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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 19, 2020, 02:27 PM »

The problem with that is the internal linking.  It's almost like this can all be solved with yet a 3rd tool loll..
the third tool will be a database tools with the sole function of keeping track of the links and ID/titles in the zettel files.

-superboyac (June 19, 2020, 01:36 PM)

From my perspective, Obsidian does this well. Not a database as such, but fast enough for all the processes. Obviously if you get hundreds of thousands of files, a database may be the best answer.
Doesn’t have block/bullet links,  but does have links to headings,  documents, files etc. More specific solutions are possible,  if you really need them but its not straightforward.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 18, 2020, 05:54 PM »

I agree with you I would like that ID hidden.  I don't know a way around it. 

-superboyac (June 18, 2020, 05:25 PM)

Edit the markdown file so that the ID is commented out or put into front matter. Though that doesn't help if you review the files in edit mode.

Maybe zettlr will ignore anything hidden,  but I doubt it.

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General Software Discussion / Re: any software can do a batch S&R "multi strings" in "multi files" at a time?

« Last post by Dormouse on June 18, 2020, 04:25 PM »

My issue is that time is money. And since I wouldn't know what I was doing, less intuitive solutions could be more costly even if they are much cheaper.
And time is even more of an issue since I have to restrict my time using a PC.

Shifting to a file/document based system from databases,  means I need confidence that I can quickly do everything I need  - and I have a lot of text files. And being able to read all the document formats is important.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 18, 2020, 04:12 PM »

What do you mean the ID is hidden?

-superboyac (June 18, 2020, 03:40 PM)

I don't mean it is hidden; I don't know zettlr.
What I mean is that it can be entered in a markdown note in such a way that it isn't rendered. It can be hidden as a comment,  or in YAML front matter etc.
This gives you all the advantages of using the ID without ever having to see it unless you are in the markdown edit mode.

afaics,  this solution doesn't seem to be commonly applied. But to my mind it solves most of the problems.
I dislike having the ID in the title. It is too distracting unless the title is always hidden, but that can't be the case if you work directly with the files.

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General Software Discussion / Re: any software can do a batch S&R "multi strings" in "multi files" at a time?

« Last post by Dormouse on June 18, 2020, 01:45 PM »

PowerGREP is the king of this.  However, it demands a King's ransom.  That said, the $159 is cheap if you need that power.  Add that to regexbuddy and your search for things is pretty powerful.

-wraith808 (June 18, 2020, 10:30 AM)

I keep telling myself that PowerGREP would be total overkill for anything I might want to do. It's blatantly obvious,  I shouldn't have to tell myself even once.
But,
It also strikes me that having it would mean I'd never have to think about the best way of doing a lot of things. And not having to think can be quite valuable.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 18, 2020, 01:28 PM »

on a really specific/technical level, the key thing for me is that ID/title issue in zettlr.  Whatever the clever solution to that is, that's going to take things to the next level.

-superboyac (June 18, 2020, 10:53 AM)

For me,  the solution is the ID being hidden. That means it's in the edit view but not the preview (or the WYSIWYG). All programs should be able to deal with that.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 18, 2020, 12:57 PM »

But using Obsidian just to keep track of the thoughts and as a reference to my writing in another process seems to be working better.

-wraith808 (June 18, 2020, 10:26 AM)

I've not fully developed my process  - Obsidian's developing too fast to fix myself  - but I expect to do something like this. Some will have to involve Android,  so I look forward to their Android app. But the rest of the writing will work well in WriteMonkey. Effectively files shared between it and Obsidian (and whatever I use on Android). And gives my documents an extra backup in the WriteMonkey database.

It feels as if that gives me the full MSS, with as many sections as I want, in a single piece as well as multiple links to other stuff, notes etc.

Might also use Typora or Vivaldi for my Windows WYSIWYG in notes using a lot of markup. WriteMonkey's preview is through export.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 17, 2020, 05:10 PM »

Step 1 is going to the inbox
Step 2 is thinking about where it should be once it's in the inbox

I can't get from step 1 to step 2 in most cases.  If I just do it without thinking about it, I get little idiosyncracies in how they're categorized.  So my notes never get from the inbox to the archive referenced.

-wraith808 (June 17, 2020, 03:02 PM)

If we forget the formal zettelkasten method which is predicated on the notes eventually being published, then my current system makes it very easy to do in one pass. Using tags rather than folders or equivalent.

• If it's something not ever worth seeing again,  it goes to the Attics (possibly I'll note why it's worthless).
• If it's not worth spending more time on,  it goes to the Archive, usually with a few more tags.
• If I make a note,  it goes to the Library. Note into the Scriptorium; I'll add links if I can think of them, but don't get hung upon it.

I don't spend time going through them trying to find ways of extending the notes. I only go through them when there's another purpose in mind. But if I have a new thought I add a new note - and the link will be obvious.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 16, 2020, 08:32 PM »

Reference database, I don't think I need this.

-superboyac (June 16, 2020, 07:34 PM)

Nice to have you back 
What you say makes sense,  and it's all about what makes sense for you,  but I'd query this.
The reference database isn't a set of unlinked reference sources - the notes in the zettelkasten should take you to, or include directly, the precise part of the reference material that is relevant. And the process of searching references should lead to more thoughts that go in the mix. If a worthwhile thought is made,  it should be noted. The references themselves aren't really part of the zettelkasten, but there is a set of fixed relationships with it, rather like a label sewn into an item of clothing.

Now,  I'm not advocating you do this,  but it is the zettelkasten system.

I'm still faffing around with techniques and programs, so I'm still nowhere really,  although I feel subjectively that I have got a long way.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 16, 2020, 05:25 PM »

Warning - I haven't tried this, and MBAM blocks the site as a Trojan. 

-rjbull (June 16, 2020, 04:29 PM)

I wondered whether Info Select needed cloning,  and then noticed the .ch.
After your MBAM warning,  I decided not to visit the site.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 16, 2020, 03:15 PM »

People are trying.  The creator is resisting.

-wraith808 (June 14, 2020, 02:45 PM)

I'd like to think it will evolve if the more important players move in the same direction. The overall cost of maintenance pushes them in that direction, although everyone is always wanting extras so a system to agree on those is what's needed.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 16, 2020, 03:11 PM »

GeistMap is a personal knowledge network for taking notes and mapping concepts:

-panzer (June 15, 2020, 04:02 PM)

this seems quite interesting, but I'm not sure about the traction

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 16, 2020, 03:09 PM »

Re: markdown standardization. StackOverflow

-Nod5 (June 16, 2020, 01:54 PM)

I notice that they also said

Things like spoilers, MathJax, circuit diagrams, stack snippets, etc. are used on several network sites. We're going to continue to support all of those custom syntax elements even if they're not part of the official CommonMark specification.

So standardisation, but only up to a point.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 16, 2020, 01:38 PM »

And another one

But I think I've passed my trying things limit for the moment.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 14, 2020, 12:36 PM »

I think double bracket links are spreading though.
I agree with most of what you say, though ripgrep and AHK are likely to be beyond me.
I can stick with Obsidian for now and see where it goes. Likely to be around a while I think. It's already pretty polished given it's only 3 months in, and developers have a good record with Dynalist.

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 14, 2020, 12:29 PM »

One thing I hope for is standardization of some of the newer features. Like double bracket style links, timestamps as references and automatic backlinking, autocompletion and highlighting tailored for note taking, and more. A superset of CommonMark with features for working with information in large sets of interrelated plaintext files.

-Nod5 (June 14, 2020, 06:17 AM)

Standardisation in markdown? 

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 14, 2020, 02:49 AM »

If only brains actually worked like that

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 13, 2020, 04:22 PM »

I've noticed Conaw retweeting a post liking iOS after switching from Android and saying they'll never switch back. That tells me that Android users will always be second class in Roam. Firms my decision not to try it.

He always seems to find ways to put people off. I'm not aware that he has ever managed a team before,  so it will be interesting to see how he manages. 

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 12, 2020, 05:34 PM »

How I GTD in Roam Research:
http://vincelutton.c...td-in-roam-research/

-panzer (June 12, 2020, 04:59 PM)

That's impressive!
And a good demonstration of what it can do.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Vivaldi, the new Web browser for power users

« Last post by Dormouse on June 12, 2020, 05:25 PM »

Will be my default. The Notes editor on Windows is a pretty good WYSIWYG markdown editor. Simple but sufficient.

I'm not sure why I hadn't picked up on it before. It was installed on all my devices, though rather down the list in terms of frequency of use.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Good Freeware Audio Editor?

« Last post by Dormouse on June 12, 2020, 05:23 PM »

if you wanna go a bit more powerful (a lot more) then you could also try Reaper (they have a free version).

-Stephen66515 (June 12, 2020, 05:18 PM)

I'm not sure you have quite captured the scale of the difference!
 

(but Reaper really is very good)

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 12, 2020, 03:47 PM »

I've decided not to bother with a trial after watching a few videos. I knew quite a bit before,  but that clinched it.

It's effectively an outliner on research steroids. I've never been a great user of workflowy type outliners- rather like my aversion to wikis. Just a personal bias. Also saw that access from a mobile browser is limited. I  like documents I can do anything with and I'm happy with them being short. Which brings me back to Obsidian again.

What I would say in Roam's favour is that I recognise how easy it makes it for people to just write whatever is in their minds. I'm not in a position to judge the value of that productivity, but can see why so many describe it as unlocking their ability to write. It removes the writer's block that afflicts so many.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Vivaldi, the new Web browser for power users

« Last post by Dormouse on June 12, 2020, 10:53 AM »

Definitely liking Vivaldi so far.  Forces web pages into dark mode (toggle). Notes - though took a bit of fiddling to get the selected text notes to save. Might become my default.

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General Software Discussion / Re: Vivaldi, the new Web browser for power users

« Last post by Dormouse on June 12, 2020, 04:48 AM »

Hadn't noticed this.
Looks useful.
Works on Android too

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General Software Discussion / Re: I'm thinking of going primitive, with discursion into zettelkasten

« Last post by Dormouse on June 12, 2020, 04:03 AM »

And seems they raised more money in the first two days of the five year subscription than they earned or raised in their first two years.