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Living Room / Re: Recommend some music videos to me!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 08, 2014, 02:19 PM »
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Living Room / Re: usa job stats
« Last post by wraith808 on March 08, 2014, 12:34 PM »
Have you searched on a search engine?  You might also look at the Jobs site.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 08, 2014, 11:04 AM »
If "check for news and product updates" is enabled it "phones home" to check that once a week (or whatever your setting says).
You can disable it if you want to.

Right.  I don't call that "phoning home".  I call that "checking for news and product updates".  Especially since you can easily disable it.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 07, 2014, 07:27 PM »
In general, if they have de-registration and such, I agree.  DO is actually pretty easy to move and I've done it several times.  It doesn't deal with machine footprints and calling home, which is the part I hate.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 07, 2014, 12:23 PM »
Also, if you can't compare a file manager to other file managers, what is the point then?

You *can* compare a file manager to other file managers.  It's just that comparing them *only* based on price is faulty reasoning, IMO.  If I compare a Fiat to a Lamborghini based only on price, the Fiat is going to win all the time.  Not saying that the difference between the software is that extreme- just stating that for an analogy.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 07, 2014, 09:52 AM »
An interesting comparison, but are all these prices in the same currency?  I know that DOpus's prices are in Australian dollars, but I don't know about the others.  For an accurate comparison, they should all be in (or converted to) the same currency.

Agreed.  And I really don't think you can compare one SW package to another solely on pricing- the benefit for you really weighs into the decision to buy at any price for a lot of people.
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Community Giveaways / Re: Scrivener at 50% off
« Last post by wraith808 on March 06, 2014, 04:33 PM »
"I took it, but gave it back smiley"

Now THIS is interesting stuff!

Would you condescend to comment?


Interesting... how?  And what comment are you looking for?  On the product, or on the statement?

Urlwolf had expressed interest in the code, so I marked the giveaway as closed- but then he stated he didn't want to use it so 'gave it back'.  Not really sure from the 'condescend' (patronize?) in the statement towards what you wanted comments. 

It appears that English might not be your native language, so there might just be a misunderstanding of your phrasing?
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"Auto filters on folders?  That's just plain cool."

Of course it is, but then, again, this automatic filtering of files should be accessible from within your main application, automatically presenting you a dataset reflecting what you're doing in your real work environment: Any file commander is just INTERFERING, badly or slightly, but interfering, with that "natural workflow" which in most cases, today, has NOT yet been realized for most people.

As the writer of that particular statement, I must disagree with your assessment- and if you'd *read* the feature, you'd see it's a lot more than just filtering.

When browsing source, there are several file types for my particular case, i.e. for c# .xaml, .xaml.cs, .cs, and more- to have those clearly outlined and coloured (which is part of the autofilters) is pretty useful.  Same when differentiating between source and css or source and images, etc.  The filters go beyond the mere not showing to labeling and colours.  It also allows grouping of filetypes based on rules, i.e. the .xaml with the .xaml.cs.  So your estimation of the usefulness is based on your opinion- which is quite valid for you, but not valid for everyone else.  Which is exactly what I say at the end of the iteration of those features, i.e. each person should evaluate the benefits rather than just the feature list.  Which is also the reason that I am still in the evaluation mode, rather than just being a 'fanboy' and purchasing.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 06, 2014, 02:05 PM »
Well, you don't have to make it a policy that is published. But if a user contacts you and inquires about it, I would be more in the mindset of "keep them happy" and provide the upgrade only upon request if you are < 1 year in.

Yeah... I agree it would be nice. But it's up to the developer.  But on the other hand, not to do it because you don't think it would be met with a good reply and not let them know about it...? 

I'd do it anyway, personally.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 06, 2014, 12:41 PM »
I really don't feel that, in my case, the "three year payment" holds water. I purchased this product 10 months ago. I only received two update notifications from the program stating that an update was available. Now, less than a year later, I am being told I have to pay again to move to the current version, and oh by the way the cost is just above half of what I paid originally. 

And yes, I saw the comparison about MS office. The difference there is, I have received 7 licenses to Office (2007-2013) that have cost me LESS than a single license of DOpus. Just because "retail" is expensive, doesn't mean there aren't promotions and/or other ways to obtain office in a legitimate fashion.

That said, I am not trying to be negative. In my case, however, I feel a tad upset about being asked to pay for a product I just paid for 10 months ago. I DID NOT receive the number of updates being mentioned here. I purchased the product in a state where those updates had already occurred.

I think that goes towards another discussion that I posted- the version vs. time-limited license.  In this case, a time limited (1 year of updates) would have been better for you.  I think that as a developer, in some cases, you just can't win.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 06, 2014, 08:21 AM »
That's the two PCs and a laptop deal. (The single licence is one PC and a laptop.) The upgrade price for "ordinary" customers on that deal is AUS$74. I paid AUS$71 for the previous version on 30th April 2011. So it works out at about AUS$8 per PC per year. My how extortionate!
-michaelkenward (March 06, 2014, 04:31 AM)

I think we've gotten away from that, so if we could, could I use 40's more articulate plea on that regard?  Try not to offend, nor be offended?  Snark has it's place... but I don't personally think here.  And this is from someone who agrees with you (and has all along)


Yes, but those are features, not benefits. It's a traditional marketing pitfall to present the customer with features but not explain the benefits of those features, which is what I'd need to understand better to make the purchase decision. I was just hoping maybe someone here who understands the product more can articulate those a bit further.

If I had windows 8, the killer benefit to me would be the SkyDrive support.  That's one of the slickest things about windows 8 from the short time I had my tablet.

Without that, there's a couple of other benefits that appeal to me (a semi-casual user):

File Display Toolbars
Streamlined Copy Progress Display - might make it so I don't have to use teracopy, I have to try it.
Breadcrumbs, Status Bar, and FAYT changes - these address some of my major complaints.  Especially the FAYT part, as I had to use wildcards before.
Folder Tree Changes - especially remembering the root branches.  Another major complaint of mine.
File and Folder Labels Improvements - Auto filters on folders?  That's just plain cool.

But I think that when you start to break it down not in terms of benefits instead of features, it's going to be a personal experience (and I think that is the best way to break it down), which is why I'm leaning towards jumping from 9 to 11... 10 didn't have anything that personally appealed to me, but 11 does.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 05:42 PM »
And that's why I apologised straight away - not just that I hadn't checked the details - but that I realised I had said it in such an obnoxious way that it was pretty unreasonable, and understandable if it got a knee-jerk response.

I just want to say also Tomos, thanks for that.  It's not about doing things or offending or making mistakes- we all do that.  It's what happens after that's important.  And I appreciate that.

:Thmbsup:
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 04:40 PM »
We aren't really upset or anything, but please look at it from our point of view - we get an email from DonationCoder saying "hey, can we have a discount please!", so we come to DonationCoder to see what people are saying, and find a thread where mostly what they're saying is what horribly nasty thieves we are.

With all due respect, when I look at the entire thread, there was one person who took issue with the upgrade window (as he understood it), one person agreeing that (if that were in fact true) it left a bad taste, and a few others commenting it seemed a somewhat expensive upgrade.

I'd hardly characterize that as anybody calling anyone a horribly nasty thief. Or that the thread was hostile or derogatory towards DO.

Apparently there are differences in individual perception. So be it. It happens.

So I'd like to suggest, going forward, thicker skins and softer words. And as Cliff Stoll so aptly suggested, many years ago, when online discussion forums were just starting to take off:

   Lets:

     1) Try not to offend.

     2) Try not to be so easily offended.
 (see attachment in previous post) Pax!  :)

Some of the posts that he was referring to have been since edited.  There was a bit of inflammatory phrasing.  Which sort of falls under the try not to offend portion.  And was all that I was asking for- a stance where we can state our opinions without offending.  But apparently that was taken wrong, and people were offended by the suggestion.
* wraith808 shrugs
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 04:37 PM »
Right... but I bought a two machine license.

Ah, so it's a bit like Windows, which you can install on up to five machines? (assuming you buy five licenses of course)

;D


No.  If you read the post above, you see that for my two licenses, I get three machines.  So not quite.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 04:04 PM »
SlickEdit is still better in the sense that the user can use it on multiple computer.
When I bought DOpus 8, I bought a dual license so that I could use DOpus on two computers (probably my laptop and my desktop).  When I upgraded to version 9, I was pleased to see that the single-user license now covered a laptop in addition to the desktop, so I was able to save some money.  This policy continued in version 10 and, I hope and assume, in version 11 as well (I haven't yet upgraded).  Here's a statement of the policy in the User's Manual for version 10:  The standard license is a single-installation license which allows the installation of the SOFTWARE on one physical machine only, for exclusive use on that machine only, plus one personal laptop owned by and in exclusive use by the registered purchaser.

It's still the same- I quoted the relevant version from the pricing page above.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 03:35 PM »
I'm still on 9.  I love DO.  I just can't justify the price that often.  It was the same with SlickEdit.
SlickEdit is still better in the sense that the user can use it on multiple computer.

You can do the same with DO.  I do currently.
http://www.gpsoft.co....au/order_intro.html

Directory Opus is licenced on a per-machine basis.

Right... but I bought a two machine license.  And I always renew on that basis.  So its actually three machines since they give you a free laptop one with your original.  Just for reference:

Directory Opus Pro Single - Single machine licence plus one personal laptop
Directory Opus Pro Dual - Two machine licence plus one personal laptop
Directory Opus Pro Five - Five machine licence plus one personal laptop
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 01:20 PM »
It's not about payola.  It's about realizing that one hasty word can make those conversations a lot more difficult, so we need to be cautious about realizing that there are definitely ramifications about saying things that may or may not be true.  And it's not about being bought and paid for- we still tell the truth.  I told nothing but the unmitigated truth in my reviews for some of these things- but I was also diplomatic about the use of words that are inflammatory and packed with emotion.  Especially in regards to things that may have had me hot under the collar for my experiences.  Taking consideration of what you say and the ramifications thereof should *always* be a consideration when posting IMO.  Would you say it to the person in person?  Or would you perhaps ask or say things in a different way.  Then your posting on a board should take the same thing into account.  Respect and consideration are the key- not changing what you say, just how you say it.

First, it's not censorship.  It was an admonishment from *me* from *my experiences*.  As I have no way to enforce or say anything as a policy, it's not censorship.  No one said to do anything other than to take it into account.  Whatever you want to do, it's on you.

Second, there is no 'buying silence'.  There was apparently something said that was incorrect.  I didn't rebut it, because I don't know.  But I offered him the ability to come here and do it, or to let me know what was incorrect so I could post it.  How is that buying silence?  And I have no intent of going back to him with any changes or anything to say- "see?  We've fixed it. Now can we have a discount?"  That's not what I was saying at all, nor what was meant.  It's decently insulting to say so, also... so I'm going to back off of this with one last statement.

A lot of us haven't had anything to do with fostering these relationships behind the scenes, nor do we realize how hard it is.  I didn't fully appreciate the efforts of cthorpe in that regard until I started dealing with them.  To walk that line of building a relationship with developers based on mutual benefit without compromising DC is something that is quite difficult.  And many developers already don't want to give specialized discounts nor work with sites.  And it's a lot of work.  It's easy to talk about it, and hard to do it.  I just want to thank the people who have taken this role in the past.  And wish the best to anyone who takes it in the future.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 11:22 AM »
Still sounds like a threat - and just a little bit 'convenient' to me.

It would be convenient, IMO, if they had approached us.  I approached him at the urging of the members.  And apparently the whole time he'd been following the thread- I didn't point him to it.  And he hasn't revoked our other discount.  So I don't see a threat implied nor explicit personally.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 11:21 AM »
I'm still on 9.  I love DO.  I just can't justify the price that often.  It was the same with SlickEdit.
SlickEdit is still better in the sense that the user can use it on multiple computer.

You can do the same with DO.  I do currently.
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 05, 2014, 08:15 AM »
Well, remember when I told you about the manner in which people say things is important to our relationship with developers?  I don't think we'll be getting a discount.  I received this response:

We are not very impressed as hard working developers when we see stuff like this on DC…. :(
 
Does not give us a warm feeling towards you when this kind of untruths and garbage is published without moderation or correction.


"they have a sickening habit of reducing the upgrade discount after a short period of time.  It's currently roughly a 45% reduction - last upgrade, that went down to a 10% reduction within a couple of months"

My response was that he was free to post a correction- I'm not sure of the specifics, so I can't post a rebuttal- but told him that he was free to do so, and asked what was incorrect about the statement.  But please be careful and responsible in your posting- as always, your opinions are your opinions, but they do affect our relationship with developers, and our ability to get discounts.  I didn't know that before I started doing the stuff with discounts... but I've seen it in operation.  

And besides that, I do understand his sentiment if this is not true and was posted.  Any actual anecdotal information to back this up one way or the other?  I didn't think it strange because many companies do reduce their discount over time- as a reward to the ones that purchase earlier.  I probably wouldn't have used 'sickening' for that reason- but that's just my opinion.
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Mouser, you should go the way that I'm going... The Elio.  Not out until next year, but that's definitely what I'm getting for my commute car.

Surely you don't really need four wheels, do you?
 
-cranioscopical (March 04, 2014, 02:04 PM)

Apparently not :P
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General Software Discussion / Re: Directory Opus 11 Released!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 04, 2014, 01:32 PM »
I'm still on 9.  I love DO.  I just can't justify the price that often.  It was the same with SlickEdit.
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Living Room / Re: Netflix Mocks Amazon's Drone Delivery with Video!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 03, 2014, 03:53 PM »
Oh, I meant the guy at cad-comic.com.  It's mostly about the gaming industry, but he does mix it up with tangential stuff.


... but, yeah, Ren too :)
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Living Room / Re: Netflix Mocks Amazon's Drone Delivery with Video!
« Last post by wraith808 on March 03, 2014, 12:19 PM »
He does have some real zingers sometimes :)
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