest baddie methods. (Evgeni origiinally did not do services, and has it in the new task manager product, so you would need both startup and task for the more complete Evgeni support). The biggest concern is that it is hard for these, even in pro versions, to be "zero-moment" protection, against the type of malware that forces an immediate reboot. That is why you have to have good internet and .exe sense.

Overall, I do recommend going "professional" in one of the better programs and would never recommend a happy WinPatrol user to do a replacement ... security trumps startup ease and I do not place any other program quite up there with WinPatrol in that category.

As to security warnings, I will say that (this is not startup) MBAM - Malwarwebytes - seems to give some of the very best HIPS-oriented, I only noted that it can be, at times, a CPU hog.  I am talking about the realtime mode, which I have played with the last months after some deal, rather than just on-demand scanning.

Steven
528
And I actually went ahead with the Chameleon Startup Manager, which was also on sale, and I have been using the freebie. Nice product, and Evengi has always been ace.  It is a bit harder to justify the Task Manager, even at $15, since so much of the special functionality is in the overlap area of Process Lasso and Process Tamer, which are more specialized tools and it is an area where multiple tools can conflict ... so I passed on it for now.

Steven
529
Hi

From freeware genius, announcement of a freebie of iCare Data Recovery, a place where it is good to have more than one program pre-installed

Cyber Tuesday GiveAway: iCare Data Recovery Professional
http://www.freewareg...reewaregenius.com%29

Dunno how many more hours this will be on, Asian Pacific time x the square root of pi logarithimcally divided by Comet Elenin.

The freewaregenius link goes here:

24HR. CYBER TUESDAY SPECIAL GIVEAWAY - Only On Nov 29 (Asia Pacific Time)
http://www.icare-rec...ry-professional.html

Very simple install and registration.  I had one from GAOTD that had a registration problem and uninstalled that first, it left very little on the disk, ie. it was well-behaved per Revo.

Even their free version was rated quite well here, in what looks like a solid mini-discussion:
http://tricks-collec...ecover-deleted-file/

(Their program line-up is a bit hard to figger out, but this freebie looks like the solid "Pro" version.)

Two thoughts:

1) have a program or two pre-installed, ready, like iCare and Recuva

2) for really big OS/File problems, switch to a Linux-style Rescue boot anyway, with utilities for file movement and recovery on the CD, so you are working under the OS covers.

Steven
530
Hi Folks,

Wishing u all a good giving of thanks today.

====

Bits extended the Swift To-Do.
http://www.bitsdujou...ft-to-do-list-7-new/

I put some longish comments in the thread. Overall, I can see this being used a lot (much like ListPro became a keeper) as it is really something different than Task Coach and AbstractSpoons ToDoList.  Things like drag-and-drop, sub-tasks, and printing and notes have been implemented well, as well as a pleasant design and a multi-PC sync Beta.

The ToDo field has sort of fallen by the wayside, sometimes being an offshoot of a PIM (Time & Chaos used to give it a nice try, Essential PIM and Ultra Recall and others today).  Or a Note program.

However, it really seems to have a place as its own metaphor, with some reminder and calendar as an outgrowth.

ListPro and Swift are very different (ListPro excels in customized database-style columns, Swift excels in visuals, ease-of-use, printing etc) and I can see both having a place.  e.g. Custom lists of financial this and groupons and software serial #s and such  go to ListPro, general ToDo with priority, assignments, printing, etc. goes to Swift. A smidgen of overlap, but not that much.

Swift only works because I sort of trust that the developer is improving (granted, he was one of those who messed up on the lifetime licenses, I gather) and supporting well, although no forum.  And the alternatives of friendly ToDo are largely stagnant.

This is not an easy no-brainer, since I will go for the 3-PC pro at $45, but it gives the sense of becoming a keeper.

Steven
531
Hi Folks,

Has anybody compared to the tree-note programs (especially RightNote and TreedbNotes. The latter has a forum.)  Is there any real difference in using one or the other as an outliner (perhaps number of levels of the tree ? Use of screen real estate ? export ?). Any big gains or lacks.  (I think all three programs combine the Explorer style with the tab style, other note programs as well .. I consider this the basic need these days).

I did not get around to installing, but if it has positive feedback (e.g. better for writing articles because of some outline advantages) I will try .. and if very good write the author for an extension discount.  

On the other hand, if the note programs have better editing and advanced features, without ActionOutline having real pluses, then I will not download and test ActionOutline. 

I could not find much in the way of lauding or criticism on the Net.  It appears to be, at least, a good program. Is it an excellent program ? Why, or why not ?

One plus of AO is a new feature "custom font styles and colors!" in the outline/explorer section.  This is a good feature, that I do not remember seeing in the others. The drabness and lack of visual aid in the Explorer section is often a hindrance. (Biggest need in ListPro also, along with tabs. I would say that this feature should generally be indicated in reviews of programs.)

The version one-year update issue does not bother me much, as long as the program retains full functionality and the price today can be kept around $20.

Shalom,
Steven Avery
532
Living Room / Re: Moving up to ESET NOD32 v5
« Last post by Steven Avery on November 17, 2011, 01:54 AM »
Hi,

The problem with MSE is 2-fold.  It is the target that baddies will most want to foil. Also, Microsoft has a mediocre track record on zero-day happenings (new exploits that need immediate protection update).  This problem is reduced though if you tend to work with overlapping security stuff (like Mamutu or a firewall that has decent HIPS, like Online Armor).

I agree that all the alternatives have ups and downs, but I am reluctant to rely on MS for those two reasons, even if they got the basics right.  So MSE is acceptable, but not fantastico.

Steven
533
Hi Folks,

For getting OCR from screenshots (e.g. Google book sections) remember that there is a superb product that costs about $10, Abbyy Screenshot Reader.  Having used it for a year or three, it is very hard to imagine switching to a less functional freeware alternative. 

The cloud realm is interesting, too, I simply have not had to bother with that.

Shalom,
Steven
534
Found Deals and Discounts / Re: Dr Explain 60% OFF
« Last post by Steven Avery on November 02, 2011, 10:08 AM »
Hi,

Well at least the Dr. was a true gentleman in response, unlike most doctors :) .  I cannot tell whether your difficulties might have had some unique aspects that they could address (faults they missed) or whether they are fully endemic and render the product worthless for most all.

However, I will compliment the Tude of the Doc.  This is not a criticism of your posts, since you are just trying to help the company or potential buyers to know what is up.

Steven
535
Living Room / Steve Jobs - in memoriam
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 30, 2011, 07:38 PM »
Hi Folks,

My dad ripped off the junk the nurses put on him at the hospital, and walked out, and although he did not suggest design improvements, I will sympathize with Steven Jobs on that one.  (My pop is 97.)

The situation with his health program and the pancreatic cancer is complicated.  From what I understand he bypassed the more radical treatments (think Gerson therapy or Nicholas Gonzalez) .. and by going for the liver transplant he basically compromised any possibilities, because of the immune suppressing drugs that go with the transplant to prevent rejection.  

Why did he get the cancer in the first place if he was trying to eat healthy ? Difficult question. 

Shalom,
Steven Avery
536
Mini-Reviews by Members / Re: Yelp is YUCK!
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 29, 2011, 02:44 PM »
Hi Folks,

Yes, I read about their unethical practices in regards to restaurant reviews.  So I look for sites that have a better reputation, such as http://www.urbanspoon.com/ .  Also Chowhound.  I've also considered a subscription to Angie's List.  And when I complimented a puter store I did it on a Yahoo page.  Nonetheless, in some areas, if you want to compliment a vendor, Yelp still seems appropriate.

Yelp got the lead in on this review world, and they seem to have, to an extent, sold out, although they come back and give lip service to integrity at corporate.   The idea of pressuring vendors to buy advertising in order to affect the review inclusion-deletion decisions is abominable, and that seems to be one of the Yelp directions. If not officially it is done at a decentralized city and salesman level too often.  Afaik, they have not cleaned up their act, as pointed out in your post.

Shalom,
Steven

537
General Software Discussion / Re: personal favourites start page
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 28, 2011, 09:54 AM »
Hi Folks,

As a portal, Linkshelf has been quite good.  Drab, but you can set up your pages with groups and get there easily.  So let us say I posted on a topic, I add the url to a window "threads in process" and remember to get there quickly the next day. Very non-bureaucratic for self-design.  It works well with hundreds of links, but not thousands, since search is only ctrl-f for the particular page-topic (which pages I set up for Travel, Software, Bible, etc .. very distinct groupings, but as always with such structure you run into the question .. which page).  The pedigree is questionable and I have not been able to add new users (a message about cookies, whereever I try) and there is no visible communication or support ... so I am always looking for alternatives.

The closest idea of an alternative I tried is 43Marks .. here is a sample one-page app on Bible topics :
http://43marks.com/purebible

This is specialty stuff, so you may not find the links themselves of interest, the point is to show how nice a public page was set-uppable in 15-30 minutes.

43Marks handles the public-private aspect quite well.  A public one anybody can navigate to and use without a password, the password is used to modify.  Private is only seen by a signin. Very crisp.

I like their colors and simplicity of concept, however, the number of characters is a line is small, and wraparound is unaesthetic.  There are pluses and minuses.  For major personal setup use, it does not have the Linkshelf functionality.  For nice, crisp public shared and limited personal, it can be vastly superior. 

And I looked at linkagogo.  I might try to import my full linkman stash there, but for setting up structure I do not find it anywhere near as pleasant as 43Marks or as visible as Linkshelf.  As a bookmark manager it might be good, but then it has to compete with Linkman, and becomes double effort, and Linkman will always be the best in a 100 ways (speed, quickness of adding, etc.).

I'm avoiding all the ones that are social media oriented, or RSS feed, design your page to tell you the weather, etc. .. What I like is simple, my own designs for navigation on the web.

Your thoughts on this appreciated.  I like to be able to go to a foreign computer, sign in, and really feel comfortable that I can navigate to forums, major sites, etc. comfortably.

As I said, Linkshelf does the job admirably well, but with the caveats above. (As I said, I have not even been able to set up a new user for months.) Thus the search for an alternative.

================

Note: I have not gone the home-brew route.  I think  the quick-ad concern comes to mind, can you really add two new links in one minute comfortably ?  However, if anyone wants to give a mini-tutorial, listing the tools they like to use, I'll likely give it a wing.

Steven
538
Hi Folks,

Lots of file-to-file backup software function is fairly generic. Especially in the small data backups of your currently active files, which might only be 50 megabytes or even a gigabyte, rather than some massive amount.

Copy from A to B.
Have the default or option set to automatically override all B with the new A.
In other words, nothing about incremental and stuff like that, you just want to copy the current files to a USB or external or somewhere.  To be clear, there may be incremental built in, in the sense that a duplicate file is not copied, the software is intelligent in that sense, but no attempt is made to add to a file if it is different.

Backup4All is one of the better programs, yet 2 features I asked about it lacks.

flexible drive assignments ?
http://www.backup4al...ssignments-t386.html

The lack of flexible drive assignments hurts.
You never quite know if you are thinking d: or e: or what.
You should be able to design a backup and decide on the fly where it goes, or by passing a shortcut, command line parameter.   (Granted, you can go in and change the catalog fairly quickly, rather than making a duplicate, however it is so unelegant to work in that manner.)

The cloud lack is understandable, it is more a specialty, but it would be nice if your basic home USB and external drive backups also worked directly to a cloud, without tweaking. (Much like we see these days with the screen capture programs using Zuploader rather than to a local disk file.) I tend to doubt if this really exists anywhere (backup to cloud DriveHQ rather than D:) . Anyway, if any backup software has this feature, it would be nice to know.  

Another feature , where Backup4All looks ok, is the ability to choose the actual files, one by one, or a .zip compression. They call the actual files a "Mirror" backup.  This is one feature I do not want to lose.

Granted, I am probably leaving out a lot, and sometimes software has their own quirks, but I am trying to automate the basics.   Have 3 or 4 backups,  something like this:

1) all my regular data files
2) all my email
3) special critical email .mbx that I want handy even on the road.
4) the relatively complete backup (e.g. all miscellaneous except the email in (2) )

And clearly, there might be other groupings, like pictures, or web development, or this or that.  In my case the email has lots of forum stuff, and has its own dynamic, and is many gigs, that is why I approach it separately.  You might have a similar situation with music, video, pics, egtc.

Anyway, just focusing on the requirements above -- especially flexible drive assignments and "mirror" (not image) backup -- and thinking about the Cloud alternative, your ideas appreciated.

====

I will say that I like DriveHQ because, even as a cloud app, it has available for your disk a nice Total Commander type of file manager, however, afaik, it does not have an easy to set-up (like Backup4All or Syncback or Cobian) backup save-group method.  The goal here is to take care of two stones with one bird.  Sometimes, before going out, I find myself quickly dropping the current linkman file into DriveHq and taking off.  And that is with the free (50 mg a day ?) DriveHQ account which I would expand if I found they have a more sophisticated backup group method.

(Which leads to another question, maybe another post, as to where the alternatives of serving or synching data rather than copying makes sense.   My experiences so far have always been that having local data can not be beat, and other methods have problematic elements.  With the possible exception of my local network, where it looks like a file might share reasonably neat.  I think everybody plays with this stuff on a trial-and-error basis, with the emphasis on error.)

====

One little tweak about the description at top.  Some software handles these file-by-file copies differently than others, say you are copying from A to B, but B has an existing file not in A.  Does the software delete the early version in B ?  There is no automatic right or wrong, it is conceptual, if I remember some folks are upset that the Cobian default. Which, unlike some others, is to delete and have a true "mirror", but you can see that keeping the earlier files (with the earlier date available) might be superior, e.g. if you accidentally deleted a file.  So this is one other issue that I can see as important.

And of course it almost goes without saying that you would like there to be some sort of verification involved as well.

Personally, I prefer file-by-file visible non-zip backups.  Where you see what is there immediately. If you have a crash, you do a reinstall to a cleaner system, one where you do not reinstall to a possibly compromised earlier state (sluggish, virus, etc.)   With the exception of software testeers, network managers and a few other areas, I think the whole idea of rollbacks and images is way overdone, with one other exception, an early image close to the OS, so you might avoid the OS reinstall headaches involving drivers and basic install.

Steven






539
General Software Discussion / Re: SoftMaker Office 2012 BETA testing
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 26, 2011, 09:31 AM »
Hi Folks,

-no email client yet.

hmmm... us Eudora users are always looking for a long-term upgrade, as everything like Penelope and other tries remains uneasy. (Yes, there is also Thunderbird, Bat.. the DC winner ... Becky, Poco, Pegasus, Opera and Mailforge, formerly Odysseus, which desires specifically to be a Eudora replacement.)

However, I doubt that a newbie that is not an email specialist will be real sophisticated.
Anyway, when it comes out, keep us informed. 
Maybe it will be a pleasant surprise.

Shalom,
Steven
540
Living Room / Re: no power on Dell desktop
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 25, 2011, 09:30 PM »
Hi Folks,

Thanks guys.  First, I think the power supply was an issue (no light, no sound, tried multiple plugs) and it was replaced by a Staples Antec $50 by a techie at a garage sale (he had another power supply, but the cables were too short, so he put in the Antec I had in the car for an install charge that was folded into my garage sale purchases). So I saw the process, it was a warm outdoor day.  Not really apprentice-level, (ok, maybe apprentice level but not my level) .. which describes maybe a memory install.  There can be lots of little tricks and problems.  After it was installed the front light went on, the fan purred, but the system was still essentially dead.  

Meanwhile I went out and got an excellent $100 XP system from Craigslist just in case, I thought maybe the motherboard or processor was fried (not likely to be the disk, since there was no disk error msg) and my external disks do not like to be read by a Windows 7 puter.

Then I brought it into the local Korean shop, with a Spanish gal who was techie and customer service and they found that my 2 512-mg memories were shot (maybe from the surge) but my 2 2-gb were fine, the 512's were not even being used because of addressing issues on 32 bit.  They were the residue from when I upgraded the memory. They pulled out the 512s and all was fine and only charged me the $40 diagnostic fee and I wrote up the shop (Gatecom) very positively on the Yahoo review thing. Total time, 2 hours from drop off to pickup.

So learned a lot, back online, and I have a spare puter.

Shalom,
Steven
541
Found Deals and Discounts / Re: 24-Hours Giveaway - VX Search Pro
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 24, 2011, 12:46 PM »
Hi,

Got it on my Windows 7 system, I like the idea of categories (does it have a catch basin of "misc" for every file type not distinctly caught elsewhere ? ) Nice giveaway. My XP system was in transition with a crash of sorts so I was not able to get it there, well, I was busy trying to get the replacement system up and fergot to go back :) .

Also, tell us about the Premium, or High-Grade .. I only looked quickly.  Network ? Ok, I'll read the website after my systems are stabilized.

Steven
542
Living Room / no power on Dell desktop
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 22, 2011, 12:16 AM »
Hi Folks,

ok, the problem is forcing me to improve my Windows 7 puter, to make it run sensibly. 

It is a Dell Precision 380, probably occurred when there was a circuit breaker switch event.  Even though it is plugged in through some sort of surge protector (hmmm, maybe I will upgrade the quality there.).  The system has a few years, and it may be "routine maintenance" for a power supply to go ?  Is the power supply the likely event ?  No lights or noice at all, tried various plug-ins.

Best method ?  Take it into MicroCenter ?  Take it to small shop and Joe Friendly where we may chat more about stuff at the same time ?  Or do it myself, guessing that it is a "replace power supply unit" type of problem ?  Any caveats ? 

Your thoughts appreciated. 

My main concern, of course, is the data, which is not backed up daily. (Ok, I learned, I'll try to change that.)  Hopefully the disk is fine.

Shalom,
Steven
543
Found Deals and Discounts / Re: Softmaker Office 2010 discount
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 14, 2011, 11:35 PM »
Hi Folks,

The problem I have with Ashampoo is their reputation for springing toolbars. Yes, we can avoid it pretty easily, but apparently they do not take the most gracious approach, based on the Giveaway of the Day conversations.  It is sort of a matter of principle and preference, and I do have AbiWord or Atlantis or something.

Note: I do not particularly mind the Ashampoo email barrage. You can get off it, or filter it, easily.

I'll watch for the next native Softmaker option that is very low $, I think they do some stuff occasionally. Apparently the same software, just different branding. I sent a request to Softmaker about a couple of things, including the status of my existing serial number and how it would be applied.

Steven
544
Found Deals and Discounts / Re: Softmaker Office 2010 discount
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 14, 2011, 03:02 AM »
Hi Folks,

I have a serial # from a previous promotion for Softmaker 2010, but I have no idea how I could implement it.  The trial does not have a registration capability and it takes you to the website instead.  

Apparently they send you a different download than the trial after a purchase ?  And if you have not kept that hand, you have to hassle.

Clearly I could spring for the $5, but it is the principle of the thing that concerns me.

Shalom,
Steven
545
Found Deals and Discounts / Re: RoboForm 7 Desktop on BdJ today, 2011-10-04
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 06, 2011, 02:52 AM »
Hi Folks,

"Siber Systems have to adapt their product as browsers etc. change, but I don't think they've had a consistent and deliberate policy of wilful obsolescence."

However, if you do not update version 6 at all the moment that version 7 comes out, not even to match a new browser release, in the browser environment today, that is a fairly quick de facto bust.  The request of some of the users was not to enhance the products with new features, but to keep the old release functional to browsers releases, at least for a good season.  The deliberate and consistent policy of Silber appears to be to make no attempt to do that whatsoever.  When the browser and extensions busts the usage, its broke, and it ain't gonna be fixed.  (This is based mostly on reading the Bits thread.) For a product that often needs multi-puter licensing (unless you go the cloud or USB route) that is coercive by neglect.  

Granted, no developer really wants to work on the old version, and it is hard to tell if a browser change might take one hour or 50 hours to fix in an older version (we are basically talking about the one previous major release and conceivably it might have different code, or dup code, in Anywhere and Desktop and USB), and there might be some cases where you would say .. "too much hassle, sorry, we looked but this is a brand new browser, or this is a radical overhaul" .. but the knock on Silber was that they simply did not try.  That neglect does in fact give the impression of deliberate and consistent.

By contrast, there are many products that do necessary updates of earlier releases to keep them functional and operating, even if 99% of effort is on the new and current and planned.

========================

Thanks for the forms help explanation above. We can accept that RoboForm has that far more functional than anybody. For me, that might justify a small utility purchase, if there was not the upgrade and multi-user concerns. Filling out the occasional addy form is simply not a major issue, it usually occurs if I am buying something, once in a while.

Shalom,
Steven
546
Hi Folks,

Yes, I was working with the new google groups, I sort of remembered that the old one was not real competent on this, so I did not check.

Ok, let's agree on terminology. I was using embedded, inline and pasted synonymously.  What I actually (generally) do is PASTE (using Abbyy Screenshot Reader) into the email.

Your embedded sounds like a pointer to external ? Or something else.

So my google forum test (the new adventures of the new google) gave me the icon-attachment result in Google groups, which, while reasonable and superior to Yahoogroups, doesn't quite mustard-cut.

Thus the switchover to Google mail, where the picture looked "pasted" properly to the google email wall .. ie. exactly as I sent it, more or less.

Goal: (gooaaaalll) I am avoiding anything having to do with external file holders, and avoiding anything to do with attachments. 

Perhaps that is a bit clearer ? 
So from that perspective, my options right now seem to be"

1) Google mail (this could even be a direct mail, rather than through a dummy group)

2) Evernote (tests in process)

I'm actually planning a 25 email test, maybe tomorrow.  To see how it goes, and then the full project quickly.

Shalom,
Steven
547
Hi.

Ok, so Evernote I should try, if each email becomes a note ?

Then, I have one that should work, Gmail, and one to try, Evernote.

Problem reasonably solved. I'll next report back on the Evernote try.

 btw, the Yahoogroups users have been on YG to have better archiving on this aspect, without success, making an official request thread.  Not sure if Googlegroups have had discussions about replacing the attachment archiving with embedded archving when receiving such an email.

Steven
548
Found Deals and Discounts / Re: RoboForm 7 Desktop on BdJ today, 2011-10-04
« Last post by Steven Avery on October 04, 2011, 06:48 PM »
Hi Folks,

Those who use and like Roboform, please indicate how you feel it is a timesaver or security saver to you compared to either home-made (lightly coded) password security or other alternatives like Keepass.  Is it in putting in the name and address, or in allowing complex passwords that you do not know but Roboform does, or what.  

Roboform is clearly inexpensive with Bits on your main puter, but passwords have to be synched with all your puters (many of us have e.g. 2 at home and 1 at work and then we may be at a friends house or library) making the Desktop Roboform idea a bit problematic if it only licenses one puter.  And with multi-puter upgrade concerns, is any of this worth it ?

Inquiring minds.

=====================

Major security alternatives ?
a) home-grown ideas .. e.g. similar passwords kept under a code system (shh.. probably makes the pros buckle)
b) Keepass et al.

=====================

On the licensing, I would say that Roboform misled people with "Free Upgrades" when they meant a silently added "within versions" or "from 5 to 6" but probably not nefariously and we all know that many decent companies have run into similar problems. "Our New Product .. FormRobot :) .. no more RoboForm" This was combined with the fact that earlier versions were abandoned and quickly busted to browser changes and extensions. Oops.

So I would not personally dealbreak on all that ethically, but understand the concern of folks who may have gotten heavily vested on that basis, not expecting that they were being forced on an upgrade merry-go-round, likely on multi-puters, where the $ adds up.  It is a combination of gotchas.

a) optimistic wording back when then
b) quick abandonment of earlier versions
c) genre that quickly stales and breaks, making earlier versions useless
d) password programs by nature needing multi-puter (or cloud) licensing

Each one individually is understandable, multiplied together, Houston can have a problem.
Now that I have spelled it out (for myself as well) .. I think I have to pass.

Steven
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Hi,

When you enter the Evernote environment, you would navigate to the issues you want from tags, rather than by clicking a bookmark url (that you get to from tags in Linkman).

I see you can create the tags in the subject line, which is sufficient for that end.

Yes, it is an interesting idea in its own right, a lot better than many alternatives, so I will try it. However, not exactly what I am most hoping to accomplish (one email --> one url).

I have about 1000 of these emails on a topic, right now I access them in Eudora search, which is fairly capable, up to a point.  My goal is to improve it and allow access to a 3rd-party collaborator by direct url, short of a server or TeamViewer type of thing.

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I just found this note:

"I have gmail. Each email opened has a unique website address so you can return to the email using a link. "

So there is such a feature, apparently.
Research in process.

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Ok. That works.
That might be as good as I can get, it is as it is, what I need.

Set up a special Gmail account (account pw ok for collaborators). Mail to the special forum (probably Google groups rather than Yahoogroups but that is not a big factor).  Let the mail go the gmail account, and it can also forward back to my own inbox, or go directly from the forum.

Go online into gmail, with Linkman open, run down the emails and assign the keywords (often the subject line) in Linkman. For automation in setup consider a macro but not a big issue.

You also end up with a google search that is probably comparable to Eudora search. Place all the emails sent (or received, gmail forwards nicely) from/to the forum in their own Eudora email box for redundancy and for whichever searches better for a specific need.  (Eudora might be better for composing anew, that is improving and replacing.)

I know a lot of this might seem odd, however I do think this will help me a lot. Especially since I want to make the urls available to a research collaborator or two.

Steven
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Hi,

I tried Google Groups. The mail goes to the receiver fine, identical to Yahoogroups.  Then the big issue is the archiving. Where it is better than Yahoogroups, but it converts the embedded .jpg to an attachment .jpg.  So the result is very different, especially if you have 3 or 4 pics in an email.  (You do not end up with one readable letter in the same format as people who receive the email). I will consider whether it might make sense anyway.

Hmm.. the pic does show up properly within a gmail account.  If the gmail account allows direct links to an email that would do the job.  This could apply to any web-based email that receives properly. However, I have never heard of that feature.

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Evernote: I know that Evernote makes it easy to mail an email to your note, a very nice feature.  However the setting tags is not as versatile as an email forum, where you can simply bookmark a url into Linkman and have tags integrated with your web url info on the same topic. (I did not explain that earlier.) In Evernote any time you want to access the info you would have to go into the program environment and taggify. It is probably worth a trial to see the comfort level, overall it may be a fine way to approach the issue of research-organization, even if different from my initial idea.

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Are there any email systems that give each email a disk file ?  (I would only use it for this research project, not multi-thousands of emails).  If so, the individual emails could be dragged-and-dropped into Linkman and that would work pretty good. This is a different idea, trying to do everything locally through email.   I could try this manually in Eudora, although it is a bit of a kludge.  Receive the emails into singular folders.  However none of this will work unless the email program knows how to take parameters, from a path, in a special way that directly brings up that folder.  That is asking a lot.  It might be an interesting project for a Bat! type.

Note: then I tried Gmail -- above.  That is more hopeful for this, since it already is url based, if they would just have a "one-email one-url" feature. 

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And I could pose the question to the various WebArchive programs. Can they receive information and go from INPUT email ---> OUTPUT disk file. (Probably not, since they want to work in their native format, not thrashing hundreds of disk files.)

Steven
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